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Veg
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada2945 Posts
November 02 2002 23:03 GMT
#1
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TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
November 02 2002 23:08 GMT
#2
urrrrrrr
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
Artenus
Profile Joined September 2002
United States162 Posts
November 02 2002 23:14 GMT
#3
<b class=quote>On November 03 2002 08:03 Veg wrote:</B><BR> GAYEST GAME EVER
boxer vs yellow
hall of valhalla
boxer does standart 1 rax tech to 2nd rax with acad and +1 attack
he drops yellow and manages to kill 1 of his 2 hatches, his pool and drones
the rest of the game was just boxer ownage ^^;
sooooo gay


lol ure gay =P jk anyways gg to both players and yellow tried hard to fight back but boxer was just too gosu for yellow to handle
soniq[ro]
Profile Joined October 2002
Romania40 Posts
November 02 2002 23:17 GMT
#4
fuck boxer he is a fucking retard ..
keke
Muhweli
Profile Joined September 2002
Finland5328 Posts
November 02 2002 23:19 GMT
#5
boxer ain't retard, but Artenus most certainly is. That game was fuckign sucky... wasn't it BO3 last year and BO5 the year before that [Slayer vs Boxer]? WHY THE FUCK IS IT ONE GAME THAT SOLVES THE WHOLE FUCKIGN CHAMPION FUCKIGN SHIP? Hmmmn, Makes Me wonder, why they picked an island map instead of some kinda ZERG oriented map instead of TERRAN... asdf suck suck... fuckign sUcK SuCk Well... It's 9:22 AM here, I think I'll be going to sleep....
River me timbers.
Powerpill
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States1693 Posts
November 02 2002 23:22 GMT
#6
They seriously need to re-evaluate their map selections for next year..(Valhalla for the Final TvZ... )
The pretty things are going to hell, they wore it out but they wore it well
Artenus
Profile Joined September 2002
United States162 Posts
November 02 2002 23:24 GMT
#7
ouch that hurts T_T y u gotta flame me like that =\
Zaphod
Profile Joined October 2002
Australia192 Posts
November 02 2002 23:47 GMT
#8
seriously map isnt that unfair
boxer was just better
he won and i think he deserved to win
btw in the double elim what map did they play on?
He who overcomes Will be dressed in white And i will not remove his name from the book of life And i give witness to him before my father
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
November 02 2002 23:48 GMT
#9
Half of the games between gosus getting decided by the map = ghey

Boxer is probably the best player overall, but not that much better than the rest, a lot of players can beat him. Funny last year all his important games vs toss users were on JS, this year decent luck (I hope only luck) with maps too

Great play under pressure by Boxer though, I am far more impressed by his performance this year than last year where he had a bit too much luck with maps/strats.
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Tassadar187
Profile Joined November 2002
Colombia1 Post
November 03 2002 00:03 GMT
#10
U fuckin idiots, first, they pick a random WCG map, 2nd, why is it 1 game? bcuz yellow was in loser brackets and he needed to beat boxer 2 times, and boxer only need to beat yellow 1 game. BOXER IS THE BEST
[OBK]RedcloaK
Profile Joined October 2002
United States49 Posts
November 03 2002 00:51 GMT
#11
The problem Tassadar is that the selection that the random map comes from has a number of very poor maps in it.

Boxer is the best yeah, but that doesn't mean the maps didn't have an influence in all kinds of matches.
w00t w00t ri0t
TeG-EviscEratoR
Profile Joined October 2002
Romania101 Posts
November 03 2002 00:54 GMT
#12
First map they played was Char - a map that doesn't favours terran in tvz.
Second map was Valhalla, a balanced map. Maybe in 2-3 years people will finally realise that Valhalla it's a fair map, not a protoss or terran one.
Don't get me wrong, I wanted Yellow to win this.
GG yes re.
TeG-EviscEratoR
Profile Joined October 2002
Romania101 Posts
November 03 2002 00:57 GMT
#13
Hmmm did you guys watched the broadcasting after the game was over? 'cause they said they will announce the official games for the next WCG at the WCG 2002 closeing ceremony.
GG yes re.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
Last Edited: 2002-11-03 01:02:11
November 03 2002 01:01 GMT
#14
Don't forget BoxeR also defeated (well... crushed) YellOw on Legacy of Char, and this one really is a Zerg map.

So BoxeR beat him twice, once on a Zerg-favoured map, then once on a Terran(/Protoss)-favoured map (some ppl find it balanced though). I think this is pretty much fair overall.

