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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 10 2006 06:14 GMT
#121
I reworked bill's data to included dmg/cost
here's how it goes:
[image loading]
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
MarcX
Profile Joined February 2005
Netherlands772 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-10 06:17:27
December 10 2006 06:15 GMT
#122
Awesome. Can you rework my data too? There's a download link for the xls file.

</lazy>
«A fool and his freedom are soon parted» ~ Richard Stallman, Founder FSF
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 10 2006 06:16 GMT
#123
On December 10 2006 15:07 PTC-Hurricane wrote:
my bad marc. Thanks for the info.

evan, so far it seems as putting the towers on the end works extremely well:
[image loading]


I've found those positions to be very effective.

Yeah I thought about that, maybe they just hit straight and hit faster and faster
Hang on i gotta try that.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
December 10 2006 06:18 GMT
#124
whats the max dmg and range on the 3rd lvl flower tower. I don't trust the little Upgrade Icon thing.
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MarcX
Profile Joined February 2005
Netherlands772 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-10 06:21:39
December 10 2006 06:19 GMT
#125
On December 10 2006 15:18 PTC-Hurricane wrote:
whats the max dmg and range on the 3rd lvl flower tower. I don't trust the little Upgrade Icon thing.

... ?? -_-; Damage is 909090 and range is 90 Honestly.. This is the data the game works with, regardless of what it prints on screen. How dare you even ask this question after finding my post there.
«A fool and his freedom are soon parted» ~ Richard Stallman, Founder FSF
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-10 06:42:30
December 10 2006 06:25 GMT
#126
On December 10 2006 14:23 MarcX wrote:
Okay I spent the last few hours copying over Bill's Data. Not because I don't trust him, but because I wanted to contribute T_T

I got this directly from the file, which lists "Upgrade cost" instead of the total price, which makes me appreciate Bill's work even more. I don't know how much the initial ones cost (it's in a seperate place in the 3500 line file, I didn't feel like looking for it) so I was unable to copy that.

Click for stats of all towers
[image loading]


If you edit the XLS file please repost it here ^^; (can you open it??)
http://www.file-upload.net/download_10.12.06_q6c7e9.xls.html

I'll spend the next few hours trying to find something USEFUL


Thanks for uncovering that . Hmm... I think the unknown negative numbers affect rate of fire. For example, the infamous flower cannon towers have only -7 which agrees with their slower rate of fire.

This would imply that the last upgrade for the blue tower might be worth it, since it will probably fire faster.

Edit: Actually, the max level blue tower doesn't seem to fire any faster than the one before it =P. (by my impression, at least)
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
December 10 2006 06:32 GMT
#127
[image loading]

[image loading]


thats what I meant.... I've been having troubles opening files recently, so I was seeing if the info was right... it is rarely shown correctly in the first part.
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MarcX
Profile Joined February 2005
Netherlands772 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-10 06:38:06
December 10 2006 06:37 GMT
#128
Bill already mentioned that. I found it too (a difference between an upgrade value and the actual value of the next thing) but I didn't bother explicitly saying it again.
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Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
December 10 2006 06:43 GMT
#129
I'm determined to get that last tower...

GAH.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
SteelString
Profile Joined July 2006
446 Posts
December 10 2006 06:48 GMT
#130
61
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 10 2006 06:50 GMT
#131
O one more thing, put quality on LOW will help I think, because when graphic is too intense game might bugg out.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
December 10 2006 06:52 GMT
#132
by placing my towers better i managed to get 3 levels further but as i suspected it doesnt help that much, you still need to figure out a better strategy

maybe finding a way to correctly place the flower towers will help more
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-10 07:10:01
December 10 2006 06:54 GMT
#133
I think I might have something.... not sure yet though.

EDIT: not working.....
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aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands4000 Posts
December 10 2006 07:10 GMT
#134
75, all leaf. the chart showed these to be most effective, so i used them only. I put 2 fully upg leaves at the end of each straight, the faster firing rate at close range is important indeed. I upgraded 2 towers to max first, then 1 at a time.

The game is not REALLY addictive, i've played it twice now and i'm sure i won't make the 5. But finding out what is the best approach is is kinda fun.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-10 07:11:41
December 10 2006 07:11 GMT
#135
On December 10 2006 15:52 Sabbath wrote:
by placing my towers better i managed to get 3 levels further but as i suspected it doesnt help that much, you still need to figure out a better strategy

maybe finding a way to correctly place the flower towers will help more

So far it's tested that the Ice tower is best placed in the middle to maximize the range benefit.
Nature should be placed as Hurrican suggested, on the end of a road firing straight at comming objects.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
MarcX
Profile Joined February 2005
Netherlands772 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-10 07:12:31
December 10 2006 07:11 GMT
#136
_y probably refers to position, and is in no way relevant to tower stats.

Are the towers with large Y values any larger than the other ones? That would confirm my theory.
«A fool and his freedom are soon parted» ~ Richard Stallman, Founder FSF
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-10 07:14:54
December 10 2006 07:13 GMT
#137
Highest I've hit is 82 with natures.... the key is finding out how to get that last flower tower... and I have no idea...

Yes, the higher Y value is a higher tower.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
ToT)BrAiN(
Profile Joined March 2003
Austria899 Posts
December 10 2006 07:15 GMT
#138
73 on my 2nd try
90 is alot =)
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
December 10 2006 07:17 GMT
#139
On December 10 2006 16:13 PTC-Hurricane wrote:
Highest I've hit is 82 with natures.... the key is finding out how to get that last flower tower... and I have no idea...

Yes, the higher Y value is a higher tower.


I think someone mentioned u can get lvl 30 w/ 1 ice in the center maybe try that and put a flower where ur nature would've been.
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
LG)Sabbath
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Argentina3024 Posts
December 10 2006 07:17 GMT
#140
max i got so far was 76 with all leafs placed at the corner near the castle, inside the C formed by the tracks, but like i said it doesnt make all that much of a difference

can you guys cracking the .fla check on whats the advantage of upgrading 2nd level flower... since it has lower range and its probably better to just get another flower than to upgrade one (but they still suck ass, its much better to just use leaf)

anyone who got past lvl 80 care to share your strategy?
https://www.twitch.tv/argsabbath/
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