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On October 21 2020 10:07 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2020 09:36 Doodsmack wrote:On October 21 2020 09:26 Mohdoo wrote:On October 21 2020 09:13 Doodsmack wrote:
I can almost guarantee you the liberal media will not be covering the story. Just look at how quick they were to circle the wagons. CNN and NYT basically snorted Clinton email stories every single day. Which they now deeply regret, and thats the reason they won't cover it. They shudder to think of a second trump win. Why would that be? Trump has upped media consumption a bunch. Is it really your belief that all media save for briebart and maybe fox are so against Trump that they collude to keep stories about him hidden? Is there a cabal or do they all do this independently?
I could absolutely see that being the case, to some degree anyway.
The media has an important role sure, it’s still a profession like any other. We’ve seen science publications come out with unprecedented political op eds as a response to interjections into their domain,
Wouldn’t surprise me at all, we’re all humans. If you’re journalist x at y publication and it’s been 4 years of ‘fake news’, some of your colleagues have been personally attacked and the office environment hates his politics by and large. Some source slips you 100% verifiable info that exonerates Trump on something.
Some people for professional integrity or ambition will absolutely push that story, I could see many people not though.
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CBS is now reporting the same thing as fox actually.
Looks like a pattern is emerging.
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The report that Hunter worked for a company 3 years before Biden did something for them... and mentions how that company is a huge one in Delaware...
Also how hunter didn't lobby for the company is also in the article.
This seems like a pretty big flop my friend
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I'm sure hunter was hired for his expertise and not his connection to a certain person, and that he never delivered on that connection. Actually no, I'm not that naive.
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hows that hunter biden story even remotely relevant in relation to the trump family escapades.
trumps the biggest loser in history and you're defending him because you don't want to admit you're wrong on this one?
The bad thing is, trump makes everyone a loser.
Corona virus victims, 51% of the US population (women), non white and not old men (toxic masculinity, suicide rates), the environment (land, sea, mountain), soldiers, the immigration system that boosts this country to its max, the tax system favouring the rich, fostering inequality like it's his favourite child.
Man it's like watching Brexit on steroids.
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On October 21 2020 12:23 IyMoon wrote:The report that Hunter worked for a company 3 years before Biden did something for them... and mentions how that company is a huge one in Delaware... Also how hunter didn't lobby for the company is also in the article. This seems like a pretty big flop my friend
I'd also make someone give my kid work for 3 years at a specified rate of $100k a year before acting in their interest in my legislative capacity, if I had the position, morals, and desire wield that power.
I'd like to remind people in this thread that all the alleged acts of corruption by Trump doesn't mean you can't fault Biden for engaging in corruption through his family and friends.
Biden is a career politician.
He was Senate for longer than half this thread has been alive on this earth.
He was a legislator during the time laws were written that gave the rich ways to reduce their tax burden legally, and championed drug crime bills that created much of the incarceration problem in this country. Maybe he's still better than Trump for Trump's variety of faults, but it shouldn't elevate Biden simply on the winds of left-wing partisanship/tribalism.
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The very sequence of events happening now in US politics is so similar to 2016. It's like we are watching a replay of a tournament, 4 years later. I won't be surprised if Trump gets reelected again with even higher vote share than last time , considering how divided the public discord has gotten in last few years. (just a perspective of a guy who is watching US politics from outside US)
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Nah. You can view it in this thread. For all that you can say that many of the conservative posters got banned, just as many have packed it in and given up on defending Trump. Nettles drops by to unload a conspiracy or cherry-picked poll every once in a while, but it's just doodsmack and danglars even trying now. The only non-conservative giving the hunter biden stuff even the most minimal lip service is GH.
Biden's baggage is way less than Hillary's, his lead has been very consistent and steady (unlike Hillary), and the angle of attack chosen here is the dumbest possible choice (nepotism).
The massive over reaching going on with the Hunter stuff is just hilarious (the Hunter email story moved the polls literally not at all. No one is buying it, not even the dumbest members of the american public), considering Trump was so easily bribed for Ivanka's clothing lines in china, or any one of a thousand other examples.
There is NOTHING you could find on Biden that would make him worse than Trump on that issue.
Here's the thing. Biden is accused of letting his unqualified son set up back channel connections for him. Trump LITERALLY is employing, right now, several totally unqualified members of his family as WH STAFF, including ones who LIED on their applications for clearance.