He just deserved to win.
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Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
November 03 2002 01:19 GMT
#15
Wow well didn't know he beat him on Char too. GJ well deserved at least vs yellow :D
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WesleyChoi
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2 Posts
November 03 2002 01:25 GMT
#16
ITS the MAP SELECTION, VAHALLA IS TERRAN MAP, THE FINAL SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON LOST TEMPLE!@#!@$@!@#@!#!@#@!#!@@@!#@!#
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TeG-EviscEratoR
Profile Joined October 2002
Romania101 Posts
November 03 2002 01:42 GMT
#17
Lost Temple is just a popular map. LT is really boring and the luck factor is high also. And you can do plenty more strats/tactics on other maps than LT.
I am glad they didn't play LT.
GG yes re.
RedMeat
Profile Joined September 2002
United Kingdom490 Posts
November 03 2002 02:55 GMT
#18
In my opinion then legacy of char is the same as lost temple only with all the start positions being equal, lost temple sucks. Also... no need to flame people and spam on this site, it's not broodwar.com . I wanted plains to hill to be in in the selection as I really love that map now , maybe next year .
I am the mirror, I am the destiny, I am the herald that points the way...
Wannasee
Profile Joined October 2002
United States175 Posts
November 03 2002 04:12 GMT
#19
Muhweli, it wasn't BO3 last year ^_^ It just kinda seemed that way because Boxer met Elky in Winners' final and then right after in the Winner's/Loser's final after Elky defeated Gorush in Loser's Final(didn't have to face him in first round of double elim like he did Yellow this year ^^'). And two years ago there was a Bo5 between Boxer and Slayer, but I that was exhibition I think. Gorush was the winner of WCG 2000 I believe. I think Boxer hadn't really arrived on the SC scene until after WCG qualifiers for that year were over, and I think Slayer was there for KBK at the time, so they thought it would be a nice lil exhibition event ^^ Confirmation on this, Mensrea or Waxangel? And thirdly, one of the greatest matches between Boxer and Yellow was on Vahalla(Game 1 of Coca Cola, that 55 minute classic ^_^). And up until this point, Yellow crushed all his terran opponents on Vahalla, both here, and the korea prelims, so I think people were anticipating another classic. Just a shame it didn't happen. But congrats to Boxer ^^ Hope he is still on SC next year to try for a 3rd ^_^
O_o?
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
November 03 2002 04:16 GMT
#20
I hope they replace boring lost temple with gaema gowan.

well, for whatever it's worth, maps where announced before the KO stage, and not picked to specially help Boxer.

http://www1.pro-gaming.de/modules.php?name=News&file=article&listday=30.10.2002&sid=1439

30-Oct-2002:

World Cyber Games
Maps for the next rounds are known now

Now the maps for the next rounds where announced:

For the games best 16:
Legacy of Char

For the games best 8:
winnerbracket: Hall of Valhalla
loserbracket: Jungle Story

For the games best 4:
winnerbracket: Legacy of Char
loserbracket: Jungle Story

For the semifinale:
winnerbracket: Lost Temple
loserbracket: Lost Temple

For the finale:
Hall of Valhalla

We can be sure that we will see quit exiting games, and maybe again some surprises.
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
Born)Slippy
Profile Joined October 2002
Norway1904 Posts
November 03 2002 04:19 GMT
#21
Ahh well, I think it's good that Europeans were able to show off a very high standard, at least.
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
November 03 2002 04:39 GMT
#22
Well if WCG was in Bulgaria boxer was going to have the worst possible maps against his strongest opponents and maps for the top 16 tourney were going to be adjusted according to the most probable opponents of Didi/Beast/Bykli until the final hahaha

(partly) joking but you get the idea

How did they draw the maps for groups/top 16?
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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
Last Edited: 2002-11-03 07:25:35
November 03 2002 07:22 GMT
#23
Boxer beat Yellow two times so just give him his props and end it. As for the map i hear everyone saying they should pick new maps but I dont see to many of you saying what maps they should uses next year(If there is BW at next years WCG anyway GO VOTE!!!). So go head people tell me What maps you put to replaces what they got now. I personal would only remove JS cuss i think its hard for toss in a TvP. Im not sure what map would replace it mayb biforst be nice(i love that map).HoV is about as blanced a islands map there is i think. I mean name one more blanced? Btw i have to beleave LT is one of the most blanced maps ever made. Seems like any race can win at any time on that map(i think u LT hates say it to make yourself look gosu lol). Then again wtf do i know im newb
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
November 03 2002 07:57 GMT
#24
i thought z was >>> p on Lt?
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
RedMeat
Profile Joined September 2002
United Kingdom490 Posts
November 03 2002 08:37 GMT
#25
I would swap lost temple for plains to hill as lost temple is just the same as legacy of char only without balanced start points (re. above). I would also be tempted to swap jungle story for gaema gowun/blade storm (tough choice) as I prefer to play protoss vs zerg on gaema gowun/blade storm than jungle story and zerg still have legacy of char to own on vs halls of valhalla for protoss to own on. Terran can play on any map which isn't completely flat so I'm not bothering to mention terran .
I am the mirror, I am the destiny, I am the herald that points the way...
TeG-EviscEratoR
Profile Joined October 2002
Romania101 Posts
November 03 2002 09:02 GMT
#26
<b class=quote>On November 03 2002 16:22 InToTheWannaB wrote:</B><BR> Boxer beat Yellow two times so just give him his props and end it. As for the map i hear everyone saying they should pick new maps but I dont see to many of you saying what maps they should uses next year(If there is BW at next years WCG anyway GO VOTE!!!). So go head people tell me What maps you put to replaces what they got now. I personal would only remove JS cuss i think its hard for toss in a TvP. Im not sure what map would replace it mayb biforst be nice(i love that map).HoV is about as blanced a islands map there is i think. I mean name one more blanced? Btw i have to beleave LT is one of the most blanced maps ever made. Seems like any race can win at any time on that map(i think u LT hates say it to make yourself look gosu lol). Then again wtf do i know im newb


