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On August 13 2020 20:12 Ciaus_Dronu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2020 18:14 Gorsameth wrote:
In yet another low the twitter account of Herman Cain is retweeting Trump attack ads.
And yes, he died 2 weeks ago.
Not even the dead are safe from politics.
What the actual fuck. While being far from the most evil thing Benito Mangolini and his band of craven twits have done, this feels like a line I didn't even know existed being crossed.
His family is using his Twitter handle they made a long post about it on his website. Link is in bio for the Twitter acct
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On August 13 2020 13:37 Stratos_speAr wrote:
So I hadn't gotten around to watching the full body cam footage of George Floyd's death until now.
The paramedics that responded to the scene should be fired, at a minimum. I say this as a current paramedic. I was a student that trained with that very ambulance service that responded to the call. That was an astounding level of medical incompetence.
My own suspicion was that Floyd was already dead when the paramedics arrived (which the paramedics knew amongst themselves after they checked the pulse). I've seen something similar in other videos like this where the paramedics show up, check the pulse and realize that the cops just killed the person, and then kind of act as though everything is fine. Guess they don't really want to raise a fuss at the scene?
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On August 13 2020 23:28 JimmiC wrote:
As long as family is just using the twitter handle and not voting for the dead we should be OK. But it is still kinda creepy, especially in this case where he likely caught what killed him at a Trump rally.
To paraphrase a popular NRA slogan. Trump doesn't kill people, COVID kills people.
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On August 13 2020 23:28 JimmiC wrote:
As long as family is just using the twitter handle and not voting for the dead we should be OK. But it is still kinda creepy, especially in this case where he likely caught what killed him at a Trump rally.
It's posting stuff before rebranding the account that's souring me on this.
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His family posting it doesn't make it better in my eyes, let the dead lie in peace. If you want to continue his message do so in your own space, not through his twitter.
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As I see it, Trump is in a really difficult situation.
1. Unless COVID starts to actually, fully go away, Trump's re-election chances are significantly harmed by COVID
2. Unless the economy starts to turn around, Trump's re-election chances are harmed
3. Schools need to open for (2) to happen, but doing (2) before (1) will mean both (2) and (1) become less probable
So, Trump's only actual option here is to do everything in his power to fight COVID. But it seems like his team is telling him its too late to solve covid before the election.
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On August 14 2020 00:59 Mohdoo wrote:
As I see it, Trump is in a really difficult situation.
1. Unless COVID starts to actually, fully go away, Trump's re-election chances are significantly harmed by COVID
2. Unless the economy starts to turn around, Trump's re-election chances are harmed
3. Schools need to open for (2) to happen, but doing (2) before (1) will mean both (2) and (1) become less probable
So, Trump's only actual option here is to do everything in his power to fight COVID. But it seems like his team is telling him its too late to solve covid before the election.
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Trump's entire plan for the economy is "reopen it." It's clear he does not realize that the half-assed measures in the US that were done to solve the corvid problem were doomed to fail because they didn't go far enough, and at this point there is no way to prevent either pandemic death nor continued economic damage. A perfect "failure of leadership" example if there ever was one.
On another note, I will admit that I'm surprised that the executive order stands unchallenged. I suspect that a lot of people who would normally sue are happy to use something that appears unconstitutional as political cover for the failure of Congress to pump further stimulus. Of course, it'll run out of money within ten weeks, but it works for now.
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On August 14 2020 02:21 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2020 00:59 Mohdoo wrote:
As I see it, Trump is in a really difficult situation.
1. Unless COVID starts to actually, fully go away, Trump's re-election chances are significantly harmed by COVID
2. Unless the economy starts to turn around, Trump's re-election chances are harmed
3. Schools need to open for (2) to happen, but doing (2) before (1) will mean both (2) and (1) become less probable
So, Trump's only actual option here is to do everything in his power to fight COVID. But it seems like his team is telling him its too late to solve covid before the election.
. Trump's entire plan for the economy is "reopen it." It's clear he does not realize that the half-assed measures in the US that were done to solve the corvid problem were doomed to fail because they didn't go far enough, and at this point there is no way to prevent either pandemic death nor continued economic damage. A perfect "failure of leadership" example if there ever was one. On another note, I will admit that I'm surprised that the executive order stands unchallenged. I suspect that a lot of people who would normally sue are happy to use something that appears unconstitutional as political cover for the failure of Congress to pump further stimulus. Of course, it'll run out of money within ten weeks, but it works for now.
Opening too soon has already had measurably bad impacts on plenty of states. If Trump tried to open too early, he would be in an even worse position in November. So I don't think he'll push to re-open early. I honestly don't see what his actual options are here.
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On August 14 2020 02:21 LegalLord wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2020 00:59 Mohdoo wrote:
As I see it, Trump is in a really difficult situation.
