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Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11557 Posts
June 05 2019 00:06 GMT
#1221
So...
#Canadian Nuremberg Trials 2020, anyone?

The thing that bothers me the most about this inquiry is that it seems to have lost the plot on actually discovering the dead and missing women part. They throw shade on the RCMP report in 2013, but provide no study of their own that demonstrates why the RCMP report is no good.

It doesn't really seem like they discovered anything new except to compile a series of anecdotes to justify a whole battery of changes, including sneaking in Universal Basic Income.
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-05 03:50:41
June 05 2019 03:50 GMT
#1222
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced hundreds of millions of dollars in new foreign-aid spending for sexual, reproductive, maternal and child health on Tuesday, helping to fill a global funding gap left by the United States’ rescinding of international abortion spending.

Mr. Trudeau said Canada must push back against attacks on women’s rights, particularly abortion rights, at home and abroad. Canada will fund this effort by gradually increasing its international funding for women and girls’ health and rights to $1.4-billion annually in 2023 and maintaining that yearly amount until 2030. Half of that yearly spending will be dedicated to sexual and reproductive needs. That is up from $1.1-billion spent right now, $400-million of which is spent on sexual and reproductive needs.

“There are politicians here in Canada who have called our government’s investments ‘exporting an ideological agenda.’ Well, we couldn’t disagree more,” Mr. Trudeau told Women Deliver, an international conference that brings together world leaders, advocates and academics from more than 165 countries.

“This should not be a political issue. These divisions are playing out globally with devastating consequences and women deserve better.”

www.theglobeandmail.com
2023? Interesting use of tax payer money to fill in the gap left by the US.
© Current year.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11557 Posts
June 05 2019 14:43 GMT
#1223
That man cannot spend money he doesn't have fast enough.
ModeratorDavid Duke, Richard Spencer, Nick Fuentes, Daily Stormer... "Some very fine people on both sides"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17622 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-05 15:17:16
June 05 2019 15:14 GMT
#1224
On June 05 2019 23:43 Falling wrote:
That man cannot spend money he doesn't have fast enough.

In the Ontario election the NDP and Liberals got into a bidding war in a contest to see who could give away the most stuff for free with money they didn't have. Surprise, Surprise, the Tories won.

I'm glad to see the US Federal Reserve is going to cut interest rates. That's good news for Canada.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/05/former-fed-governor-on-powell-speech-possible-us-interest-rate-cuts.html
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 05 2019 15:23 GMT
#1225
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CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
June 05 2019 17:58 GMT
#1226
On June 06 2019 00:23 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2019 23:43 Falling wrote:
That man cannot spend money he doesn't have fast enough.


I think he is really trying to get back the image he had of being this force for "good" that the corruption scandals have taken him away from. While it is hard to argue with the "cause" it does reek of a expensive public relations move and desperation. I would be really interested in what the impact is.

JWR already announced shes running as an independent and shes leading in the polls too.
© Current year.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 05 2019 18:50 GMT
#1227
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-13 23:10:41
June 13 2019 23:07 GMT
#1228
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5174482

So we got rid of the carbon tax, and now Ottowa is introducing one for us, fml.

Says 90% of the carbon tax will go to family, or $888 for a family of four. Do you guys know how it's working, will you get money if you don't have kids? If you dont, this is some number one bullshit.

A Fuck Trudeau sticker is getting closer and closer to being put on my car.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 02 2019 03:56 GMT
#1229
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Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
July 02 2019 15:14 GMT
#1230
On July 02 2019 12:56 JimmiC wrote:
Happy Canad day all!

We have our issues, and the political scene is a mess. But it could be a hell of a lot worse. I'm proud to be here, proud to stay here and will work to make it better.

Here is to Canada a great, and working to improve nation.


Here Here
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
July 02 2019 22:21 GMT
#1231
On June 14 2019 08:07 FiWiFaKi wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5174482

So we got rid of the carbon tax, and now Ottowa is introducing one for us, fml.