There is no such thing "LT hates". You have to be kinda crazy to actualy hate a map. The thing is that LT is not a good competition map because there is too much luck factor involved and I am talking about the starting positions. LT is a broken map. It's not about likeing it or not.
GG yes re.
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
November 03 2002 09:23 GMT
#27
kinda ironic that before that match, yellow said in an interview that his week point in a game is econ control, and when people hit his econ he loses. Then first thing boxer does is rape ihs econ. Roflz
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
bASesinAtOR
Profile Joined November 2002
Bhutan1295 Posts
November 03 2002 09:58 GMT
#28
What many gamers have overlooked is the ability for someone to adapt to a map, situation, ect. Although Yellow is an excellent z user he made a mistake, and with that happening boxer took it to his advantage.

note: i didnt see replay and congradulate the both of them for amking it as far as they did

gg boxer and yellow
sike
Riho
Profile Joined October 2002
United States120 Posts
Last Edited: 2002-11-03 10:31:11
November 03 2002 10:30 GMT
#29
Boxer won

Naz or Grrrr should be there

Having a map decide, it's

JoSeZ Boxer

I need more of

insert useless important quote here using invisible ink
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
November 03 2002 12:00 GMT
#30
<b class=quote>On November 03 2002 13:39 Breeze wrote:</B><BR> Well if WCG was in Bulgaria boxer was going to have the worst possible maps against his strongest opponents and maps for the top 16 tourney were going to be adjusted according to the most probable opponents of Didi/Beast/Bykli until the final hahaha

(partly) joking but you get the idea

How did they draw the maps for groups/top 16?


PARTLY joking? You better be 100% joking, cuz that's bullshit. All this shit in the beginging after the bulgarians winning a couple matches about them being the shit and koreans looking "vulnerable". Look at the results, no bulgarians even advanced out of the first round and the koreans ended up 1-2 even though they faced each other in the 1st round of double elimination. I somehow knew there would be all these bullshit excuses. The maps were pre-selected for god sake. Lets just face the facts, the world is still a bit behind korea (we're catching up though) and lets stop being haters and recognize. Doesn't matter where the WCG was held, koreans > bulgarians.
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
November 03 2002 15:12 GMT
#31
well said
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
November 03 2002 15:36 GMT
#32
Is Starcraft in danger of not making the next WCG or the one after!!? If so, that's just stupid: Starcraft is real-time chess. Bleh.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
November 03 2002 17:15 GMT
#33
I'd like to know how many people accessed the WCG site for SC/BW information in comparision to the other games. It'd also be interesting to see how much traffic WCG had when it was a SC/BW match being broadcast as opposed to the other games.

My guess is that SC/BW got a lot more attention than any other game this year, and so it should be obvious to WCG that it shouldn't be taken out for next year. It'd be a ridiculous prospect.
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A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
November 03 2002 21:16 GMT
#34
I might be biased, but I don't think Starcraft should be ever taken out. Its timeless. Sure the graphics are probably a bit dated, but eh, gameplay is the still the best ever.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
Breeze
Profile Joined October 2002
Bulgaria989 Posts
November 03 2002 23:26 GMT
#35
tenbagger didn't Froz beat the winner of the wcg 2:0? Why do people like you always think that a way a tourney unfolds is the only possible way it could have gone, and the winner would have won no matter what. That's absolutely stupid. There were so many possibilities and luck played a big role as ever, even if the most probable winner won.

The maps/group draws had a huge role in both wcg's so far, even if the maps were all balanced we still have the groups: Two insane groups this year (B and D). I think if Junwi and Oddysay were in those groups instead of Boxer, half the koreans might have been out before top 16 just like last year. Two of the Bulgarians were in those groups and lost in playoffs, not to mention Bykli who isn't even top 10 in Bulgaria and wasn't supposed to be there, almost won group F and beat Oddysay too

A lot of nations have pretty strong teams and Bulgaria is one of them, nothing wrong about me cheering for them. It's not like I tell they own someone, they just could have gone far with some better luck. You're the hater for telling me I shouldn't support them, not me.
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