1. Unless COVID starts to actually, fully go away, Trump's re-election chances are significantly harmed by COVID
2. Unless the economy starts to turn around, Trump's re-election chances are harmed
3. Schools need to open for (2) to happen, but doing (2) before (1) will mean both (2) and (1) become less probable
So, Trump's only actual option here is to do everything in his power to fight COVID. But it seems like his team is telling him its too late to solve covid before the election.
. Trump's entire plan for the economy is "reopen it." It's clear he does not realize that the half-assed measures in the US that were done to solve the corvid problem were doomed to fail because they didn't go far enough, and at this point there is no way to prevent either pandemic death nor continued economic damage. A perfect "failure of leadership" example if there ever was one. On another note, I will admit that I'm surprised that the executive order stands unchallenged. I suspect that a lot of people who would normally sue are happy to use something that appears unconstitutional as political cover for the failure of Congress to pump further stimulus. Of course, it'll run out of money within ten weeks, but it works for now.
The "executive order" has gone unchallenged because it was just a memo and not real policy at all from what I've seen.
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That's a strategy, but not really a sane strategy.
Even the GOP wants people to use mail-in ballots in swing states (NC/FL state GOP have sent out mailers with his tweet about mail-in ballots, with the parts about fraud blurred out).
GOP voters are much more vulnerable to the virus due to their, on average, higher age. That a portion believe it's a hoax would turn out regardless.
The WORST he can do is make it so it takes a couple weeks to count votes instead of a few days. Also, pissing off the post office like this is a good way to make them ONLY send ballots and ignore all other mail. The idea of privatizing the USPS is patently impossible, iirc. It's literally in the constitution, not even an amendment.
Raising doubts about the integrity of the process in a desperate maneuver to maintain his power is what it seems like, but it's also bad at that. He's already done that about every vote that's ever gone against him, so no one besides his die hard base believes it.
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Yeah I can see why Trump (or more accurately Kushner, as the case may be) thinks this is a play to make, but there’s no way it helps him in the end. He’s undermining future claims that the “Deep State” is responsible for vote count messes while at the same time increasing the likelihood that a core Republican demographic legitimately has issues having its ballots counted.
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On August 14 2020 03:34 Nevuk wrote:
That's a strategy, but not really a sane strategy.
Even the GOP wants people to use mail-in ballots in swing states (NC/FL state GOP have sent out mailers with his tweet about mail-in ballots, with the parts about fraud blurred out).
GOP voters are much more vulnerable to the virus due to their, on average, higher age. That a portion believe it's a hoax would turn out regardless.
The WORST he can do is make it so it takes a couple weeks to count votes instead of a few days. Also, pissing off the post office like this is a good way to make them ONLY send ballots and ignore all other mail. The idea of privatizing the USPS is patently impossible, iirc. It's literally in the constitution, not even an amendment.
Raising doubts about the integrity of the process in a desperate maneuver to maintain his power is what it seems like, but it's also bad at that. He's already done that about every vote that's ever gone against him, so no one besides his die hard base believes it.
Are absentee ballots considered the same as mail-in ballots ? Pretty unfamiliar with the US voting system, but if that's the case, a lot of states require the vote to be received by election day.
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On August 14 2020 03:56 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2020 03:34 Nevuk wrote:
That's a strategy, but not really a sane strategy.
Even the GOP wants people to use mail-in ballots in swing states (NC/FL state GOP have sent out mailers with his tweet about mail-in ballots, with the parts about fraud blurred out).
GOP voters are much more vulnerable to the virus due to their, on average, higher age. That a portion believe it's a hoax would turn out regardless.
The WORST he can do is make it so it takes a couple weeks to count votes instead of a few days. Also, pissing off the post office like this is a good way to make them ONLY send ballots and ignore all other mail. The idea of privatizing the USPS is patently impossible, iirc. It's literally in the constitution, not even an amendment.
Raising doubts about the integrity of the process in a desperate maneuver to maintain his power is what it seems like, but it's also bad at that. He's already done that about every vote that's ever gone against him, so no one besides his die hard base believes it. Are absentee ballots considered the same as mail-in ballots ? Pretty unfamiliar with the US voting system, but if that's the case, a lot of states require the vote to be received by election day. https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/vopp-table-11-receipt-and-postmark-deadlines-for-absentee-ballots.aspx
as with so many things it differs by state.
Some can be several days late so long as they were postmarked before election day, other states require them to be received by the end, or noon, of election day.
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If neither side wins a blowout in enough critical states, it may be three weeks before we know who won.
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On August 14 2020 03:56 Erasme wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2020 03:34 Nevuk wrote:
That's a strategy, but not really a sane strategy.
Even the GOP wants people to use mail-in ballots in swing states (NC/FL state GOP have sent out mailers with his tweet about mail-in ballots, with the parts about fraud blurred out).