Says 90% of the carbon tax will go to family, or $888 for a family of four. Do you guys know how it's working, will you get money if you don't have kids? If you dont, this is some number one bullshit.

A Fuck Trudeau sticker is getting closer and closer to being put on my car.
Yes, you will. Every person gets a certain amount in the form of a rebate (I got around $250 I think? Everyone else I know has received something around there for a rebate) but then you pay what amounts to a dollar or two in taxes per tank of gas. The idea is that if you cut down the amount of gas you use, you end up ahead and have more money since the rebate offsets the additional cost at the pump. If you fuel up often enough or drive a big vehicle so you blow through the entire rebate amount in extra taxes, you end up paying more taxes.

The entire point of the thing is to encourage people to drive less and drive vehicles that use less fuel. With my car (I drive a hatchback), if I drove as much as I used to I'd still probably end up netting an extra $200 a year because I refueled once or twice a month max. If you drive a big gas guzzler Tahoe that needs 75L of gas a week, the rebate probably won't last all that long, but that's the whole point of the thing.

On July 02 2019 12:56 JimmiC wrote:
Happy Canada day all!

We have our issues, and the political scene is a mess. But it could be a hell of a lot worse. I'm proud to be here, proud to stay here and will work to make it better.

Here is to Canada a great, and working to improve nation.
Strongly agree!
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
July 05 2019 03:11 GMT
#1232
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
July 05 2019 18:31 GMT
#1233
CBC has a more detailed article on what Kenney is alleging and has responses from the environmental groups he is accusing.

Having read up a bit on what the situation he's claiming is, this seems more like an attempt to deflect blame for the oilfields declining onto someone else and playing the victim rather than acknowledging that the decline was caused by other reasons. One of the environmental groups he's blaming has no idea why he is doing so (they are a clean energy group but haven't campaigned against the oilfields at all) and countered his accusation by pointing out that they have a breakdown of their financials online that show that they get the extreme majority of their money from the various levels of government.

To me, this just looks like a political stunt to distract PC supporters away from actual issues. A much more useful investigation would be to look into what policies encouraged the oilfields to be built and financed in such an unsustainable way in the first place, and what can be done to help bring the industry back while discouraging the reckless behaviour that ended up harming the industry once the price of oil went down.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
gotchaman
Profile Joined May 2019
18 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-05 23:06:29
July 05 2019 23:06 GMT
#1234
Canadians should stop trying to cook their golden goose oil industry with endless regulatory bureaucracy.
The entire country prospers from Alberta's oil through existing taxation and transfers.
The goose stays alive while Canadian regulations do not ridiculously exceed American regulations.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17622 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-07-09 10:05:38
July 09 2019 10:01 GMT
#1235
on the topic of Canada's greatness.

John Tory is a great mayor for Toronto. Hazel Mccallion continues to do a great job in her limited political role.

The Toronto police did a great job over a 2.5 week time period after the Raptors clinched a spot in the finals. There were giant street parties everywhere after every Raptors win during the finals. I was worried about the 1 point game 5 loss that there might be some large scale ugliness. That never happened though. The Toronto police did an all around great job. They enforced the law within reason during the 2.5 weeks of craziness. Everyone is all over the cops when they muck something up. Its only fair to give them credit when they do a great job. Well done Toronto Cops!

On July 06 2019 08:06 gotchaman wrote:
Canadians should stop trying to cook their golden goose oil industry with endless regulatory bureaucracy.
The entire country prospers from Alberta's oil through existing taxation and transfers.
The goose stays alive while Canadian regulations do not ridiculously exceed American regulations.

ya ... good point.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11557 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-15 20:29:01
August 15 2019 20:02 GMT
#1236
Trudeau regarding SNC-Lavalin, "The allegations in the Globe story are false"
Also Trudeau: "I take full responsibility"
At the same time: "I'm not going to apologize"

That man speaks out of so many sides of his mouth, I think he needs a second

...and he's been stonewalling the ethics commission the entire time:

All of this cries out for further inquiry, not least because even the ethics commissioner, despite his best efforts, found himself repeatedly stonewalled by the prime minister’s office. It took 49 days to deliver the first batch of documents he requested; 108 days to deliver the second. The prime minister and his officials suffered a number of convenient memory lapses.

