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On February 11 2019 08:39 IgnE wrote:
Yes, I can. But I don't understand why you think I would pose a rhetorical question that makes my "own initial objections less valid," and rather than assume one of the myriad ways in which you could be wrong, I'd like to know exactly which way you are wrong.
It's fine if you want to admit you have no idea what I was talking about. But then I'm just left wondering why you bothered to object at all.
No, I understood, I'm just not playing your game.
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Oh so you weren't actually trying to have a conversation.
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On February 11 2019 10:31 IgnE wrote:
Oh so you weren't actually trying to have a conversation.
Glad to see that with the closing of the blog we have thusly returned to the endless feedback loops of "you're misinterpreting me" and "read my first post".
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On February 11 2019 10:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2019 10:31 IgnE wrote:
Oh so you weren't actually trying to have a conversation. Glad to see that with the closing of the blog we have thusly returned to the endless feedback loops of "you're misinterpreting me" and "read my first post".
Which is doubly weird because its not the same people who posted in the blog thread.
We should build a wall between the US politics thread and the euro politics thread for a month. One thread has just euro people talknig about politics that can include the us and the other just has north american people talking about poltiics that can include the euro politics.
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On February 11 2019 09:06 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
So, I scrolled down the portraits in the link and saw some guy with the most impressive portrait called Vermin Supreme.
He's been in the Democratic primary for at least two previous elections, probably more. He's about as serious a candidate as Deez Nuts.
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Vermin Supreme is a national treasure. He has been doing that bit for years and never breaks character.
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On February 11 2019 10:57 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2019 10:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 11 2019 10:31 IgnE wrote:
Oh so you weren't actually trying to have a conversation. Glad to see that with the closing of the blog we have thusly returned to the endless feedback loops of "you're misinterpreting me" and "read my first post". Which is doubly weird because its not the same people who posted in the blog thread. We should build a wall between the US politics thread and the euro politics thread for a month. One thread has just euro people talknig about politics that can include the us and the other just has north american people talking about poltiics that can include the euro politics.
Actually both me and Igne did post over there.
I would like to say that the reason I posted in this manner was entirely because I wanted to avoid that cycle and make Igne clarify his point rather than wait for me to say something so he could leap upon his high horse and say how he didn't mean that. I certainly don't intend for it to become a theme.
Has there been any further whispers about the government re-shutting down/another fight over the wall? I'm not seeing anything on my side of the pond but I distinctly remember Trump saying he was going to do it in another two weeks was it?
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On February 11 2019 22:28 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2019 10:57 Sermokala wrote:On February 11 2019 10:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 11 2019 10:31 IgnE wrote:
Oh so you weren't actually trying to have a conversation. Glad to see that with the closing of the blog we have thusly returned to the endless feedback loops of "you're misinterpreting me" and "read my first post". Which is doubly weird because its not the same people who posted in the blog thread. We should build a wall between the US politics thread and the euro politics thread for a month. One thread has just euro people talknig about politics that can include the us and the other just has north american people talking about poltiics that can include the euro politics. Actually both me and Igne did post over there. I would like to say that the reason I posted in this manner was entirely because I wanted to avoid that cycle and make Igne clarify his point rather than wait for me to say something so he could leap upon his high horse and say how he didn't mean that. I certainly don't intend for it to become a theme. Has there been any further whispers about the government re-shutting down/another fight over the wall? I'm not seeing anything on my side of the pond but I distinctly remember Trump saying he was going to do it in another two weeks was it?
With many thousands poised to strike, I can't even fathom that another shutdown could happen. I foresee nationwide flight disruptions on day one at a bare minimum. And that is something the nation depends on. To answer your question, I believe I heard that talks were breaking down over the number of beds that were to be funded for detainees. Dems want around 25% fewer funded to make ICE be more selective. This report really kneecaps the administration's ability to declare an emergency or to even assert that this is a crisis of any kind, as it appears to be intentional and of their own design.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/trump-admin-weighed-targeting-migrant-families-speeding-deportation-children-n958811
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On February 11 2019 10:57 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2019 10:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 11 2019 10:31 IgnE wrote:
Oh so you weren't actually trying to have a conversation. Glad to see that with the closing of the blog we have thusly returned to the endless feedback loops of "you're misinterpreting me" and "read my first post". Which is doubly weird because its not the same people who posted in the blog thread. Made triply weird because Sermakola posted there too, sometimes within the same page as either.
But to answer iamthedave's wonderings, I'm guessing that Trump doesn't have the stomach for another fight, especially since the democrats control the house and the republicans in the senate are now passing the budget, which they weren't previously.
