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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 21:38:52
January 08 2015 21:32 GMT
#421
On January 09 2015 06:11 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

this thread? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/471242-tl-recruiting-heroes-of-the-storm-staff
doesn't contain the word business or anything like you described...
and now that peoples passion lies in league of legends its less of a good reason? finally those writers have a front page.

More like this response blog: http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/471311-on-passion

Granted, there aren't that many Mod/Staff posts on it, but the ones there all say the same general idea, that it's a site for passion and community, and that TL isn't a money making venture.

On January 09 2015 06:25 sabas123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

I don't think they still try to act like the #passion anymore. althou I don't know what you are refering to with the comments from former Liquid Dota players.

But I have to admit that the sc community was toxic as fuck towards league. I hope that changes.

Ex-Liquid.Fluff did an AMA or something, I think, or at least said on stream about how bad Liquid was as an organization for managing a team. Don't want to overstate or misquote anything he said, but it was generally negative.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
January 08 2015 21:40 GMT
#422
On January 09 2015 06:32 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 06:11 ComaDose wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

this thread? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/471242-tl-recruiting-heroes-of-the-storm-staff
doesn't contain the word business or anything like you described...
and now that peoples passion lies in league of legends its less of a good reason? finally those writers have a front page.

More like this response blog: http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/471311-on-passion

Granted, there aren't that many Mod/Staff posts on it, but the ones there all say the same general idea, that it's a site for passion and community, and that TL isn't a money making venture.

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 06:25 sabas123 wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

I don't think they still try to act like the #passion anymore. althou I don't know what you are refering to with the comments from former Liquid Dota players.

But I have to admit that the sc community was toxic as fuck towards league. I hope that changes.

Ex-Liquid.Fluff did an AMA or something, I think, or at least said on stream about how bad Liquid was as an organization for managing a team. Don't want to overstate or misquote anything he said, but it was generally negative.

I don't understand what you think has changed tho. the mods/writers that have been writing league articles for years are still doing it for free.
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WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-08 21:59:06
January 08 2015 21:58 GMT
#423
On January 09 2015 06:40 ComaDose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 06:32 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 06:11 ComaDose wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

this thread? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/471242-tl-recruiting-heroes-of-the-storm-staff
doesn't contain the word business or anything like you described...
and now that peoples passion lies in league of legends its less of a good reason? finally those writers have a front page.

More like this response blog: http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/471311-on-passion

Granted, there aren't that many Mod/Staff posts on it, but the ones there all say the same general idea, that it's a site for passion and community, and that TL isn't a money making venture.

On January 09 2015 06:25 sabas123 wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

I don't think they still try to act like the #passion anymore. althou I don't know what you are refering to with the comments from former Liquid Dota players.

But I have to admit that the sc community was toxic as fuck towards league. I hope that changes.

Ex-Liquid.Fluff did an AMA or something, I think, or at least said on stream about how bad Liquid was as an organization for managing a team. Don't want to overstate or misquote anything he said, but it was generally negative.

I don't understand what you think has changed tho. the mods/writers that have been writing league articles for years are still doing it for free.

Sure they have. And again, I hope Liquid expands to whatever games they want and does it well. Esports needs more organizations that are stable and professional.

Just as long as they are being professional about it, and not being whatever they want to be whenever its convenient.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
January 09 2015 10:20 GMT
#424
On January 09 2015 06:58 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 06:40 ComaDose wrote:
On January 09 2015 06:32 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 06:11 ComaDose wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

this thread? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/471242-tl-recruiting-heroes-of-the-storm-staff
doesn't contain the word business or anything like you described...
and now that peoples passion lies in league of legends its less of a good reason? finally those writers have a front page.

More like this response blog: http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/471311-on-passion

Granted, there aren't that many Mod/Staff posts on it, but the ones there all say the same general idea, that it's a site for passion and community, and that TL isn't a money making venture.

On January 09 2015 06:25 sabas123 wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

I don't think they still try to act like the #passion anymore. althou I don't know what you are refering to with the comments from former Liquid Dota players.

But I have to admit that the sc community was toxic as fuck towards league. I hope that changes.

Ex-Liquid.Fluff did an AMA or something, I think, or at least said on stream about how bad Liquid was as an organization for managing a team. Don't want to overstate or misquote anything he said, but it was generally negative.

I don't understand what you think has changed tho. the mods/writers that have been writing league articles for years are still doing it for free.

