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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 01:16:28
March 11 2020 01:16 GMT
#43441
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
March 11 2020 01:59 GMT
#43442
Oh my god, can you imagine if Biden picked Hillary as his VP and then cited some health reason to just quit and she actually became president.

That'd be some seriously hilarious shit.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 02:02:51
March 11 2020 02:02 GMT
#43443
What's the procedure if a nominee dies or is otherwise forced to drop out, anyway? Does the VP become the nominee automatically?

I assume it'd be the end of the campaign either way, but presumably someone living would need to be on the ballot to lose to Trump.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 02:09:11
March 11 2020 02:07 GMT
#43444
The outlook on Trump's reelection as a general proposition is more in flux than one might think, the next three months or so will be full of dramatic events that directly impact on the election I would guess.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23571 Posts
March 11 2020 02:11 GMT
#43445
On March 11 2020 11:07 farvacola wrote:
The outlook on Trump's reelection as a general proposition is more in flux than one might think, the next three months or so will be full of dramatic events here I would guess.


If Corona doesn't get under control he (and Democrats) might have legitimate cause in calling a state of emergency and suspending the election altogether.

If millions of people literally can't vote without violating basic protocols around limiting the spread of the virus there could be an argument made that it is irresponsible to have them line up anyway.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 02:14:42
March 11 2020 02:14 GMT
#43446
I would guess that they'll go through with it regardless, and that there's a good chance that the virus itself will be less of a concern come November than the secondary consequences that are only beginning to take hold. But yeah, it's hard to say.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 11 2020 02:15 GMT
#43447
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 02:17:38
March 11 2020 02:16 GMT
#43448
On March 11 2020 11:07 farvacola wrote:
The outlook on Trump's reelection as a general proposition is more in flux than one might think, the next three months or so will be full of dramatic events that directly impact on the election I would guess.

Absolutely, anything can happen at the moment.

I mean, we have on the table that one or both octogenarian candidates could die from a pandemic during the campaign.

Even without that, at least one octogenarian candidate seems likely to forget his own name by the time he has to put it on a how to vote card. The other can at least read the letters slowly off his giant concrete penis in New York.

Even with the world ending, I still think the Dems are toast if Biden has to pull out mid-campaign.
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 02:23:56
March 11 2020 02:19 GMT
#43449
I think the election would be pretty much the last thing they would cancel, I assume it's unconstitutional anyway, if it's goes to the point you can't have your election it's pretty much mean it's a complete social meltdown.

Edit: In any case it should be all over in 8 months half the world scientist are on it, if it's not solve then we're just all in deep shit lol.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18845 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 02:20:51
March 11 2020 02:19 GMT
#43450
Edit: sort of in response to the above three posts lol

But thats the thing, the vote can't just be delayed by any kind of decree; one of the odd side effects of our strangely disconnected voting system is that the federal government can't really exert much power over voting operations themselves, so the states can and almost certainly will say whatever dude and hold a vote regardless. What follows from there is less clear, but it'd be much harder for him to hold on if a vote is actually held.

There's also a very real possibility that Trump will no longer want to be president if and when the economy is in such shambles that his self-enrichment takes a hit, which is definitely a possibility. All the national financial cards are on the table here.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 02:30:50
March 11 2020 02:30 GMT
#43451
On March 11 2020 10:59 Zambrah wrote:
Oh my god, can you imagine if Biden picked Hillary as his VP and then cited some health reason to just quit and she actually became president.

That'd be some seriously hilarious shit.


I just want him to get on stage at the convention, then in his speech accepting the nomination made a shocking announcement that his health is not good enough and he need to give it up to someone else, then step back from the stage with a huge black curtain slowly raising and Hillary stepping out of the shadow on live TV in front of all the party.
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23571 Posts
March 11 2020 02:40 GMT
#43452
On March 11 2020 11:30 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2020 10:59 Zambrah wrote:
Oh my god, can you imagine if Biden picked Hillary as his VP and then cited some health reason to just quit and she actually became president.

That'd be some seriously hilarious shit.


I just want him to get on stage at the convention, then in his speech accepting the nomination made a shocking announcement that his health is not good enough and he need to give it up to someone else, then step back from the stage with a huge black curtain slowly raising and Hillary stepping out of the shadow on live TV in front of all the party.


Might not be a convention either as a result of CV-19, particularly if Democrats listen to Clyburn and cancel the rest of the Primary.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 02:44:28
March 11 2020 02:44 GMT
#43453
On March 11 2020 11:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2020 11:30 Nakajin wrote:
On March 11 2020 10:59 Zambrah wrote:
Oh my god, can you imagine if Biden picked Hillary as his VP and then cited some health reason to just quit and she actually became president.

