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randommuch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States370 Posts
January 22 2013 02:49 GMT
#15501
On January 22 2013 09:04 paper121 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 08:38 smurfaccount420 wrote:
hi everyone. i just have a few questions which you guys have probably heard 50 million times but i trust you guys way more than random information on the internet. i'm a 16 year old high school student and i've never used any substances before, i've just been thinking lately about whether i wanted to start smoking. during the last year i've tried to be really chill and peaceful with everyone, and i figure i could do that a lot better and also be more happy myself if i started smoking weed. i live in a pretty high class suburban neighborhood so a lot of kids at my school do it.

how much self control does it really take to smoke weed in moderation? i've always had good self control in the past with things like video games but i just wanted to consult my favorite forum about whether or not it could legitimately screw me up. any indirectly related advice is welcome too.

thanks <3


hey man, wait til your 18 or even a little later, recent study by Duke on their NZ study group found correlation between adolscent usage and reduced iq. Counters to the arguement are the usual socio-economic stuff but no reason to not play on the safe side, I know plenty of kids that are just burnt out cause they started as early as 13( not sure cause stopped learning from being high all the time or actually cause weed detrimental to iq). Point is, just wait til your brain is fully developed to play it safe, then you can be philosopher smoker, and not the dimwit image people associate with pot.


That study was debunked for the exact reason you said... socio-economic factors. There has been no correlation to show marijuana, the drug itself, lowers iq numbers. A better way to put it would be if you spend your teen years involved with pot you're going to make a habit of it and focus on weed stuff rather than school factors. Not saying 100% of your focus but it does take away from it, i mean cmon, it's fun to get high and not study lol.
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
January 22 2013 02:53 GMT
#15502
I started smoking at 15, and if I found regret useful, I'd probably prefer that I had waited a bit. That being said, exposure to drug culture is one of the best ways for a young mind to see the cracks in the veneer of our polite, conventional society; unfortunately, not everyone is suited to undertaking that process (regardless of age), and I'm fairly certain that any pothead or casual drug user knows this very thing all too well. I've seen my enjoyment and relatively appropriate "handling of things" while doing drugs contrast very strongly with my friends who did them with me, and accordingly I've lost some very close friends who, for lack of a better phrase, just could not handle their shit. As such, I think it is very difficult to recommend someone undertake experiences with drug use without having at least a competent familiarity with their personality.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 22 2013 02:56 GMT
#15503
"Know Thyself!"
shikata ga nai
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 22 2013 21:10 GMT
#15504
Hurray, got my Da Buddha vapourizer and just finished my first sesh. Unfortunate that the weed I have is utter crap, but I suppose it's good that I don't have to smoke it and have a lot of it (and it was free). I could barely stand the taste of that crap. Much better vapourizing it ^^
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
January 22 2013 21:19 GMT
#15505
Yup. Im high. I was smoking at the balcony(12th floor here) and my joint fell and entered an apartment (i think it was 5 or 6 floor) and that made me realize how one little gust of wind may have had some kid falsely accused by his conservative father of smoking pot, and that made me realize how things can be chaotic and without any good explanation in our lives. But yeah if they're clever they'll realize it was someone from the building.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
January 22 2013 21:30 GMT
#15506
On January 23 2013 06:19 Alpino wrote:
Yup. Im high. I was smoking at the balcony(12th floor here) and my joint fell and entered an apartment (i think it was 5 or 6 floor) and that made me realize how one little gust of wind may have had some kid falsely accused by his conservative father of smoking pot, and that made me realize how things can be chaotic and without any good explanation in our lives. But yeah if they're clever they'll realize it was someone from the building.

