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Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13018 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-28 11:04:17
August 28 2015 11:03 GMT
#21
Do the Ogres twins still play competitively?
I don't follow the scene right now but I trust TL choices for their rosters, I might watch pro Halo again to see them perform .
WriterMaru
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
August 28 2015 11:15 GMT
#22
On August 28 2015 20:03 Poopi wrote:
Do the Ogres twins still play competitively?
I don't follow the scene right now but I trust TL choices for their rosters, I might watch pro Halo again to see them perform .

Ogre 1 is no longer playing but Ogre 2 is, he is currently on CLG.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
Advantageous
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
China1350 Posts
August 28 2015 17:40 GMT
#23
liquid had a halo team? wot
"Because I am BossToss" -MC ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your dongers ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ I'm sure that all of my fellow class mates viewed me as the Adonis of the Class of 2015 already. -Xenocider, EG, ieF 2013 Champion.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 28 2015 17:41 GMT
#24
wort*
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Stolker
Profile Joined March 2013
United States96 Posts
August 29 2015 07:01 GMT
#25
you should get M J Caboose on your team
KMART561
Profile Joined September 2014
United States24 Posts
August 29 2015 22:53 GMT
#26
On August 28 2015 09:28 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 09:16 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 28 2015 07:38 Larkin wrote:
On August 28 2015 07:30 atrox_ wrote:
not sure if this is just me being retarded, but, what happened? The change isn't very obvious


Spartan, Aries and Shooter were dropped, Ace, Chig and Mikwen were picked up.

This kind of thing happens all the time in pro Halo - back in the glory days, rosters used to change pretty much after every MLG.

It's a smart decision. I knew nothing about Spartan or Shooter, but Ace has established himself as one of the best players in the world, Chig has been around for a long time and is very solid, and Mikwen really established himself during the Halo Reach days. Add in Ninja who can dominate on his day and you have a very solid lineup indeed to challenge the big boys - though I still think EG is far and away the best team in Halo right now.

It's just such a damn shame they have to play such an awful Halo, and can't play one of the older ones. Hopefully Halo 5 is good, but I doubt it.

From what I have seen, 343 has yet to recreate the magic of Bungie's games. Unfortunately, I don't have high hopes for Halo 5. Best of luck to TL nonetheless.

Bungie isn't a literal god of game development if you take a closer look at their later titles, while 343 outside of MCC's fuck ups, has been consistently doing some good job regarding Halo 5. Namely:

Commitment to 60fps, and their technical prowess showed in that with a stable performance from analysis of the gamescom build.
Mobility, the new thruster abilities made a huge difference and added an great layer of skill ceiling.
Weapon diversity, AR/Pistol start being viable? Unheard of since CE.
Reduced aim assist: a change long overdue, let the player's skill shine.


I hate when I see people like you who go around stating your opinions of halo as fact. Fact is bungies Halo games were popular and worked out of the box, 343s have not.

Thrust pack doesn't raise any skill gap, it allows for people to make bad decisions and get away with it the same as sprint that's why we as the competitive halo community want sprint taken out and will live with thrust.

They don't have split screen on h5 and they are releasing the game with no big team battle maps, they screwed up in halo 4 and the master chief collection launch was a failure and doomed the game before it had a chance to grow.

Aim assist is the least of anybodies worries, there was heavy aim assist in Halo 1,2 and 3 and those games were by far the most successful. Weapon diversity is good as long as your automatic weapons that don't as much skill to use as your single fire weapon are toned down, right now 343 had the automatics so powerful from mid to short range even somewhat long you can melt an overshield.

I get you're one of the sprint fanboys and all that but don't speak about skill gap when you are not a competitive player and don't have hands on experience with the latest build of H5. Thank you.
Halo on the come up!!! woot woot -__-
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
August 30 2015 00:44 GMT
#27
On August 30 2015 07:53 KMART561 wrote:
I hate when I see people like you who go around stating your opinions of halo as fact. Fact is bungies Halo games were popular and worked out of the box, 343s have not.

I don't even know how to take this. Do you spend a lot of time angry at yourself?
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
August 30 2015 18:26 GMT
#28
On August 30 2015 09:44 Cyx. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2015 07:53 KMART561 wrote:
I hate when I see people like you who go around stating your opinions of halo as fact. Fact is bungies Halo games were popular and worked out of the box, 343s have not.

I don't even know how to take this. Do you spend a lot of time angry at yourself?

While the first sentence is questionable, pretty much all his points are valid. Most of the changes 343 has tried have made the competitive scene worse. Trying to make power weapons into drops, booster, buffing the AR, headboxes that are larger than they really should be; they all lower the skill needed to kill a good player. That's why none of these things should be in competitive game types when they get made.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
August 31 2015 01:23 GMT
#29
On August 30 2015 07:53 KMART561 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2015 09:28 digmouse wrote:
On August 28 2015 09:16 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 28 2015 07:38 Larkin wrote:
On August 28 2015 07:30 atrox_ wrote:
not sure if this is just me being retarded, but, what happened? The change isn't very obvious


Spartan, Aries and Shooter were dropped, Ace, Chig and Mikwen were picked up.

This kind of thing happens all the time in pro Halo - back in the glory days, rosters used to change pretty much after every MLG.

It's a smart decision. I knew nothing about Spartan or Shooter, but Ace has established himself as one of the best players in the world, Chig has been around for a long time and is very solid, and Mikwen really established himself during the Halo Reach days. Add in Ninja who can dominate on his day and you have a very solid lineup indeed to challenge the big boys - though I still think EG is far and away the best team in Halo right now.

It's just such a damn shame they have to play such an awful Halo, and can't play one of the older ones. Hopefully Halo 5 is good, but I doubt it.

From what I have seen, 343 has yet to recreate the magic of Bungie's games. Unfortunately, I don't have high hopes for Halo 5. Best of luck to TL nonetheless.

Bungie isn't a literal god of game development if you take a closer look at their later titles, while 343 outside of MCC's fuck ups, has been consistently doing some good job regarding Halo 5. Namely:

Commitment to 60fps, and their technical prowess showed in that with a stable performance from analysis of the gamescom build.
Mobility, the new thruster abilities made a huge difference and added an great layer of skill ceiling.
Weapon diversity, AR/Pistol start being viable? Unheard of since CE.
Reduced aim assist: a change long overdue, let the player's skill shine.


there was heavy aim assist in Halo 1,2 and 3 the most successful.



There was next to no aim assist in Halo CE, then they added a decent amount more in Halo 2 and more still in Halo 3 (which suffered more due to latency and the lack of hitscan), then for Reach it became casual city where anyone could 5shot with the DMR or snipe like Snipedown.
https://www.twitch.tv/ttalarkin - streams random stuff, high level teamleague, maybe even heroleague
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
August 31 2015 01:33 GMT
#30
super excited about the new tl roster. I loved everyone on the old squad and I'm going to miss them but this new team will hopefully do big things.

I really want halo 5 to be a great game. I'm not too confident in 343 but who knows, maybe they get it right.

Halo 1 also had less aim assist but quite a bit of bullet magnetism
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HeatEXTEND
Profile Joined October 2012
Netherlands836 Posts
August 31 2015 05:57 GMT
#31
On August 28 2015 13:16 digmouse wrote:

The new pistol is amazing, it is a completely viable utility weapon even against BR and DMR, I've seen plenty of scenarios when pros choosing to keep the pistol in favor of a BR or DMR, the weapon variety right now is fantastic.


*old pistol :p
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