European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread - Page 839
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Poland9204 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10740 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12216 Posts
On May 08 2017 03:00 TheDwf wrote: Estimations: Macron 65,1 Le Pen 34,9 Participation rate 74,7% I literally spent the entire week telling people that no, just because Brexit and Trump, that doesn't mean you can't trust polling anymore under any circumstances, you are still allowed to think about things. So I'd like to thank reality for this estimation o/ | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On May 08 2017 03:06 Nebuchad wrote: I literally spent the entire week telling people that no, just because Brexit and Trump, that doesn't mean you can't trust polling anymore under any circumstances, you are still allowed to think about things. So I'd like to thank reality for this estimation o/ Yeah people really went full stupid on this supposed streak, as if France was going to give itself to the far-right lol | ||
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Poopi
France12886 Posts
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lastpuritan
United States540 Posts
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28677 Posts
On May 08 2017 03:06 Nebuchad wrote: I literally spent the entire week telling people that no, just because Brexit and Trump, that doesn't mean you can't trust polling anymore under any circumstances, you are still allowed to think about things. So I'd like to thank reality for this estimation o/ Same here :D | ||
Karis Vas Ryaar
United States4396 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
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opisska
Poland8852 Posts
On May 08 2017 03:04 TheDwf wrote: Brillant display of power from the ruling class, they managed to sell a marketing product and materialize a pure bubble in a matter of months; from noname to youngest president of the fifth world power in less than 3 years, well done, well done I guess if he wasn't like that, you'd be criticizing him for being a career politicians right now ... | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On May 08 2017 03:15 opisska wrote: I guess if he wasn't like that, you'd be criticizing him for being a career politicians right now ... I voted for someone who had 58 years of cumulated mandate in his life and does politics for 35 years None of you guys were in France to witness the avalanche of media hype around Macron, even Sarkozy in 2007 wasn't as pushed forward by obscenely complacent journalists | ||
LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On May 08 2017 02:16 RvB wrote: I assume most of us are millenials and our generation hardly benefited much from the status quo. We're the first generation in forever which isn't making more money than their parents at the same age,unemployment for the young is double that of the average, they're stuck with massive student debt in some countries, can barely afford to move out of our parents home, has to bear the massive amount of future liabilities caused by the way our welfare states work etc. I can continue for a while but you get the point. We're also almost all of the educated, multilingual, city-based class who like to travel. While youth in general might be worse off we're not really the fraction of it that suffers the most from the grim outlook for youth employment. | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
Macron is given at 65.5% of expressed votes, so this would be 20.5 millions. Le Pen would get 10.8 millions, rofl, not even 11 millions... | ||
LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On May 08 2017 01:50 Nyxisto wrote: Also buying property in Vienna is pretty high up the luxury list. Home ownership isn't that great of an asset any more anyway, renting and having the flexibility to move is preferable. Home ownership rate in Austria, Switzerland and Germany is very low but it has prevented quite a lot of trouble that countries like Italy and Spain have had. Dunno how much it differs in tiny countries considering that both countries I'm from are large with no particular scarcity of available land for housing outside of a couple of megacities. But I can't help but feel it would be a pretty shitty life to never be able to buy a house and live in one place for decades. Of course you can't always expect to keep the same job forever but a job lost being a cross-country (or cross-EU) job search is a particularly troubling development in terms of quality of life. Also makes it shitty to attempt to have a family which manifests itself in the rather dismal demographics that Europe in general has. | ||
Big J
Austria16289 Posts
Somebody tell him to read up on Le Pen's program. | ||
TheDwf
France19747 Posts
![]() Reasons for abstention: I refuse to choose between two candidates that I totally reject I don't reject them but none of them correspond to my ideas Whatever I vote, it won't change anything, Macron will win Not available Not interested in politics Reasons for Macron vote: + Show Spoiler + ![]() Opposing Le Pen The political renewal he embodies His program His personality Reasons for Le Pen vote: + Show Spoiler + ![]() | ||
Makro
France16890 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On May 08 2017 03:33 LegalLord wrote: Dunno how much it differs in tiny countries considering that both countries I'm from are large with no particular scarcity of available land for housing outside of a couple of megacities. But I can't help but feel it would be a pretty shitty life to never be able to buy a house and live in one place for decades. Of course you can't always expect to keep the same job forever but a job lost being a cross-country (or cross-EU) job search is a particularly troubling development in terms of quality of life. Also makes it shitty to attempt to have a family which manifests itself in the rather dismal demographics that Europe in general has. Well what can you do, we've been steadily moving from autonomy and self-subsistence towards more closely knit, urban societies. In that context buying a house, especially in today's economic situation where whole regions can decay over a few years can mean that you're sitting on a huge amount of debt and dead weight. Especially when you're older being close to public services, living in some communal way or whatever might be better than sitting around alone in a giant house. Germany is kind of peculiar in a way because our vocational system and decentralisation has prevented this to a degree, but in countries like the UK or France and much of the US small towns and that kind of organisation doesn't really work any more. Having high population density is too important nowadays. | ||
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