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bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
January 23 2013 01:41 GMT
#15521
On January 23 2013 10:18 Myles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 09:59 bardtown wrote:
I'm not actually high, I just couldn't find a relevant place to post my dumb ass questions. So I was thinking: the bottom of the ocean is dark. No light. Every creature there is a fucking monstrosity, so ugly. But then you come into the realms of light where developed animals (specifically thinking birds and mammals) are much more aesthetic. These animals can see each other, so they can select partners for good looks. Does this mean there is some objective notion of beauty? Or do we just think mammals and birds and more aesthetic because we're developed as part of the light-dwelling kingdoms so our idea of beauty is in sync with theirs.

I'll bite and answer seriously, though I would hope you expected what you got.

Symmetry seems to be one thing that's as close to objective as I think you're going to get. Symmetry indicates proper development which indicates good genes & nutrition. Obviously animals in the dark can't see symmetry like we do, so that may actually be a reason they look uglier to us than land animals. I do think that our familiarity with the light dwelling world is probably the main contributor, though.


I didn't expect it, but it made me lol. They're typically symmetrical even in the deep waters, because it's functionally useful as well as aesthetic.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 23 2013 05:54 GMT
#15522
Drinking is a class I did not flunk.
I'm a Colt 45-certified drunk.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
January 23 2013 05:56 GMT
#15523
On January 23 2013 14:54 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Drinking is a class I did not flunk.
I'm a Colt 45-certified drunk.

No no no, you mean

Well my name is afroman and I'm from east pomdale (east-pom-dale)
and all the tolweed I be smokin is bomb as helllllll (excelent delivery)
I don't beleive in Hitler, that's what I said (oh my goodness)
so all of you skins (skins) please give me more head

"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 06:05:54
January 23 2013 06:04 GMT
#15524
On January 23 2013 14:56 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 14:54 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Drinking is a class I did not flunk.
I'm a Colt 45-certified drunk.

No no no, you mean

Well my name is afroman and I'm from east pomdale (east-pom-dale)
and all the tolweed I be smokin is bomb as helllllll (excelent delivery)
I don't beleive in Hitler, that's what I said (oh my goodness)
so all of you skins (skins) please give me more head


Baby I beg your pardon, but you're outfit's givin me a hard-on
Maybe some way, maybe some how, you can dance with me, right here right now
Been lookin at you all night long, now the DJ's playing my favorite song
Everything is spendid, don't mean no harm; don't get offended when I pull your arm
I aint felt this good since I don't know when, and I might not feel this good again
It's friday night, beautiful weather, let's get drunk together.

EDIT: RAILING ADDERALL
booya!
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
January 23 2013 21:23 GMT
#15525
the company I work for got bought up by another company, so we're changing name and some organization and all that. do tests generally occur during these events?
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 22:50:20
January 23 2013 22:49 GMT
#15526
On January 24 2013 06:23 TOCHMY wrote:
the company I work for got bought up by another company, so we're changing name and some organization and all that. do tests generally occur during these events?

For this scenario, I would have to assume yes, but that's because I'm paranoid. Then again, I don't know how regularly people are tested in Sweden/how much of a big deal it is in the job world.

Safe bet: explore the legal alternatives ;p nitrous oxide, dextromethorphan, salvia (depending on the area, law-wise,) or any drug that won't show up on a urinalysis (I assume this would be the method?)
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
January 23 2013 23:09 GMT
#15527
smoking some Amnesia Haze atm, goood stuff :D
Fuego
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom166 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 23:19:33
January 23 2013 23:19 GMT
#15528
On January 24 2013 06:23 TOCHMY wrote:
the company I work for got bought up by another company, so we're changing name and some organization and all that. do tests generally occur during these events?