Sure they have. And again, I hope Liquid expands to whatever games they want and does it well. Esports needs more organizations that are stable and professional.

Just as long as they are being professional about it, and not being whatever they want to be whenever its convenient.

I think you're confusing Liquid the pro team (business) and Team Liquid the community website (passion). It's been that way for a very long time and why they separated the two entities online with the teamliquidpro website.
Twitter: @iamcaustic
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
January 09 2015 11:21 GMT
#425
My dick is hard.
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maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 12:56:31
January 09 2015 12:56 GMT
#426
Liquid following the money.. which is expected for a business.

Doesn't really affect me because the only esport I care about is Starcraft 2. Still, congratulations to all parties involved.
tadL
Profile Joined September 2010
Croatia679 Posts
January 09 2015 22:52 GMT
#427
TL you treadet LoL like shit for long time and now you come back. I hope not to many forget this. Because your 180 turn flip jump is a good thing but you should write a big peace of excuse me to the people who tried to contribute in the past and the community.

Anways GL in LoL. You need some success as a Pro Gaming Team
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 09 2015 23:03 GMT
#428
On January 09 2015 06:32 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 06:11 ComaDose wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

this thread? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/games/471242-tl-recruiting-heroes-of-the-storm-staff
doesn't contain the word business or anything like you described...
and now that peoples passion lies in league of legends its less of a good reason? finally those writers have a front page.

More like this response blog: http://www.liquiddota.com/blogs/471311-on-passion

Granted, there aren't that many Mod/Staff posts on it, but the ones there all say the same general idea, that it's a site for passion and community, and that TL isn't a money making venture.

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 06:25 sabas123 wrote:
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

I don't think they still try to act like the #passion anymore. althou I don't know what you are refering to with the comments from former Liquid Dota players.

But I have to admit that the sc community was toxic as fuck towards league. I hope that changes.

Ex-Liquid.Fluff did an AMA or something, I think, or at least said on stream about how bad Liquid was as an organization for managing a team. Don't want to overstate or misquote anything he said, but it was generally negative.

you definitely overstated and misquoted lmfao
he said he had no problems with management in terms of enabling the players to play comfortably but felt that liquid failed to promote them as players (implying he wanted commercial marketing of an individual - basically what you see with rtz with eg, or dendi with navi)
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-09 23:33:31
January 09 2015 23:14 GMT
#429
On January 10 2015 07:52 tadL wrote:
TL you treadet LoL like shit for long time and now you come back. I hope not to many forget this. Because your 180 turn flip jump is a good thing but you should write a big peace of excuse me to the people who tried to contribute in the past and the community.

Anways GL in LoL. You need some success as a Pro Gaming Team

dont u mean a 360
also do we really need to take the opinion of fluff ? The guy is a whining crybaby who got kicked for a good reason
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packrat386
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States5077 Posts
January 09 2015 23:22 GMT
#430
Until liquiddota was around, the only thing separating Dota2 from LoL was the fact that Dota2 articles were featured whereas LoL wasn't. Both had staff that were doing consistent writing in their respective forums and a community to go along with it. While the TL community as a whole isn't hugely accepting of LoL, I would hardly say the administration has tried to snub the League community.

It makes sense that LiquidLegends would be created later than the other sites because TL isn't as large a part of the League community as it is for Dota and HS.
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iamcaustic
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1509 Posts
January 09 2015 23:24 GMT
#431
On January 10 2015 08:22 packrat386 wrote:
It makes sense that LiquidLegends would be created later than the other sites because TL isn't as large a part of the League community as it is for Dota and HS.

Hopefully that will change with this Liquid/Curse merger tho.
Twitter: @iamcaustic
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
January 09 2015 23:30 GMT
#432
On January 10 2015 08:22 packrat386 wrote:
Until liquiddota was around, the only thing separating Dota2 from LoL was the fact that Dota2 articles were featured whereas LoL wasn't. Both had staff that were doing consistent writing in their respective forums and a community to go along with it. While the TL community as a whole isn't hugely accepting of LoL, I would hardly say the administration has tried to snub the League community.

It makes sense that LiquidLegends would be created later than the other sites because TL isn't as large a part of the League community as it is for Dota and HS.

