EPTAnyway, how is this bad news - except for the obvious tragedy of two dead people? What I see as really bad news for the region is any improvement of Russian-Turkish relations, so this could be actually useful.
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
Anyway, how is this bad news - except for the obvious tragedy of two dead people? What I see as really bad news for the region is any improvement of Russian-Turkish relations, so this could be actually useful. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On December 20 2016 04:42 maze. wrote: Prayers for his family. The conspiracy theorists are gonna have a field day in the next 24hours. On December 20 2016 04:07 farvacola wrote: Be suspicious of anyone who claims to be able to tell the future based on this event, particularly during the next 24 hours. The number of people making crazed predictions all over the internet and news media is incredible. Oh shit, Franz Ferdinand is dead? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
Just before the assasination, behind is the killer. ![[image loading]](http://i.hizliresim.com/Annz9B.jpg) | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22210 Posts
On December 20 2016 04:46 opisska wrote: I am quite fascinated by the guts of whoever took those pictures of the killer with a gun in his hand ... It honestly lloks almost suspicious. Is it sure that this is actually what happened? Anyway, how is this bad news - except for the obvious tragedy of two dead people? What I see as really bad news for the region is any improvement of Russian-Turkish relations, so this could be actually useful. i mean the shooting was carried out in front of a camera that was recording/broadcasting the event | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:04 ahswtini wrote: i mean the shooting was carried out in front of a camera that was recording/broadcasting the event Sure, but the photos do not look like video frames and they are also nicely focused on him. It seems like someone took those on purpose, instead of running away. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9266 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:06 opisska wrote: Sure, but the photos do not look like video frames and they are also nicely focused on him. It seems like someone took those on purpose, instead of running away. I think the killer made it clear that he's not going to shoot the reporters so one of them just used the opportunity to make photos of his life. | ||
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RoomOfMush
1296 Posts
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:06 Sent. wrote: Does anyone know where was the Russian security? I assume Russian ambassadors have their own bodyguards, at least in countries where there is a high risk of terrorist attacks I think the killer made it clear that he's not going to shoot the reporters so one of them just used the opportunity to make photos of his life. I think the photographer just chanced it and ended up being right. No reason to believe his life wasn't in danger since no gunman ever is gonna be like "Hey! You with the camera. Take a bunch of pictures of me during this speech" | ||
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True_Spike
Poland3426 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:17 Orcasgt24 wrote: I think the photographer just chanced it and ended up being right. No reason to believe his life wasn't in danger since no gunman ever is gonna be like "Hey! You with the camera. Take a bunch of pictures of me during this speech" The photographer kept his cool and is gutsy for sure, but I do believe that's exactly what a terrorist would want the most - publicity. | ||
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Ppjack
Belgium489 Posts
we intervene in their country, military and more often than not humanitary... they scream against ingerence and how we should let them be sowereign colonialism and such. we don't do anything because geopolitics and diplomacy are more complicated than "do whatever you want", and they cry about not giving a shit about their country. and in the meantime we are supposed to welcome every bit of misery of the world, true or false, for economic purpose or legitimate humanitarian one. and they still shit on us on a regular basis and most of them fail to integrate and live outside of their own community.. what leads to a huge ressentment towards us. living in brussels is like being bipolar sometimes, guess we are fucked. (and if you add on top of that all the possible extreme leftist bullshit economically speaking, you know we are really in a bad state) and it comes from a guy who breath, work, dream, and fight for european union every day. damn (+christmas market in berlin) | ||
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:37 True_Spike wrote: The photographer kept his cool and is gutsy for sure, but I do believe that's exactly what a terrorist would want the most - publicity. Can this really be called "terrorism", when he explicitly did not kill any civilians? I understand that being an ambassador doesn't come with a "front line" job description, but it was a very clear political gesture, even if a little overboardly violent. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:40 opisska wrote: Can this really be called "terrorism", when he explicitly did not kill any civilians? I understand that being an ambassador doesn't come with a "front line" job description, but it was a very clear political gesture, even if a little overboardly violent. in english that is the very definition of terrorism. terrorism: the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims. | ||
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Ppjack
Belgium489 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:40 opisska wrote: Can this really be called "terrorism", when he explicitly did not kill any civilians? I understand that being an ambassador doesn't come with a "front line" job description, but it was a very clear political gesture, even if a little overboardly violent. it is terrorism, by the mean used and the purpose. A civilian attacking a military for political purposes and with use of extreme means is terrorism. Not even resistance, for some people will for sure spit this bullshit. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On December 20 2016 05:06 Sent. wrote: Does anyone know where was the Russian security? I assume Russian ambassadors have their own bodyguards, at least in countries where there is a high risk of terrorist attacks I think the killer made it clear that he's not going to shoot the reporters so one of them just used the opportunity to make photos of his life. Apparently the shooter was part of his security detail and/or an off-duty police officer. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
On December 20 2016 06:07 LegalLord wrote: Apparently the shooter was part of his security detail and/or an off-duty police officer. Nope, what I am reading says that the ambassador didn't have any security. The shooter was not supposed to be there as well. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/19/russias-ambassador-turkey-shot-assassination-attempt1/ Edit: It is actually the link the previous guy gave. | ||
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parkufarku
882 Posts
Beautiful country, but had to cancel family trip to there b/c of instability | ||
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Cricketer12
United States13990 Posts
On December 20 2016 02:34 ahswtini wrote: The attacker can be heard to shout "Allahu Akbar, don't forget Aleppo, don't forget about Syria, those responsible for these atrocities have to pay the price, only death can stop me" Bastard...Muslim leaders in the region are the ones you should be focusing on, pressuring into action. Fucking pointless killing is pointless... | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10258 Posts
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