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Velr
Switzerland10834 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
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nojok
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10834 Posts
On March 23 2017 03:15 nojok wrote: I feel a lot closer to French speaking Belgians and Swiss than other latin countries just for the sake of speaking the same language. I Imagine it's the same thing with the Germany/Austria/Swiss bloc. No one likes germans  (sadly this has more truth in it than i like to admit). | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
On March 23 2017 03:15 nojok wrote: I feel a lot closer to French speaking Belgians and Swiss than other latin countries just for the sake of speaking the same language. I Imagine it's the same thing with the Germany/Austria/Swiss bloc. haha it's quite odd indeed, as leaving really near the belgium border, i can somewhat relate to it | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On March 23 2017 03:15 nojok wrote: I feel a lot closer to French speaking Belgians and Swiss than other latin countries just for the sake of speaking the same language. I Imagine it's the same thing with the Germany/Austria/Swiss bloc. Oh dear, you have no idea how hard it is to communicate with the Swiss in "German". (until you get used to it of course) | ||
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On March 23 2017 04:49 Big J wrote: Oh dear, you have no idea how hard it is to communicate with the Swiss in "German". (until you get used to it of course) I know they sound like the caricature of German, even I can identify Swiss German from a few meters. French Swiss have a lovely accent though. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On March 23 2017 05:04 nojok wrote: I know they sound like the caricature of German, even I can identify Swiss German from a few meters. French Swiss have a lovely accent though. I dunno, but I think their intonation of German is latin-based. Also they are weak and do not use the stronk letters of the alphabet, but mostly their weaker brothers like the anglosaxons. And half of their words end in -i or -li which is pretty much the equivalent of English baby talk. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On March 23 2017 06:37 Nyxisto wrote: Speaking of latin languages, what is the state of affairs in Italy? We don't seem to have any Italian people in this thread any more. For some reason they seem to be largely absent on the internet. It's such a huge country but it seems to always escape the European news cycle Yeah, I would have questions on this weird M5S movement... | ||
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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On March 23 2017 07:08 Artisreal wrote: French have lovely accent no matter what language they speak. Next to the cheese and wine and climate definitely on the list of things Germans are envious of. It's considered superhot with girls, with guys though... | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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lastpuritan
United States540 Posts
And French is sexy no matter what gender speaks it. Les femmes françaises ici, message moi svp. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10834 Posts
On March 23 2017 05:04 nojok wrote: I know they sound like the caricature of German, even I can identify Swiss German from a few meters. French Swiss have a lovely accent though. Its not just the accent, we (swiss german) don't use most of the time forms high german has to offer (like ~7 important/often used ones?). Its basically just Present, Perfect and well, thats about it. Clearly, we are very efficient . Add in big changes in the actual dialects every ~50 km that often use very diffrent words (fome more latin influenced some less) that even some swiss, with not much language talent, have troubles understanding each other... Oh, and there is the Wallis.. No one understands them, no one :p. To me it seems as if many germans try to abandon dialects while austrians and swiss use them to seperate themselves from germany. *Austrian* (i just know Wien and Salzburg) dialects are also really fun for us and what you do to german grammar, even tho you write high german, is just pure cruelty . Swiss written language is more or less high german with a few extra words, but the grammar is "solid", you on the other hand... My god :D. | ||
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
By Cynthia Kroet 3/22/17, 10:47 AM CET Brussels mayor: All our mosques are controlled by Salafists Yvan Mayeur says his city is not the capital of jihadism, one year after the Brussels attacks. The Belgian capital has a problem with extremist Islam, Brussels Mayor Yvan Mayeur said in an interview with newspaper De Morgen published Wednesday, one year after the terror attacks at Zaventem Airport and Maalbeek metro station. “Everyone knows that all mosques in Brussels are in the hands of Salafists,” Mayeur said, referring to the radical form of Islam. “We need to change this, we need new mosques that follow our democratic rules and that are being controlled by the government.” However, Mayeur denied claims his city is the capital of jihad, an image that emerged after authorities revealed many of the terror suspects responsible for the Paris and Brussels terror attacks lived or operated from the city. “Jihadism in Belgium started in Antwerp, then spread to Vilvoorde, Molenbeek and Brussels-north,” Mayeur said. He added: “Terrorism is a problem that involves Europe as a whole. Don’t forget what happened in Paris, Nice and Berlin. If this was only a Brussels problem, it would have been solved.” According to Mayeur, people should fear not only radicalized youth, but extremism in general. “We live in a world in which radicalism is growing. People such as Donald Trump, Marine Le Pen and Vladimir Putin are extremists too,” he said. A confidential report into anti-terror measures revealed earlier this week that police in the Brussels district of Molenbeek have uncovered 51 organizations with suspected ties to terrorism after Belgian Interior Minister Jan Jambon pledged to “clean up” the Molenbeek district. Mayeur said that his city still faces a shortage of police officers to cope with the burden of extra security measures for the EU capital, demonstrations and security of events and buildings. Source | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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a_flayer
Netherlands2826 Posts
On March 23 2017 11:59 Nyxisto wrote: The foreign funding that fuels this extremism shouldn't really be a thing and Imams should be publicly educated with some curriculum developed between religious organisations and the state. Problem is that this both runs into conflict with conservatives who will either argue on grounds of religious freedom or want to keep this position for the Christian churches, and the left who starts to complain about authoritarianism. I wouldn't want mosques under government control, but I do think that Salafist Islam being so prevalent is essentially a failure with regards to integrating Islam as a whole properly in European society. There's a part of the Salafi movement that go around promoting things such as segregation between genders (and everything associated with that), and they're liable to put pressure on other Islamic people to follow their ideas. If it's true that the majority of the mosques are in the hands of Salafists, then that raises concerns for me regarding ever achieving what I would consider to be a proper level of integration. Like that group who were going around in Germany telling people to stop drinking and listening to music. That's protected under free speech, fine, but it's not that much of stretch to consider they might approach a Muslim woman who's out and about on the street on her own, and tell her that she needs a male escort. That, for me, could be crossing the line of intimidation depending on how persistent/assertive they might be in the conversation that followed. Granted, this is just a hypothetical. Still, I think there definitely needs to be a concentrated effort to prevent this kind of thing from snowballing. Even if people don't go around approaching people on the street, these kind of things are likely to be professed in mosques by (some) Salafist imams. Or even just in homes. Like, last year, this happened in Switzerland: Muslim students in Switzerland must shake their teacher's hand at the beginning and end of lessons, a regional authority has ruled. A controversial exemption from the tradition had been granted for two teenage brothers whose interpretation of the Koran meant they were unwilling to touch a member of the opposite sex. If they continue to refuse, their parents could face a fine. The regional authority said teachers "had the right" to demand handshakes. Shaking teachers' hands as a sign of respect is a longstanding tradition in Switzerland. When it emerged last month that a middle school had allowed two Syrian brothers aged 14 and 15 to avoid the tradition due to their religious beliefs, it sparked a national controversy. The boys, whose father is an imam, said their faith did not allow them to shake hands with a woman who was not related to them. Justice Minister Simonetta Sommaruga said on television that "shaking hands is part of our culture". Source Integration of immigrants needs increased funding, or something like that. I have no concrete solutions for this problem that I perceive, I'm not smart enough for that. Maybe there should be extensive mandatory social and civics education for immigrants or something. I do think if this problem had been identified and dealt with appropriately 30 years ago or so, then we wouldn't have had people like Geert Wilders in politics today and could have taken in millions of Muslims without problems. | ||
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