Well that alone was pretty meh tbh...
I actually think there is some truth to the comments of thorin and monte, but whatever, NOW TL stands behind lol.
That's something, right?
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
January 10 2015 02:53 GMT
#433
This... is kinda huge. It either spells doom for TeamLiquid as we know it, or it's the next big thing in esports. Again.
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Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
January 10 2015 03:24 GMT
#434
On January 10 2015 07:52 tadL wrote:
TL you treadet LoL like shit for long time and now you come back. I hope not to many forget this. Because your 180 turn flip jump is a good thing but you should write a big peace of excuse me to the people who tried to contribute in the past and the community.

Anways GL in LoL. You need some success as a Pro Gaming Team

If you're this mad over liquid not following the same priorities as you you could always just leave.
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Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
January 10 2015 12:53 GMT
#435
On January 09 2015 05:53 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2015 03:00 KeksX wrote:
On January 09 2015 00:59 Zato-1 wrote:
Is this the same Liquid'Nazgul who publicly dismissed LoL as a casual game? This looks like a very cynical, opportunistic move to me.

Teamliquid is a business, he can't just do what he has or has not (allegedly) passion for.

Except for, you know, all the times they use "this isn't a business" as a cop-out.

Remember a few months ago when they were looking for Heroes writers, and some people were asking "what are the salary/benefits?" I believe the go-to line then was basically that TL isn't a business, it's all passion and community and people who want to do stuff for the site because they love it so much.

Personally, I'd love to see TL become a legitimate Esport organization that crosses into as many games as it wants, and treats its players and staff with professional integrity. But all things considered (especially considering some comments from former Liquid DotA players), it still seems like Liquid is stuck between acting like it's all about #passion and #liquidfamily, and trying to become a major Esports club.

The community site and team are both kind of different entities.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
January 10 2015 15:40 GMT
#436
This is pretty cray cray.
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Profile Joined January 2015
Australia1 Post
January 10 2015 20:43 GMT
#437
On January 10 2015 12:24 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2015 07:52 tadL wrote:
TL you treadet LoL like shit for long time and now you come back. I hope not to many forget this. Because your 180 turn flip jump is a good thing but you should write a big peace of excuse me to the people who tried to contribute in the past and the community.

Anways GL in LoL. You need some success as a Pro Gaming Team

If you're this mad over liquid not following the same priorities as you you could always just leave.


He does have a point imho. I recall the original release from Naz explaining why Liquid would support Dota 2 vs LOL....seems like a pretty quick change of heart that should be properly explained if Liquid Legends hopes to have any credibility with the LOL scene.
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iamcaustic
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Canada1509 Posts
January 10 2015 23:27 GMT
#438
On January 11 2015 05:43 Mike Tyson wrote:
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On January 10 2015 12:24 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On January 10 2015 07:52 tadL wrote:
TL you treadet LoL like shit for long time and now you come back. I hope not to many forget this. Because your 180 turn flip jump is a good thing but you should write a big peace of excuse me to the people who tried to contribute in the past and the community.

Anways GL in LoL. You need some success as a Pro Gaming Team

If you're this mad over liquid not following the same priorities as you you could always just leave.


He does have a point imho. I recall the original release from Naz explaining why Liquid would support Dota 2 vs LOL....seems like a pretty quick change of heart that should be properly explained if Liquid Legends hopes to have any credibility with the LOL scene.

I don't think it's that quick, personally. League has undergone quite a few changes since Victor's original comments, especially with the Summoner's Rift makeover for S5. On top of that, merging with an established League team eliminates a lot of the logistical work required to make a team from scratch, which means it makes a lot more business sense for a team that didn't want to put that kind of work into the game originally.

To reiterate, Liquid didn't want to invest a huge amount of time and resources building up a League team from scratch; they preferred to do that with DotA 2. Curse came along and said, "We already have the players, management, and staff. We just need a brand." Done deal.
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Slaughter
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United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-10 23:49:37
January 10 2015 23:49 GMT
#439
Shouldn't you also consider the matter that the release quotes from the 2 owners say that Liquid approached TL 1st? Its perfectly plausible that without that opportunity presented to them that they wouldn't have a LoL team anytime soon, but that they said "hey why not" when presented with a sound opportunity on the business end and able to please a section of its community. 2 Birds one stone and people here are too bitter for no reason. Monte just likes to talk like that as if he is some fountain of wisdom.
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Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
January 11 2015 00:07 GMT
#440
Awesome! I'll enjoy watching LCS even more now.
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