That'd be some seriously hilarious shit.


I just want him to get on stage at the convention, then in his speech accepting the nomination made a shocking announcement that his health is not good enough and he need to give it up to someone else, then step back from the stage with a huge black curtain slowly raising and Hillary stepping out of the shadow on live TV in front of all the party.


Might not be a convention either as a result of CV-19, particularly if Democrats listen to Clyburn and cancel the rest of the Primary.


Turn out CV-19 was a Clinton plot all along to eliminated the rest of the democratic field, probably developed in the basement of a Washington pizzeria.

Also did Clyburn actually said they should cancel the rest of the primary? Wtf
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23571 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 14:35:01
March 11 2020 02:54 GMT
#43454
On March 11 2020 11:44 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2020 11:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 11 2020 11:30 Nakajin wrote:
On March 11 2020 10:59 Zambrah wrote:
Oh my god, can you imagine if Biden picked Hillary as his VP and then cited some health reason to just quit and she actually became president.

That'd be some seriously hilarious shit.


I just want him to get on stage at the convention, then in his speech accepting the nomination made a shocking announcement that his health is not good enough and he need to give it up to someone else, then step back from the stage with a huge black curtain slowly raising and Hillary stepping out of the shadow on live TV in front of all the party.


Might not be a convention either as a result of CV-19, particularly if Democrats listen to Clyburn and cancel the rest of the Primary.


Turn out CV-19 was a Clinton plot all along to eliminated the rest of the democratic field, probably developed in the basement of a Washington pizzeria.

Also did Clyburn actually said they should cancel the rest of the primary? Wtf

lmao. I'll give Clinton credit for a lot of problems, but even I can't credit her with CV-19, maybe LL though

But yeah, he sure did.

I think when the night is over, Joe Biden will be the prohibitive favorite to win the Democratic nomination, and, quite frankly, if the night ends the way it has begun, I think it is time for us to shut this primary down, it is time for us to cancel the rest of these debates...

thehill.com
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-11 03:10:40
March 11 2020 03:03 GMT
#43455
I mean, from the perspective of "will Biden win the majority of delegates" there's some truth there. Tonight was Sanders' best possible night from a number of delegates perspective pretty much for the rest of the calendar. Short of a catastrophic event, Biden is almost certainly going to walk away with the majority of pledged delegates, and if there's a catastrophic event (e.g. death/medical diagnosis that isn't reddit detectives/secret assassins) it seems like the remaining states voting would not be the best way to address it. You would probably want a total restart on the contest. Still a dumb way to put it though.

It will be interesting to see if Sanders acknowledges the implausibility of victory in the primary after tonight. It will also be interesting how he handles his "only I can win in the Rust Belt," because while that might be the case he'll have to do some verbal gymnastics to get there he didn't have to do before. I can say anecdotally that staying in as long as he did in 2016 left a bad taste in my parents' mouths...and personally I think I might prefer him to donate his outstanding campaign funds to helping fight coronavirus/directly help people in some other way at the end of March, even though that would probably be highly illegal.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
March 11 2020 11:49 GMT
#43456
On March 11 2020 11:30 Nakajin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2020 10:59 Zambrah wrote:
Oh my god, can you imagine if Biden picked Hillary as his VP and then cited some health reason to just quit and she actually became president.

That'd be some seriously hilarious shit.


I just want him to get on stage at the convention, then in his speech accepting the nomination made a shocking announcement that his health is not good enough and he need to give it up to someone else, then step back from the stage with a huge black curtain slowly raising and Hillary stepping out of the shadow on live TV in front of all the party.


With the Imperial March playing in the background?
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6220 Posts
March 12 2020 02:51 GMT
#43457
Well travel from europe to usa just got blocked.

Better brace yourselves, we're in for a ride. If 2016-2019 wasnt bad enough, corona is starting 2020 off with a bang
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
March 12 2020 03:09 GMT
#43458
Wonderful time to drive home that national healthcare is a public safety and national security interest.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-03-12 03:12:19
March 12 2020 03:12 GMT
#43459
This reeks of the Muslim travel-ban. I am not sure how well this edict will hold up either logistically (flights routing through CA or the UK?) or legally.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23571 Posts
March 12 2020 04:39 GMT
#43460
On March 12 2020 12:09 Gahlo wrote:
Wonderful time to drive home that national healthcare is a public safety and national security interest.

This and Biden saying he would veto m4a should dominate the debate imo, but probably wont get as much time as questions about Bernie dropping out and backing Biden or Bernie's online supporters.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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