EPTUnless you mean that there's barely anyone voting for biden but that theyre voting against trump.
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Erasme
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Unless you mean that there's barely anyone voting for biden but that theyre voting against trump. | ||
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Danglars
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NewSunshine
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JimmiC
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Fleetfeet
Canada2837 Posts
On October 10 2020 04:24 Danglars wrote: Anybody detached enough from the partisan fight to give Bart and Durham praise for rejecting a report release prior to the election? Stand up and be counted, since I expect y’all would have particular venom if a spying report had been released in the next couple weeks from the DoJ. I find it surprising, but I have no idea what they're releasing and don't really know what republican goals are atm. I read it as not playing that card to win this election, but saving it to try leverage for the next. As I would with either side, I don't assume it's coming from the goodness of their hearts. RE: Propaganda - Flags are propaganda in the same way that cake is food. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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That's all I really hope for. I'd expect someone to mention a more fair tax system going forward as well, but that's a bit of a reach. | ||
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StasisField
United States1086 Posts
On October 10 2020 03:46 Erasme wrote: IDK looking a Trump's twitter, you can see there's definitly a support for Biden. Even just browsing reddit or imgur you will get hit by some Biden/Harris sign. Unless you mean that there's barely anyone voting for biden but that theyre voting against trump. Yeah what I mean is that people are reluctantly voting against Trump and that people who are actually enthusiastic for Biden as a candidate beyond that narrative is a big minority. "Return to normal" is a statement against Trump and what he stands for. This is not to say that the left-wing voting population of America is not at least partially to blame for the left fielding a candidate nobody really cares about. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On October 10 2020 04:24 Danglars wrote: Anybody detached enough from the partisan fight to give Bart and Durham praise for rejecting a report release prior to the election? Stand up and be counted, since I expect y’all would have particular venom if a spying report had been released in the next couple weeks from the DoJ. Anybody detached enough from the partisan fight to realize that the president blamed the governor for almost getting kidnapped ? And didn't call her to ask her how she was doing ? | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 10 2020 04:41 JimmiC wrote: It is hard to praise Barr given his track record. Maybe the report is not really that pro Trump and he is holding off because it would look bad. Also, knowing the players involved them saying they won't release far from guarantees it won't, so I'm going to take a wait and see approach. Yeah, without knowing what's actually in the report I'm not sure whether this counts as professionalism. Reminds me of the voter fraud commission that mysteriously dissolved, quite possibly because they realized they couldn't manage to distort the data into showing anything like Trump's insane claims and they knew dissolving the voter fraud boogeyman would be disastrous for Republican voter suppression efforts. Heck, even McCrory ultimately fell on the sword rather than expose how little voting fraud there was in NC. It helped that the hopelessly gerrymandered GOP house was there to step in to try to strip the governor's office of as many powers as they could, though. | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On October 10 2020 04:24 Danglars wrote: Anybody detached enough from the partisan fight to give Bart and Durham praise for rejecting a report release prior to the election? Stand up and be counted, since I expect y’all would have particular venom if a spying report had been released in the next couple weeks from the DoJ. Durham maybe, Barr, not at all. Everything he's been doing (and most of all, saying, where his voice should be more reserved) in the past few months has been partisan. If there was real beef in that draft report, he would get a statement out, even if Durham didn't cave to the pressure. And add Pompeo who just caved to pressure from Trump and announced he would be releasing at least some of Clinton's emails before the election. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/09/pompeo-hillary-clinton-emails-428392 And despite already facing accusations this year of mixing politics with governing, Pompeo did not decline to tie at least some aspect of his pledge to the electoral calendar, saying that “we’re doing it as fast as we can” but predicting that “there will be more to see before the election.” | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
On October 10 2020 04:24 Danglars wrote: Anybody detached enough from the partisan fight to give Bart and Durham praise for rejecting a report release prior to the election? Stand up and be counted, since I expect y’all would have particular venom if a spying report had been released in the next couple weeks from the DoJ. I’d rather not be cynical, if it’s a matter of independence and thoroughness of investigation and they’re taking a Blizzard ‘it’s done when it’s done’ approach despite outside pressure then yes I welcome that. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27464 Posts
As it’s hypothetical and we don’t know what the report actually says, both scenarios are entirely plausible, but in the interests of fairness I won’t prejudge. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On October 10 2020 04:24 Danglars wrote: Anybody detached enough from the partisan fight to give Bart and Durham praise for rejecting a report release prior to the election? Stand up and be counted, since I expect y’all would have particular venom if a spying report had been released in the next couple weeks from the DoJ. It's interesting that Durham's work product would be viewed as influencing the election. Is Joe Biden implicated? Because that would seem to be the only way it would impact the election. Sounds to me like the media succeeded in planting the belief that a Durham report would impact the election, despite there not being much substance to that belief. Wonder why the media doesn't want to see Durham's work product? | ||
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JimmiC
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
On October 10 2020 06:09 JimmiC wrote: I don't understand the hatred for the "media". Are Fox news, OAN, Breibart and so on also not part of the "media"? I mean it would be tiring to have to type out "the liberal biased fake-news media" every time. | ||
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Nevuk
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On October 10 2020 05:57 Doodsmack wrote: It's interesting that Durham's work product would be viewed as influencing the election. Is Joe Biden implicated? Because that would seem to be the only way it would impact the election. Sounds to me like the media succeeded in planting the belief that a Durham report would impact the election, despite there not being much substance to that belief. Wonder why the media doesn't want to see Durham's work product? Biden was already implicated in declassified documents as being the one to suggest the Logan Act as a rationale to dig into Flynn. Other figures include disgraced officials from the Obama administration. Some exhibited clear bias in text messages for Clinton and against Trump. Democratic officials alleging deep penetration of Russia into the Trump administration include Pelosi, Schiff, and Nadler. As to the actual impact on voters, it may be none, small, or moderate. I'm not a big independent-whisperer on this election. The Trump administration had senior figures handicapped by the investigation, including recusals, and including the later Mueller investigation. The selective, felony leaks were lapped up by Trump-opposed media figures. It has the capacity to be very damaging to the Trump-Russia truthers, but I don't know what portion of the voting population will be persuaded to vote Trump from its release. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On October 10 2020 05:57 Doodsmack wrote: It's interesting that Durham's work product would be viewed as influencing the election. Is Joe Biden implicated? Because that would seem to be the only way it would impact the election. Sounds to me like the media succeeded in planting the belief that a Durham report would impact the election, despite there not being much substance to that belief. Wonder why the media doesn't want to see Durham's work product? Do you really not see how a report that clears Biden could have an impact on the election in the same way one that implicates Biden could? Every report that finds nothing dampens the effects of the "just wait for another report" crowd on the right, just like every report that found nothing or was redacted to find nothing dampened the "just wait for the final report" crowd on the left. | ||
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