US Politics Mega-thread - Page 1869

On October 26 2019 07:57 Mohdoo wrote:
My uncle loves describing himself as a centrist.

Replied to a Ben Shapiro video on Facebook praising him lol

On October 25 2019 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
Very big news here that the DOJ's probe of the Russian collusion investigation has become a criminal inquiry, at least in part, meaning that some minimal evidence of crime was found. Of course, committed partisans like this CNN pundit will disregard the probe out of hand. I suspect that the facts are going to come out one way or another, and if in fact there was malfeasance in the origins of the Trump-Russia investigation, the facts will bear it out in a way that partisan arguments can't obfuscate.

https://twitter.com/eliehonig/status/1187526145488625666

On October 25 2019 12:19 Ben... wrote:

It's crazy how much his campaign and rhetoric has changed. When he first started he was saying all the right things, had messaging that made sense, and had genuine support from both establishment Democrats and some progressives. Now he's painful to watch, his policy has turned into completely generic watered-down centrist Democrat stuff that commits to nothing, and he's as cringy as Andrew Yang to listen to now.

In other news, this stuff about Barr launching an official criminal investigation of the investigation of Russian interference of the 2016 election is genuinely concerning. Barr had appointed some prosecutor guy to do work on the issue, but nobody was agreeing to speak with him voluntarily, so now Barr made it official so the guy can subpoena people. The concern is that he's doing this to discourage others from investigating interference in the upcoming election, scare people away from speaking up about anything potentially bad, and of course, to be used as a way of slinging mud at opportune times during the next year or so.

It wouldn't be scary if he hadn't done literally everything possible to make himself completely untrustworthy. Not only that, he has been doing what genuinely appears to amount to chasing conspiracy theories for the last few months, and seems to be taking them seriously.

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It's Barr. Trust nothing. The facts won't bear out in a way that partisan arguments can't obfuscate because given Barr's history of leaving out key facts and context, he is likely to actually leave out any facts or information that doesn't support whatever he wants. He has a repeated history of doing this type of stuff, which is why people are freaking out. "Some minimal evidence" could be literally nothing with this guy. He once put out a summary memo of a legal opinion justifying the kidnapping of a foreign person without consent of the country they are in and claimed in the summary he had legal justification for his claims, but then when the actual text of the legal opinion came out it later on turned out his entire justification was that Barr thought it was fine that the president break international law to do kidnap people in other countries without consent of those countries, which went against pretty much every other opinion on the topic and caused the government to immediately distance itself from the legal opinion. He had no actual legal justification, and he had just happened to have left the most important part that blew his whole argument apart out of his memo. He did a similar thing when he left out key context in his memo on the Mueller report that made it sound like the report was much less damning than it actually was. There's good reason nobody trusts him.

Here's a pretty good article outlining what he did relating to his OLC opinion in the 1980s

On October 26 2019 01:39 Ryzel wrote:


Oof, don’t know how that’s going to go over with her constituents. Hawaii is as blue as it gets.

On October 27 2019 23:22 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Al Baghdadi is dead apparently. Awaiting Trump tweet claiming he did it all by himself.

On October 27 2019 23:22 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Al Baghdadi is dead apparently. Awaiting Trump tweet claiming he did it all by himself.