And: “nine witnesses informed our office that they had information they believed to be relevant, but that could not be disclosed.” Why? Because of cabinet confidence — the same cabinet confidence that was supposedly waived in February. So, starting in March, the ethics commissioner raised the matter with both the prime minister and his deputy, the Clerk of the Privy Council, asking that the witnesses be allowed to testify, with a promise that the information they provided would not be disclosed publicly. His request was denied.


https://nationalpost.com/opinion/andrew-coyne-conflict-of-interest-the-least-of-concerns-raised-by-snc-lavalin-affair
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-16 00:04:32
August 16 2019 00:01 GMT
#1237
That's an Andrew Coyne National Post opinion piece. I would take anything he says with a cow salt lick-sized grain of salt. He's had a history of exaggerating the wrongdoings of the Liberals and NDP while happily turning a blind eye to anything bad the Conservatives do and puffing them up as the greatest thing ever.

Having said that, I don't agree with what Trudeau and the PMO did, though I do understand their argument in why they did it. The intent of wanting to use a DPA makes sense because of how serious of the ramifications of SNC going under could be to the economy, but their handling of dealing with JWR was quite unacceptable.

One thing I can say for sure though, is in the same position I am 100% confident Scheer and the Conservatives would likely have done the same thing. The previous Conservative government, and especially the PMO, wasn't afraid of doing things that could easily be called questionable. The F-35 Procurement Scandal, Senate Expense Scandal, and the Robocall Scandal all come to mind. Everything around the F-35 scandal was particularly ugly and has made the Liberal scandals seem rather minor in comparison.

I wish the NDP weren't in complete disarray right now. I think they'd have a real chance of winning if this were 2015 NDP before they completely fell apart. Scheer is not even remotely popular and the Conservatives have brought absolutely nothing policy-wise to the table and the Liberals have been competent but plagued by bad decision-making. Sadly, people just don't seem enthusiastic about the current NDP. Their platform is decent but not enough to bring them back, and there just isn't the same enthusiasm for Singh as there was for people like Jack Layton.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 20 2019 15:20 GMT
#1238
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17622 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-20 18:27:48
August 20 2019 17:31 GMT
#1239
On August 16 2019 09:01 Ben... wrote:
I wish the NDP weren't in complete disarray right now. I think they'd have a real chance of winning if this were 2015 NDP before they completely fell apart. Scheer is not even remotely popular and the Conservatives have brought absolutely nothing policy-wise to the table and the Liberals have been competent but plagued by bad decision-making. Sadly, people just don't seem enthusiastic about the current NDP. Their platform is decent but not enough to bring them back, and there just isn't the same enthusiasm for Singh as there was for people like Jack Layton.

I met Ed Broadbent a few years ago waiting in line at the Delicatesan beneath Net Effect Internet Lounge near Isabella and Yonge in Toronto. The guy just oozes charisma.

Canada's political parties no longer attract top notch minds. It was a small part of the reason I moved to upstate New York.

I do not foresee a bright future for Canada because it no longer has great leadership. I think P.E.T, Mulroney, and Chretien were great. Since then... its been pretty mediocre.
On August 16 2019 09:01 Ben... wrote:
the Liberals have been competent but plagued by bad decision-making.

i agree. the liberals have been competent in most areas. i thought the liberals did a nice job negotiating the USMCA. Unfortunately, its still not in force.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17622 Posts
August 30 2019 12:33 GMT
#1240
uhhh, what the hell is Kim Campbell doing? LOL. Managing Canada//US relations is an onerous task and this doesn't help.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/08/30/ex-canadian-prime-minister-roots-dorian-hit-trump-mar-lago/2161886001/

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