EPTObesity now a global issue - Page 7
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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SpikeStarcraft
Germany2095 Posts
On May 30 2014 20:05 SatedSC2 wrote: As long as your calorie intake is < your energy used, you will lose weight: http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/05/teacher-loses-37-pounds-after-three-month-mcdonalds-diet/ There are lots of similar experiments. Another lecturer somewhere in the States did this eating only candy. Generally yes. But macros are important too. If you eat only shit with mass carbs and fat, but under your caloric intake you're gonna lose weight but its muscle weight because of the lack of protein. Then you're basal metabolic rate sinks and you need to cut calories even more or do even more cardio. But you get super tired of eating so much fat and carbs + doing so much cardio and you cannot build up muscles to make cardio easier on you. Its also very easy to overeat on fat and carbs and very hard to eat an appropriate amount of protein without busting your calorie budget. Your workout potential is capped at some point. Overeating has no limits. You can always outeat your workout. So the approach "I can eat anything if i just work out enough" is flawed. Nutrition is so important for muscle gains. Working out will have only marginal effects if youre nutrition isnt right. You can move the weights but nothing will happen. I mean its possible to lose weight with shit nutrition but youre gonna get weaker and just a smaller version of yourself instead of stronger and leaner. You would still be jiggly. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On May 30 2014 20:05 SatedSC2 wrote: As long as your calorie intake is < your energy used, you will lose weight: http://newsfeed.time.com/2014/01/05/teacher-loses-37-pounds-after-three-month-mcdonalds-diet/ There are lots of similar experiments. Another lecturer somewhere in the States did this eating only candy. It's fun you say that, because at a certain point a few years ago I tried a chocolate only diet with correct daily caloric deficit intake and that experiment miserably failed. You might find this video very interesting, you can skip to the second part if you want, where the doctor explains how cell metabolism works: | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
How long did you last? | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
On May 31 2014 01:51 urboss wrote: Haha, there's a chocolate only diet? How long did you last? Not much really. It just sucked. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On May 31 2014 01:47 aTnClouD wrote: It's fun you say that, because at a certain point a few years ago I tried a chocolate only diet with correct daily caloric deficit intake and that experiment miserably failed. You might find this video very interesting, you can skip to the second part if you want, where the doctor explains how cell metabolism works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PdJFbjWHEU You can lose weight as long as you eat less than you need. Losing weight is different than being healthy. To be lean (decent muscle, low fat) at a decent weight you need proper calories AND proper macro nutrients. What you both are saying is not contradictory. Being "thin" eating shit on a caloric restricted diet will make you feel and look like shit. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On May 30 2014 18:58 iFU.pauline wrote: I know where lies the problem, women in the western world don't know how to cook anymore -_- We were all healthier when they were in the kitchen! hehe Aside of this terrible true joke. Depression and stress caused by the global economic crises might be one of the reason why there is an increase of obesity. We eat more when we are stressed. The truth in your joke is that capitalism has pushed women into the labor pool and has succeeded in commoditizing basic acts of reproduction like cooking and eating. When people spend their days laboring to make ends meet they turn to cheap and hassle-free ways of getting their meals. Turning more meals into commodity services and products provides new markets, which in turn provide new opportunities for capital, but it also reduces the production of those meals to a means for generatig profit, disconnecting the growth and preparation of food from the sensuous human acts of reproduction that they were in our past. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On May 31 2014 03:26 IgnE wrote: The truth in your joke is that capitalism has pushed women into the labor pool and has succeeded in commoditizing basic acts of reproduction like cooking and eating. Oh these poor women! Now they get the chance to do something else than cooking or cleaning! What a terrible change, they had it so much better in the 50's! Seriously, do you give lectures about how to turn everything into critisism of capitalism? | ||
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Ropid
Germany3557 Posts