Proof on the polls thing :
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The Trump campaign has also blown through a billion dollars somehow, and have almost no cash on hand.
Oh, and Frank Luntz (famous GOP pollster who came up with the name "Death Tax" for estate tax) also thinks this is the worst campaign he's ever seen.
“It is the worst campaign I’ve ever seen and I’ve been watching them since 1980. They’re on the wrong issues. They’re on the wrong message. They’ve got their heads up their asses,” he said, adding, “Your damn job is to get your candidate to talk about things that are relevant to the people you need to reach. And if you can’t do your damn job then get out.”
Luntz argued that “nobody cares about Hunter Biden,” who is currently at the center of a controversy over contents on his laptop, noting, “Hunter Biden does not help put food on the table. Hunter Biden does not help anyone get a job. Hunter Biden does not provide health care or solve COVID. And Donald Trump spends all of his time focused on that and nobody cares.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/521868-gop-pollster-luntz-blasts-trump-campaign-as-worst-hes-ever-seen
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Can't believe i'm with Danglars on that one.
Though i'd argue that he's not "maybe" better, he definitely is. There's "being a career politician" (with all that this encloses, none of which positive), and then there's just being an opportunist criminal.
Speaking of..
and championed drug crime bills that created much of the incarceration problem in this country
This is thorough bullshit.
This also leaves out the fact that republicans called for even harsher measures.
Crime control: Republicans opposed much of the social spending and gun control provisions in the Democratic crime bill that passed by narrow margins earlier this year. Starting in January, they plan to amend it with the so-called Taking Back Our Streets Act, an anti-crime package that would add new mandatory minimum sentences, toughen the death penalty provisions and put more money into prison construction by stripping funds for crime prevention programs, like midnight basketball leagues.
I mean.. Sure. We can go with "biden made everyone go behind bars" - but then we'll also go with "but republicans would've killed them". Not that either statement is even remotely factually, but if we're just repeating right-wing nonsense, might as well add to it.
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On October 21 2020 13:24 Nevuk wrote:The Trump campaign has also blown through a billion dollars somehow, and have almost no cash on hand. https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1318694078914170881Oh, and Frank Luntz (famous GOP pollster who came up with the name "Death Tax" for estate tax) also thinks this is the worst campaign he's ever seen.
It amuses me how a campaign can just burn 1 billion dollars on just an election campaign.
There are very less chances of trump winning if the polls you posted are remotely correct. I was just stating my perspective based on the surge of support that trump garnered in last few days of 2016. he did multiple rallies with big crowd at the end of election cycle and he is doing same thing this year and from the politics i have seen in my life, the candidate which has better ground game always wins
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On October 21 2020 13:38 Batmankills wrote:It amuses me how a campaign can just burn 1 billion dollars on just an election campaign. There are very less chances of trump winning if the polls you posted are remotely correct. I was just stating my perspective based on the surge of support that trump garnered in last few days of 2016. he did multiple rallies with big crowd at the end of election cycle and he is doing same thing this year and from the politics i have seen in my life, the candidate which has better ground game always wins
He always has big crowds. His fan base loves him and they are super motivated.
The issue is in order to keep that fan base happy hes pissed off the rest of the country and its (probably) not a winning plan
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It's the digital age. If a story like it hasn't been verified within 24 hours, it never will be. It's been almost a week now.
The only thing that could be verified by a reputable news org (Fox News in this case) was just a single one of the emails. Based on how hilariously fucking lazy and contrived this whole thing is, I wouldn't be surprised if every last one of the others was faked.
Also, NYT is reporting Trump has a chinese bank account and paid 180$k in taxes while paying almost nothing to the US.
So yes, there's just going to be more evidence of hypocrisy and corruption coming out about him now.
An analysis of Trump's tax records by the Times shows that the President holds a previously unreported bank account in China that was not included on his public financial disclosures because it is held under a corporate name. Trump also maintains bank accounts in Britain and Ireland.
The Chinese account, the newspaper said, is controlled by Trump International Hotels Management and it paid $188,561 in taxes in the country from 2013 to 2015.
While the tax records don't show how much money has moved through Trump's foreign accounts, the Internal Revenue Service mandates that filers disclose the portions of their incomes coming from foreign countries. Trump International Hotels Management reported only a few thousand dollars from China.
Trump Organization lawyer Alan Garten, who refused to name the Chinese bank that holds the account, told the Times in a statement that the Trump Organization "opened an account with a Chinese bank having offices in the United States in order to pay the local taxes" tied with its push to do business in the country.