Was it mentioned anywhere in your original contract that the company reserves the right to conduct random drug tests? Because if it wasn't then you have nothing to worry about until you sign a new contract. If it was then you may be in for a test, but it could happen at any point, or not at all. Hopefully this excerpt should help you avoid testing positive:

"Limitations of Drug Tests
Because marijuana stays in the bloodstream for a short time, blood tests for marijuana are usually not used, except in the case of automobile accidents and some roadside sobriety check points. Blood or saliva tests can show current intoxication. However, unlike blood alcohol concentration tests, they do not indicate a level of intoxication or impairment.

On the other hand, urine tests for marijuana metabolites can only show recent marijuana use, not intoxication or impairment, because of the time required between smoking and the metabolites being eliminated in the urine. However, because many employers have a zero tolerance for drug use, most workplaces use urine tests for any recent use of drugs.

How Long Can Marijuana Be Detected?
Some THC metabolites have an elimination half-life of 20 hours. However, some are stored in body fat and have a elimination half-life of 10 to 13 days. Most researchers agree that urine tests for marijuana can detect the presence of the drug in the body for up to 13 days."
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
January 23 2013 23:22 GMT
#15529
Why do you guys do drugs? Don't mean to come across as condescending, but what do you gain from them? I've never done anything besides a little alcohol here and there, so obviously I don't get "it".

This is mainly for curiosity, not because i'm trying to get into drugs of any sort whether it's pot or crystal meth. Perhaps it's my genes or my upbringing, but i've never had ANY desire to get drunk or high. Maybe i'm just weird lol, but i don't understand the attraction to drugs.

Is it just to feel good? To get away from the problems in your life? Other things i can't think of? I'm genuinly interested and I hope i didn't come across in the wrong way.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
January 23 2013 23:25 GMT
#15530
On January 24 2013 06:23 TOCHMY wrote:
the company I work for got bought up by another company, so we're changing name and some organization and all that. do tests generally occur during these events?


Guess it depends on how many employees there are and wich branch it is related to.

i didn't smoke over the last 2 weeks and magically my starcaft 2 'skills' are now there where they were at best during the last two years + beta, i have improved! D:

'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
January 23 2013 23:31 GMT
#15531
On January 24 2013 08:22 darthfoley wrote:
Why do you guys do drugs? Don't mean to come across as condescending, but what do you gain from them? I've never done anything besides a little alcohol here and there, so obviously I don't get "it".

This is mainly for curiosity, not because i'm trying to get into drugs of any sort whether it's pot or crystal meth. Perhaps it's my genes or my upbringing, but i've never had ANY desire to get drunk or high. Maybe i'm just weird lol, but i don't understand the attraction to drugs.

Is it just to feel good? To get away from the problems in your life? Other things i can't think of? I'm genuinly interested and I hope i didn't come across in the wrong way.

It depends, "drugs" is a very vague term that ranges from weed, or coffee to LSD, or heroin, or whatever alters your mind.

In some cases it's like a trip to somewhere else, except you don't move. You see things you wouldn't see normally, or think things you wouldn't normally think. It satisfies both curiosity and the desire to have fun - because in some cases, random and weird things can be very fun.
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 00:02:18
January 24 2013 00:02 GMT
#15532
On January 24 2013 08:22 darthfoley wrote:
Why do you guys do drugs?


herodotus wrote
It is also their general practice to deliberate upon affairs of weight
when they are drunk; and then on the morrow, when they are sober,
the decision to which they came the night before is put before them
by the master of the house in which it was made; and if it is then
approved of, they act on it; if not, they set it aside. Sometimes,
however, they are sober at their first deliberation, but in this case
they always reconsider the matter under the influence of wine.