GOP voters are much more vulnerable to the virus due to their, on average, higher age. That a portion believe it's a hoax would turn out regardless.
The WORST he can do is make it so it takes a couple weeks to count votes instead of a few days. Also, pissing off the post office like this is a good way to make them ONLY send ballots and ignore all other mail. The idea of privatizing the USPS is patently impossible, iirc. It's literally in the constitution, not even an amendment.
Raising doubts about the integrity of the process in a desperate maneuver to maintain his power is what it seems like, but it's also bad at that. He's already done that about every vote that's ever gone against him, so no one besides his die hard base believes it. Are absentee ballots considered the same as mail-in ballots ? Pretty unfamiliar with the US voting system, but if that's the case, a lot of states require the vote to be received by election day.
It's not really that easy to only throw out the ballots received from blue districts and keep it for the others. Especially if you get rid of the automatic sorters, like his guy did recently.
Now you have to rely on the fact that any random mail worker you ask to do it won't laugh in your face and call the press (it's a very serious felony, which most workers aren't willing to commit for any tiny gain they might get from being willing to do it).
All this strategy could possibly do is (at best) randomly depress the vote, and at worst have the opposite intended effect (workers process blue district votes first, out of spite - but it's not like your average postal worker has a detailed knowledge of districts, so that's only going to happen if they are given a list of areas to process first and instead do them last). If it were 50-100 people doing it, then maybe it would work like Kushner/Trump thinks. But it's 500k+.
If all he can do is reduce the number of people votes counted by 50%, at random, it isn't going to impact the ratio of votes he receives. Just the total number cast.
The US, for all its flaws, has a pretty ridiculously hard to rig voting process due to its extreme decentralization. Could Trump rig a few areas for himself? Sure, if all the local politicians were already in his pocket and the locals wouldn't tattle. But that would almost always mean that the area was already a total lock for him and doing so would have been pointless.
On August 14 2020 04:56 Danglars wrote:
If neither side wins a blowout in enough critical states, it may be three weeks before we know who won.
Yep, this is the only real effect of it. It'll irritate everyone.
(Also, some AOC snark on the subject. I found it humorous, but it's nothing critical).
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Michael Cohen has dropped the foreword to his book and it implies some genuinely pretty shocking stuff. Backs up some of the most sordid claims of the Steele Dossier.
It's no more than another papercut to Trump's image, but they do add up overtime.
Cohen almost certainly DOES know the most about Trump of anyone, but the question is whether he is actually telling the truth or not. He sounds like he is (and has more self-reflection than I would have believed anyone from this crowd capable of), but it's not the easiest thing to judge.
There are reasons why there has never been an intimate portrait of Donald Trump, the man. In part, it’s because he has a million acquaintances, pals and hangers on, but no real friends. He has no one he trusts to keep his secrets. For ten years, he certainly had me, and I was always there for him, and look what happened to me. I urge you to really consider that fact: Trump has no true friends. He has lived his entire life avoiding and evading taking responsibility for his actions. He crushed or cheated all who stood in his way, but I know where the skeletons are buried because I was the one who buried them. I was the one who most encouraged him to run for president in 2011, and then again in 2015, carefully orchestrating the famous trip down the escalator in Trump Tower for him to announce his candidacy. When Trump wanted to reach Russian President Vladimir Putin, via a secret back channel, I was tasked with making the connection in my Keystone Kop fashion. I stiffed contractors on his behalf, ripped off his business partners, lied to his wife Melania to hide his sexual infidelities, and bullied and screamed at anyone who threatened Trump’s path to power. From golden showers in a sex club in Vegas, to tax fraud, to deals with corrupt officials from the former Soviet Union, to catch and kill conspiracies to silence Trump’s clandestine lovers, I wasn’t just a witness to the president’s rise—I was an active and eager participant.
To underscore that last crucial point, let me say now that I had agency in my relationship with Trump. I made choices along the way—terrible, heartless, stupid, cruel, dishonest, destructive choices, but they were mine and constituted my reality and life. During my years with Trump, to give one example, I fell out of touch with my sisters and younger brother, as I imagined myself becoming a big shot. I’d made my fortune out of taxi medallions, a business viewed as sketchy if not lower class. On Park Avenue, where I lived, I was definitely nouveau riche, but I had big plans that didn’t include being excluded from the elite. I had a narrative: I wanted to climb the highest mountains of Manhattan’s skyscraping ambition, to inhabit the world from the vantage point of private jets and billion-dollar deals, and I was willing to do whatever it took to get there. Then there was my own considerable ego, short temper, and willingness to deceive to get ahead, regardless of the consequences.
https://disloyalthebook.com/download-the-disloyal-foreword-written-by-michael-cohen/
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