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Artisreal
Germany9235 Posts
On October 13 2016 07:27 Reaps wrote: Afaik suicide (not suicide by combat) is heavily looked down upon within Islam, even by the most destructive interpretations of it. To be honest, the whole martyr thing with blowing yourself up not being suicide but heroic is kinda far away from Islam. | ||
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Wolfstan
Canada605 Posts
On October 10 2016 14:36 WhiteDog wrote: Nyxisto the globalization is not an economic phenomena only but a set of regulation that change the sovereignty in the world. If you accept it, you are bound to pursue a certain set of policies, in finance for exemple, and any kind of socialist policies is impossible. That and capitalist does not work like you seem to believe. Look at the world - redistribution leads to fiscal evasion and increasing debts. Can socialist policy execution in a sovereign area coexist with a neighboring sovereign area executing neoliberal policies in your opinion? | ||
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I always held our police in relatively high esteem, but now I wonder if this also happens in cases which dont get as much media attention. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18208 Posts
On October 13 2016 15:51 Mafe wrote: I struggle to believe this. Almost every single high profile case of terrorism had some major fuckups by our law enforcement system. And typically even AFTER it was discovered, and everybody should have been aware of the importance of the case. I always held our police in relatively high esteem, but now I wonder if this also happens in cases which dont get as much media attention. Almost certainly. I don't see why terrorism cases should be exceptions. If anything, you'd expect the force to put the best men on the job, given the media attention. Although I don't see how you'd blame suicide in a jail cell on the police. Isn't that the warden's job? | ||
zatic
Zurich15361 Posts
On October 13 2016 17:16 Acrofales wrote: Almost certainly. I don't see why terrorism cases should be exceptions. If anything, you'd expect the force to put the best men on the job, given the media attention. Although I don't see how you'd blame suicide in a jail cell on the police. Isn't that the warden's job? "Law enforcement" then. I don't know what the hell is going on really. It looks like Bavaria needs to outsource their police force to the rest of Germany, they seem to be the only ones that don't majorly fuck up. Earlier this week I was joking about how the escaped terror supect will be in custody within hours since our police is supposed to be much better than, say, Belgiums. TT what a screwup. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On October 13 2016 18:32 zatic wrote: "Law enforcement" then. I don't know what the hell is going on really. It looks like Bavaria needs to outsource their police force to the rest of Germany, they seem to be the only ones that don't majorly fuck up. Earlier this week I was joking about how the escaped terror supect will be in custody within hours since our police is supposed to be much better than, say, Belgiums. TT what a screwup. Police is Belgium is the worst of europe tho. They knew where Abdelslam was since month but the information was loss somewhere in the bureaucracy. Can't take that seriously. | ||
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On October 13 2016 20:13 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Could be worse. Your police could be as bad as the Americans. To be fair, the German police only ever seem to muck up in terrorism cases. I suppose the most interesting aspect of the event was that he was apprehended and detained by the syrian refugees, but I am sure the more bigoted of us can spin it one way or another. Hey now, our police have a shit load of problems, but we are pretty good at preventing custodial suicide, particularly with terrorists (which is why Sandra Bland's death is so suspicious). | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4553 Posts
On October 13 2016 20:13 WhiteDog wrote: Police is Belgium is the worst of europe tho. They knew where Abdelslam was since month but the information was loss somewhere in the bureaucracy. Can't take that seriously. Ehhhh, kind of, I guess. End of November, a report was filed that said: Abid Aberkan, son of Djamila Mohamed, and cousin of Salah Abdeslam, is potentially radicalising. There was a footnote in the report that he had allegedly been in contact with the Abdeslam brothers. This report was never sent to the database and did not reach the right people. 4 months later Abdeslam is found in Mohamed's house. To say that the police "knew where Abdeslam was" is stretching the truth a little bit. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On October 13 2016 20:26 Laurens wrote: Ehhhh, kind of, I guess. End of November, a report was filed that said: Abid Aberkan, son of Djamila Mohamed, and cousin of Salah Abdeslam, is potentially radicalising. There was a footnote in the report that he had allegedly been in contact with the Abdeslam brothers. This report was never sent to the database and did not reach the right people. 4 months later Abdeslam is found in Mohamed's house. To say that the police "knew where Abdeslam was" is stretching the truth a little bit. The report about Abid Aberkan said he was radicalising and that he had contact with Salah Abdelslam. And the chief of police decided not to transmit the report to the antiterrorist services. Plus, they basically had info on him and his brother since 2014, never followed it. A judge asked the police to put him on phone surveillance somewhere in 2015 and they did not do it due to budgetary restrictions. They also acquired some info in 2015, most notably USB data and some phone calls on Salah and Brahim but didn't use it ... come on. On October 13 2016 20:13 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Could be worse. Your police could be as bad as the Americans. To be fair, the German police only ever seem to muck up in terrorism cases. I suppose the most interesting aspect of the event was that he was apprehended and detained by the syrian refugees, but I am sure the more bigoted of us can spin it one way or another. The american police is pretty efficient imo. The problem is that they kill their own citizens for no reasons. | ||
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