walter benjamin wrote
The appearance of superposition, of overlap, which come with hashish may be grapsed through the concept of similutude. When we say that one face is similar to another, we mean that certain features of this second face appear to us in the first, without the latter’s ceasing to be what it has been. Nevertheless, the possibilities of entering into appearance in this way are not subject to any criterion and are therefore boundless. The category of similarity, which for the waking consciousness has only minimal relevance, attains unlimited relevance in the world of hashish. There, we may say, everything is face: each thing has the degree of bodily presence that allows it to be searched - as one searches a face - for such traits as appear. Under these conditions even a sentence (to say nothing of the single word) puts on a face, and this face resembles that of the sentence standing opposed to it. In this way every truth points manifestly to its opposite, and this state of affairs explains the existence of doubt. Truth becomes something living; it lives solely in the rhythm by which statement and counterstatement displace each other in order to think each other.
shikata ga nai
randommuch
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States370 Posts
January 24 2013 00:09 GMT
#15533
On January 24 2013 08:22 darthfoley wrote:
Why do you guys do drugs? Don't mean to come across as condescending, but what do you gain from them? I've never done anything besides a little alcohol here and there, so obviously I don't get "it".

This is mainly for curiosity, not because i'm trying to get into drugs of any sort whether it's pot or crystal meth. Perhaps it's my genes or my upbringing, but i've never had ANY desire to get drunk or high. Maybe i'm just weird lol, but i don't understand the attraction to drugs.

Is it just to feel good? To get away from the problems in your life? Other things i can't think of? I'm genuinly interested and I hope i didn't come across in the wrong way.


Pain management.
Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food." Genesis 1:29
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 00:41:49
January 24 2013 00:30 GMT
#15534
On January 24 2013 08:22 darthfoley wrote:
Why do you guys do drugs? Don't mean to come across as condescending, but what do you gain from them? I've never done anything besides a little alcohol here and there, so obviously I don't get "it".

This is mainly for curiosity, not because i'm trying to get into drugs of any sort whether it's pot or crystal meth. Perhaps it's my genes or my upbringing, but i've never had ANY desire to get drunk or high. Maybe i'm just weird lol, but i don't understand the attraction to drugs.

Is it just to feel good? To get away from the problems in your life? Other things i can't think of? I'm genuinly interested and I hope i didn't come across in the wrong way.

Depends on the drug.

Marijuana: forget about the miserable details of life, relax.
LSD/Shrooms/other psychedelics: to gain a new perspective of life, one that cannot be imagined without the aid of a chemical.
Stimulants: get shit done. Euphoria, lack of inhibition (makes it very fun to be around people/loved ones.)
MDMA: An incredible amount of euphoria, mild hallucinogenic effects; just incredibly fun for any scenario.
Opiates: Pain management, numbness and feel-good all around.
Benzodiazapines: Social inhibition lowered; heightened ability to deal with stress, go-with-the-flow.
Dissociatives: A look into the world/mind without the need for a body or ego; a floating ability to observe whilst being one with nothingness.
Deliriants: Some people just like to watch horror films; some like 6 hours of horror within their own head.

Essentially, there are so many different types of drugs, and everyone uses their drug of choice for their own reason. Most of all, though, people who are "everyday" users just want the pain to go away.

It's pretty much just trading money/possibly health for the ability to do the impossible for a sober mind.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 00:46:12
January 24 2013 00:36 GMT
#15535
On January 24 2013 08:22 darthfoley wrote:
Why do you guys do drugs? Don't mean to come across as condescending, but what do you gain from them? I've never done anything besides a little alcohol here and there, so obviously I don't get "it".

This is mainly for curiosity, not because i'm trying to get into drugs of any sort whether it's pot or crystal meth. Perhaps it's my genes or my upbringing, but i've never had ANY desire to get drunk or high. Maybe i'm just weird lol, but i don't understand the attraction to drugs.

Is it just to feel good? To get away from the problems in your life? Other things i can't think of? I'm genuinly interested and I hope i didn't come across in the wrong way.


Pot is pretty easy to answer. To escape the everyday rat race, even just for a few hours.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kukaracha
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France1954 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 01:36:10
January 24 2013 01:35 GMT
#15536
On January 24 2013 09:02 sam!zdat wrote:
Show nested quote +
herodotus wrote
It is also their general practice to deliberate upon affairs of weight
when they are drunk; and then on the morrow, when they are sober,
the decision to which they came the night before is put before them
by the master of the house in which it was made; and if it is then
approved of, they act on it; if not, they set it aside. Sometimes,
however, they are sober at their first deliberation, but in this case
they always reconsider the matter under the influence of wine.


