EPTUS Politics Mega-thread - Page 1131
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Lazare64
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12570 Posts
On February 20 2019 04:29 Dangermousecatdog wrote: "They" is more about the corporate power dynamics and conflicts in a state and their political interests in both domestic and foreign policy. You just described Donald Trump. Are you assuming that he likes Trump? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22659 Posts
On February 20 2019 04:29 Dangermousecatdog wrote: I mean that was the great con of 2016 no? To convince blue collar Americans that in order to remove the influence of the rich on American politics they had to elect a rich man who bragged about buying politicians."They" is more about the corporate power dynamics and conflicts in a state and their political interests in both domestic and foreign policy. You just described the Trump family. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
No, I am making the observation that he just described Donald Trump. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On February 19 2019 22:32 Liquid`Drone wrote: It's like, I don't really disagree, but.. I think 'best person for the job' should apply just as much to the president as to other people. If anything, stuff like 'age' is less important for high profile jobs because the candidates are under such scrutiny that you can evaluate them on individual metrics like 'how good is his health' rather than generally true assumptions on their health based on age. This is all well and good if you get rid of the existing age requirement for running for office. But insofar as there is already an age requirement, it makes absolutely no sense that a 34-year-old is disqualified from running for presidency but a 70-year-old isn't. Age-related cognitive impairment was not something the founding fathers knew about when they made the rules, but given what we know now, the rules should be changed to account for it. And I don't think "looking sharp" is good enough. Even a mild degree of cognitive impairment should quite frankly be disqualifying for a job as mentally demanding as the presidency, and most people with mild cognitive impairment still appear to function totally normally at first glance in situations where they aren't being evaluated clinically (especially when they're relatively affluent and have a good support network). Appearing to be mentally capable under the very controlled conditions of broadcast television is not a good enough indicator of someone's cognitive function. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12570 Posts
And yeah you could also get rid of this 34-year-old thing. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
The vast majority of people support Bernie with the "moderate" Oregonians splitting between Klobuchar and Beto. I think Biden's high numbers right now are just from politics noobs wanting Obama back after Trump. Once the Bernie machine gets fully ramped up, I expect a lot of people to drop out. Bernie is like this ultimate fusion of having all the benefits of an "establishment" candidate while also keeping all the benefits of being a ideologue/populist. Fundraising like crazy. I honestly won't be surprised if Bernie ends up completely destroying this primary. I'm going to go hard for Bernie this time. Also, "hindsight is 2020" is perhaps the best Bernie slogan ever. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6223 Posts
On February 20 2019 07:12 JimmiC wrote: Who would be your ideal VP for Bernie? Someone like Beto who is "young" and more moderate? Someone not in the Pres race? Who are you thinking? Definitely someone young. Obama picked Biden because he was young and needed the appearance of a balanced experienced head, whereas Bernie has the opposite requirement. Beto oozes charisma, and realistically doesn't have anywhere near the level of experience, so it'd be a good match. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12570 Posts
On February 20 2019 07:06 Mohdoo wrote: Also, "hindsight is 2020" is perhaps the best Bernie slogan ever. Holy shit that's so good I need to buy that t-shirt like yesterday | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On February 20 2019 07:12 JimmiC wrote: Who would be your ideal VP for Bernie? Someone like Beto who is "young" and more moderate? Someone not in the Pres race? Who are you thinking? Beto, Klobuchar, one of the other "young" moderates. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Its kinda long, so I didn’t post the whole thing. But the tweets at connected, so you can just click the first one and read them all in order. One more thing, Sam does touch on the “Bernie Bro” complains by saying that the campaign did have a “frat house” feel to it. You can see him respond to some specific questions about that if you go to the replies to that specific tweet. I do hope Sanders can reel in that specific problem this time around. Because I believe it really hurt him, giving my discussions with women who would have gladly voted for a far left candidate, but didn’t like Bernie. | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On February 20 2019 07:30 On_Slaught wrote: I think Beto is a good VP pick for whoever makes it through. Same. He is good for any ticket. Bernie/Beto or Bernie/Klobuchar (if they can get along) are two really great combos IMO. | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On February 20 2019 07:47 farvacola wrote: Harris or Klobuchar would be ideal VPs, though Beto would be fine too. I've got a vague feeling that Beto has some more unknown skeletons in his closet, but that's just a hunch. Gotta be honest, I've had the same fear regarding Beto. Part of me also thinks someone who dug up something truly juicy would have decided to hold on to it until some presidential run. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On February 20 2019 07:47 farvacola wrote: Harris or Klobuchar would be ideal VPs, though Beto would be fine too. I've got a vague feeling that Beto has some more unknown skeletons in his closet, but that's just a hunch. Like sexual abuse acusations by staffers (I don't give them much credit, but they will start raining down on the primaries) or partying on the soviet union shirtless? | ||
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