Garten specifically said the company had opened the account once an office was opened in China "to explore the potential for hotel deals in Asia."
"No deals, transactions or other business activities ever materialized and, since 2015, the office has remained inactive," he told the newspaper. "Though the bank account remains open, it has never been used for any other purpose."
While Trump has sought to paint Biden as weak on China throughout the general election, his own financial ties to the country stand in stark contrast with the former vice president, whose income tax returns and financial disclosures show no business dealings or income from China.
The President's tax records show he has invested at least $192,000 in five companies established to pursue projects in China over multiple years, according to the Times.
Since 2010, the companies have claimed at least $97,400 in expenses, the newspaper said.
The new details gleaned from Trump's tax records build on a previous New York Times report that detailed how the President paid no federal income taxes whatsoever in 10 out of 15 years beginning in 2000 because he reported losing significantly more than he made.
In both the year he won the presidency and his first year in the White House, Trump paid just $750 in federal income taxes, the Times reported.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/20/politics/trump-china-taxes-financial-records/index.html
Original NYT article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/20/us/trump-taxes-china.html?smid=tw-share
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I would actually be surprised if Biden never met any of his son's associates. That's the price of nepotism.
Doodsmack, doesn't it make your blood boil that a billionaire only paid $750 in taxes for several years? I know it does mine.
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Just as an amusing aside,here's a Twitch stream of AOC playing Among Us and talking politics.
+ Show Spoiler +
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On October 21 2020 13:38 Batmankills wrote:It amuses me how a campaign can just burn 1 billion dollars on just an election campaign.
Seeing those numbers, i wonder how a campaign that just spend that money on something useful instead would fare. Like, a candidate simply saying "I got this money for my campaign, but i am going to use it to feed homeless people. Or build a particle accelerator. Or pay for poor peoples college tuition."
Would such a person have a chance to get elected?
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On October 21 2020 13:00 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2020 12:23 IyMoon wrote:The report that Hunter worked for a company 3 years before Biden did something for them... and mentions how that company is a huge one in Delaware... Also how hunter didn't lobby for the company is also in the article. This seems like a pretty big flop my friend I'd also make someone give my kid work for 3 years at a specified rate of $100k a year before acting in their interest in my legislative capacity, if I had the position, morals, and desire wield that power. I'd like to remind people in this thread that all the alleged acts of corruption by Trump doesn't mean you can't fault Biden for engaging in corruption through his family and friends. Biden is a career politician. He was Senate for longer than half this thread has been alive on this earth. He was a legislator during the time laws were written that gave the rich ways to reduce their tax burden legally, and championed drug crime bills that created much of the incarceration problem in this country. Maybe he's still better than Trump for Trump's variety of faults, but it shouldn't elevate Biden simply on the winds of left-wing partisanship/tribalism.
I'm pretty confident in saying that no one here likes Biden.
In fact, the majority of us have told you that explicitly.
Unfortunately, we lost in the primary and he's all that we have left to get rid of someone that is objectively the worst president in living memory (and probably in the history of the country).
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Even if Trump isnt the worst (some of the bad early ones seem to have been WAY more effectual with their wretched awfulness) hes almost assuredly the dumbest.
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On October 21 2020 20:45 Simberto wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2020 13:38 Batmankills wrote:On October 21 2020 13:24 Nevuk wrote:The Trump campaign has also blown through a billion dollars somehow, and have almost no cash on hand. https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1318694078914170881Oh, and Frank Luntz (famous GOP pollster who came up with the name "Death Tax" for estate tax) also thinks this is the worst campaign he's ever seen. It amuses me how a campaign can just burn 1 billion dollars on just an election campaign. Seeing those numbers, i wonder how a campaign that just spend that money on something useful instead would fare. Like, a candidate simply saying "I got this money for my campaign, but i am going to use it to feed homeless people. Or build a particle accelerator. Or pay for poor peoples college tuition." Would such a person have a chance to get elected?
Wouldn't such a person be sued by their donors for misusing the campaign funds?
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On October 21 2020 17:34 EnDeR_ wrote:
I would actually be surprised if Biden never met any of his son's associates. That's the price of nepotism.
Doodsmack, doesn't it make your blood boil that a billionaire only paid $750 in taxes for several years? I know it does mine.
I'm 90% sure that the new and improved doodsmack doesn't care about any of Trump's misdeeds.
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