Show nested quote +
walter benjamin wrote
The appearance of superposition, of overlap, which come with hashish may be grapsed through the concept of similutude. When we say that one face is similar to another, we mean that certain features of this second face appear to us in the first, without the latter’s ceasing to be what it has been. Nevertheless, the possibilities of entering into appearance in this way are not subject to any criterion and are therefore boundless. The category of similarity, which for the waking consciousness has only minimal relevance, attains unlimited relevance in the world of hashish. There, we may say, everything is face: each thing has the degree of bodily presence that allows it to be searched - as one searches a face - for such traits as appear. Under these conditions even a sentence (to say nothing of the single word) puts on a face, and this face resembles that of the sentence standing opposed to it. In this way every truth points manifestly to its opposite, and this state of affairs explains the existence of doubt. Truth becomes something living; it lives solely in the rhythm by which statement and counterstatement displace each other in order to think each other.
Classy!
Le long pour l'un pour l'autre est court (le mot-à-mot du mot "amour").
Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
January 24 2013 01:47 GMT
#15537
On January 24 2013 09:30 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2013 08:22 darthfoley wrote:
Why do you guys do drugs? Don't mean to come across as condescending, but what do you gain from them? I've never done anything besides a little alcohol here and there, so obviously I don't get "it".

This is mainly for curiosity, not because i'm trying to get into drugs of any sort whether it's pot or crystal meth. Perhaps it's my genes or my upbringing, but i've never had ANY desire to get drunk or high. Maybe i'm just weird lol, but i don't understand the attraction to drugs.

Is it just to feel good? To get away from the problems in your life? Other things i can't think of? I'm genuinly interested and I hope i didn't come across in the wrong way.

Depends on the drug.

Marijuana: forget about the miserable details of life, relax.
LSD/Shrooms/other psychedelics: to gain a new perspective of life, one that cannot be imagined without the aid of a chemical.
Stimulants: get shit done. Euphoria, lack of inhibition (makes it very fun to be around people/loved ones.)
MDMA: An incredible amount of euphoria, mild hallucinogenic effects; just incredibly fun for any scenario.
Opiates: Pain management, numbness and feel-good all around.
Benzodiazapines: Social inhibition lowered; heightened ability to deal with stress, go-with-the-flow.
Dissociatives: A look into the world/mind without the need for a body or ego; a floating ability to observe whilst being one with nothingness.
Deliriants: Some people just like to watch horror films; some like 6 hours of horror within their own head.

Essentially, there are so many different types of drugs, and everyone uses their drug of choice for their own reason. Most of all, though, people who are "everyday" users just want the pain to go away.

It's pretty much just trading money/possibly health for the ability to do the impossible for a sober mind.


Couldn't agree more.
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
frozenclaw
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada410 Posts
January 24 2013 04:22 GMT
#15538
Hey, I'm from Toronto and I'm visiting Boston. Talked to 2 cool dudes in suburbs and.. went through the mall, found a friend of his. I'm fucking human-blessed as opposed to ... anyways thanks, loving this city so far.

Got pretty elated. :D
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 24 2013 04:32 GMT
#15539
Man I really need some good fresh weed to use with my new vape. It's awesome and all so far, but it could be so much more! I haven't actually had to buy weed in so long I don't even have any current hookups... Time to ask my 73 year old neighbour who smokes pot.

But before I go to bed tonight, I want to have a shower while really stoned. Showers stoned are AMAZING.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
January 24 2013 04:33 GMT
#15540
On January 24 2013 13:32 Grobyc wrote:
Showers stoned are AMAZING.


Word. Isn't hot water a luxury? Puts things in perspective.
shikata ga nai
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