I find it amusing that the dropping of the joint inspired a contemplation of mistaken weed smoking instead of mistaken arson
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Bourneq
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Sweden800 Posts
January 22 2013 21:44 GMT
#15507
On January 23 2013 06:30 farvacola wrote:
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On January 23 2013 06:19 Alpino wrote:
Yup. Im high. I was smoking at the balcony(12th floor here) and my joint fell and entered an apartment (i think it was 5 or 6 floor) and that made me realize how one little gust of wind may have had some kid falsely accused by his conservative father of smoking pot, and that made me realize how things can be chaotic and without any good explanation in our lives. But yeah if they're clever they'll realize it was someone from the building.

I find it amusing that the dropping of the joint inspired a contemplation of mistaken weed smoking instead of mistaken arson

Well, unless the balcony was flooded with gasoline I cant see how a joint could cause a fire. The papers are ussualy designed so they put themselfs out if nobody is inhaling.
Srontgorrth
Profile Joined August 2012
United States204 Posts
January 22 2013 21:53 GMT
#15508
just began a hiatus from pot... i've gone the past six years without taking a break of more than four or five days. here i am on this self-imposed hiatus for three months! i will make my triumphant return to smoking on april 20. put one in the air for me guys, i wish i could but i gotta focus on more important things for now
"i think that message boards were created so that shy people could be assholes"
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
January 22 2013 21:59 GMT
#15509
I got really high this morning, and I went to the movies with people from my college to see a film in german, and let me tell you one thing :

It was just brilliant.

And I don't even speak german, but at one point there's like the father of the main characters who dies and then me and my stoned friends just start crying, but then they all come together and one of them says something like " I'm staying here " and then you can see the joy on their faces and then I cry again because it's so amazing.

I should watch movies in a foreign language more often.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
drooL
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2108 Posts
January 22 2013 22:10 GMT
#15510
On January 23 2013 06:59 GregMandel wrote:
I got really high this morning, and I went to the movies with people from my college to see a film in german, and let me tell you one thing :

It was just brilliant.

And I don't even speak german, but at one point there's like the father of the main characters who dies and then me and my stoned friends just start crying, but then they all come together and one of them says something like " I'm staying here " and then you can see the joy on their faces and then I cry again because it's so amazing.

I should watch movies in a foreign language more often.


Which movie was it?
@nowSimon
Lucidx
Profile Joined December 2010
United States122 Posts
January 22 2013 22:32 GMT
#15511
Just smoked a nice bowl and am now writing songs on my guitar. Feels so easy.
" I would rather get AIDS then get hit by a bus then have my expansion blocked by a pylon" - Day[9]
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
January 22 2013 22:33 GMT
#15512
Been high for 2 days, pretty great/.
ECHOZs
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States499 Posts
January 22 2013 22:34 GMT
#15513
Holy shit, after reading some of the responses Im now higher lol
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 22:43:04
January 22 2013 22:39 GMT
#15514
On January 23 2013 07:10 drooL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 06:59 GregMandel wrote:
I got really high this morning, and I went to the movies with people from my college to see a film in german, and let me tell you one thing :

It was just brilliant.

And I don't even speak german, but at one point there's like the father of the main characters who dies and then me and my stoned friends just start crying, but then they all come together and one of them says something like " I'm staying here " and then you can see the joy on their faces and then I cry again because it's so amazing.

I should watch movies in a foreign language more often.


Which movie was it?

Allmanya ( not sure bout the spelling )
Twas to celebrate the friendship between our countries man, 50 years today GG

It's about turkish immigrants, but it's some really indie movie, because it's a " Theater of Art & Essay " they don't serve you some Avengers or Transformers in there, only unknown movies from unknown countries :-p

Edit : http://www.imdb.fr/title/tt1630027/
Found it !
You guys should watch this if you are interested into germany, it's kinda like Little miss sunshine, but less crazy, and I really enjoyed it while high and not speaking half a word of german !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
Fuego
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom166 Posts
January 22 2013 23:43 GMT
#15515
On January 23 2013 06:19 Alpino wrote:
Yup. Im high. I was smoking at the balcony(12th floor here) and my joint fell and entered an apartment (i think it was 5 or 6 floor) and that made me realize how one little gust of wind may have had some kid falsely accused by his conservative father of smoking pot, and that made me realize how things can be chaotic and without any good explanation in our lives. But yeah if they're clever they'll realize it was someone from the building.