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Well shit, here it is folks. I really hope AMI goes down and Pecker loses his immunity deal. Depending on how much Trump knew, he could be on the hook as well.
"Documents reviewed by the Daily Beast show that Michael Sanchez believed the Enquirer pursued its story about Bezos with “President Trump’s knowledge and appreciation” — a chase encouraged, in Sanchez’s estimation, by Republican operatives “who THINK Jeff gets up every morning and has a [Washington Post] meeting to plot its next diabolical attack on President Trump.”
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/02/report-mistress-pro-trump-brother-leaked-bezos-texts.html
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The Democrats are leveraging the power of the purse to reign in Trump’s campaign of abusing asylum seekers. They know they have a strong position.
Edit: LOL, Trump just can't let the grudges go. He has to pick a fight with the richest man in the world. Also AMI is a group of morons for trying to go after Bezos. People need to learn to stay in their weight class.
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I like the bit in their plea deal where they promise to not commit any more crimes for three years. I 100% get it as a sort of "good behavior" clause, but it's just kind of hilarious that (a) they had to be explicitly told not to commit crimes and (b) they apparently couldn't even wait a year to go out and be crimey again.
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It's a pretty strange deal actually. The 3 years part anyways. Like, it's ok after 3 years, go commit as many crimes as you can after that.
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On February 11 2019 23:41 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
It's a pretty strange deal actually. The 3 years part anyways. Like, it's ok after 3 years, go commit as many crimes as you can after that.
Yeah, the fact that you had to put a specific period of time in there as opposed to just taking the default position of "you shouldn't commit crimes ever" makes me believe they (the prosecutors) knew something else would come up...
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Dunno, probation is pretty normal with regards to crimes, so i don't think it is that absurd to have something similar in such a deal.
The thing with probation rules is not that you are fine with committing crimes afterwards, it means that if you violate your probation, in addition to the penalties of the new crime, you also get punished for the old crime which probation you violated.
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Plea deals and probation periods can’t have unlimited scope and time. They have to have an end date. The state can’t create a deal that would have a sword of Damocles hanging over the guilty party’s head for the rest of their life.
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I guess that makes sense. But it just seems weird because whether it's 3, 5, or 10 years until they commit another crime, they can be pursued legally. I suppose that timeframe exists because it says in the agreement that if they commit any crimes within 3 years, all the evidence and testimony from this case becomes admissible. Didn't really think about it like I should have.
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On February 11 2019 22:28 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2019 10:57 Sermokala wrote:On February 11 2019 10:47 WolfintheSheep wrote:On February 11 2019 10:31 IgnE wrote:
Oh so you weren't actually trying to have a conversation. Glad to see that with the closing of the blog we have thusly returned to the endless feedback loops of "you're misinterpreting me" and "read my first post". Which is doubly weird because its not the same people who posted in the blog thread. We should build a wall between the US politics thread and the euro politics thread for a month. One thread has just euro people talknig about politics that can include the us and the other just has north american people talking about poltiics that can include the euro politics. Actually both me and Igne did post over there. I would like to say that the reason I posted in this manner was entirely because I wanted to avoid that cycle and make Igne clarify his point rather than wait for me to say something so he could leap upon his high horse and say how he didn't mean that. I certainly don't intend for it to become a theme. Has there been any further whispers about the government re-shutting down/another fight over the wall? I'm not seeing anything on my side of the pond but I distinctly remember Trump saying he was going to do it in another two weeks was it?
I'm sorry that was a poorly worded shitpost I remember intending for more likes in it in order to be sarcastic. I guess I just was tired and forgot.
There has been rumors that the negotiations are completely stalled and people are trying to create a backstop in case they don't come up with a deal that trump will sign onto. Things are looking day-to-day for what might turn out.
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I fully expect there to be no agreement by the 15th because the Dems have no reason to capitulate on the wall without getting major concessions in return that the Republicans seem unwilling to do.
What Trump will do then is a bigger mystery. He may follow through on his threat but I somehow doubt it. He knows he lost the last time, and there is no reason to assume this time would go different.
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On February 12 2019 01:11 Gorsameth wrote:
I fully expect there to be no agreement by the 15th because the Dems have no reason to capitulate on the wall without getting major concessions in return that the Republicans seem unwilling to do.
What Trump will do then is a bigger mystery. He may follow through on his threat but I somehow doubt it. He knows he lost the last time, and there is no reason to assume this time would go different.
Republicans got a huge majority of the shutdown blame. It is why Trump eventually caved, he was suffering THAT much. Even a man as mindlessly stubborn as he is. Once the shutdown comes around a second time, I imagine people will blame trump even more.
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