"They say that every action, no matter how small, can cause a whole chain of events. Something as simple as dropping a joint out of the window can spark a whole new realm of possibilities".
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
January 23 2013 00:59 GMT
#15516
I'm not actually high, I just couldn't find a relevant place to post my dumb ass questions. So I was thinking: the bottom of the ocean is dark. No light. Every creature there is a fucking monstrosity, so ugly. But then you come into the realms of light where developed animals (specifically thinking birds and mammals) are much more aesthetic. These animals can see each other, so they can select partners for good looks. Does this mean there is some objective notion of beauty? Or do we just think mammals and birds and more aesthetic because we're developed as part of the light-dwelling kingdoms so our idea of beauty is in sync with theirs.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 23 2013 01:00 GMT
#15517
brilliant question
shikata ga nai
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 23 2013 01:05 GMT
#15518
On January 23 2013 09:59 bardtown wrote:
I'm not actually high, I just couldn't find a relevant place to post my dumb ass questions. So I was thinking: the bottom of the ocean is dark. No light. Every creature there is a fucking monstrosity, so ugly. But then you come into the realms of light where developed animals (specifically thinking birds and mammals) are much more aesthetic. These animals can see each other, so they can select partners for good looks. Does this mean there is some objective notion of beauty? Or do we just think mammals and birds and more aesthetic because we're developed as part of the light-dwelling kingdoms so our idea of beauty is in sync with theirs.


do you think the water down there finds you attractive?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 01:15:03
January 23 2013 01:14 GMT
#15519
On January 23 2013 09:59 bardtown wrote:
I'm not actually high, I just couldn't find a relevant place to post my dumb ass questions. So I was thinking: the bottom of the ocean is dark. No light. Every creature there is a fucking monstrosity, so ugly. But then you come into the realms of light where developed animals (specifically thinking birds and mammals) are much more aesthetic. These animals can see each other, so they can select partners for good looks. Does this mean there is some objective notion of beauty? Or do we just think mammals and birds and more aesthetic because we're developed as part of the light-dwelling kingdoms so our idea of beauty is in sync with theirs.


When u constructed this idea did u analyze that u picturing every aquatic amphibian as a monster might not be commun conception and it is just that u find aquatic amphibian not good looking. I find aquatic animals to have a sense of beauty.

What is beauty even, i think ur talking about good looks here, which alot of people mistake with beauty. Like say u see this gorgeous girl walking by. U go talk to her, u realize right there that she has no grace, doesn't have anything interesting to talk, has no passion about anything etc...

U then realize that she is not beautifull, she might be hot have good looks, good body but without grace and speech there is no beauty just sex.

I would go on but i have finals to study for, good luck in your head
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 01:19:29
January 23 2013 01:18 GMT
#15520
On January 23 2013 09:59 bardtown wrote:
I'm not actually high, I just couldn't find a relevant place to post my dumb ass questions. So I was thinking: the bottom of the ocean is dark. No light. Every creature there is a fucking monstrosity, so ugly. But then you come into the realms of light where developed animals (specifically thinking birds and mammals) are much more aesthetic. These animals can see each other, so they can select partners for good looks. Does this mean there is some objective notion of beauty? Or do we just think mammals and birds and more aesthetic because we're developed as part of the light-dwelling kingdoms so our idea of beauty is in sync with theirs.

I'll bite and answer seriously, though I would hope you expected what you got.

Symmetry seems to be one thing that's as close to objective as I think you're going to get. Symmetry indicates proper development which indicates good genes & nutrition. Obviously animals in the dark can't see symmetry like we do, so that may actually be a reason they look uglier to us than land animals. I do think that our familiarity with the light dwelling world is probably the main contributor, though.
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