On May 31 2014 03:34 Nyxisto wrote: Oh these poor women! Now they get the chance to do something else than cooking or cleaning! What a terrible change, they had it so much better in the 50's! Seriously, do you give lectures about how to turn everything into critisism of capitalism? He didn't really judge it, pretty much just wrote down what happened. I like cooking something and sharing that with someone so I'm fine with how it is (as a man).  | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
Fast food restaurant have genetically engineered corn syrup to make the food extremely addicting by tricking the brain. It is up for the people to legislate the production of such food in the market. Unfortunately many people are addicted to it which makes it harder to resists. And McDonald, KFC have shops all around the world and contributed to a lot of USA's GDP, the companies will "legally bribe the government" or another word "lobby" against those points to be taken seriously. In the end, people needs to take action like the 1960s to go on constant strikes so that the USA government should be the one SERVING THE PEOPLE instead of the contemporary vice-versa situation. Another dismay is that people are so immersed to this smartphone and internet culture that they've became too complacent to get out of their butt to do so. Its the degeneracy of the society (especially for the western civilization) but as history have always displayed that no empires last forever and soon there will be another nations to rise up. Then maybe the current number one of the world can wake up to put up a fight but until then, it will get worse before it gets better. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On May 31 2014 03:34 Nyxisto wrote: Oh these poor women! Now they get the chance to do something else than cooking or cleaning! What a terrible change, they had it so much better in the 50's! Seriously, do you give lectures about how to turn everything into critisism of capitalism? Overreact much? Capitalism doesn't care what gender you are now, even though it has a long history of channeling laborer dissatisfaction into liberalized minority politics. I wasn't lamenting the death of the gendered distribution of labor, but rather the way that normal reproductive acts like cooking and eating have been commoditized and pushed to the margins. The wage grinder has far reaching effects. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
For example, say you had to make your own soft ice-cream or bake a cake or doughnuts from scratch. How often would you actually eat those things? This is pretty well represented in the graphs in the OP. 3rd world countries have less access to such foods and have to prepare their food themselves, hence they are generally thinner. Add this to all the other reasons in this thread (less exercise, cars, sedentary jobs, etc) and its no wonder we have an obesity problem. | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On May 31 2014 04:09 aTnClouD wrote: Just found this video. I suggest adding to OP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM + Show Spoiler + Quick rebuttal to his opening claim about the 6 month olds being obese: http://www.cmaj.ca/site/misc/pr/11feb13_pr.xhtml Infants born by cesarean delivery are at increased risk of asthma, obesity and type 1 diabetes, whereas breastfeeding is variably protective against these and other disorders. Not super important, but it does offer an explanation to his initial claim. | ||
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cLAN.Anax
United States2847 Posts
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Sejanus
Lithuania550 Posts
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Thalandros
Netherlands1151 Posts
I was struck by how EASY it is to live healthy if you take a bit of time to do research, a couple of hours a week to practice (not even the excessive amounts some people do). I still sit behind my computer about 6 hours a day during a school day and I'm losing weight. It's just so stupidly easy. YOu just have to make the switch before it's too late. We need something to switch the MINDSET of a lot of people. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On June 02 2014 00:30 Thalandros wrote: I'm 16 and I've been overweight since my 11th. About 8 months I decided I'd throw it around (no idea how, I think I got triggered by watching a guy on youtube I watched and he started gymming actively.) and start gymming once, preferably twice, but atleast once a week in our local gym. I've done mostly cardio and recently started doing weights (because intensiveness --> calorie loss apparently.) on top of that I started eating more fruit and slightly less bad, sugary foods and sweets/chocolate/w/e and be more conscious of what I grab when I go into our closet. I've lost about 8KG in half a year, and I even feel slightly better. I was struck by how EASY it is to live healthy if you take a bit of time to do research, a couple of hours a week to practice (not even the excessive amounts some people do). I still sit behind my computer about 6 hours a day during a school day and I'm losing weight. It's just so stupidly easy. YOu just have to make the switch before it's too late. We need something to switch the MINDSET of a lot of people. Congrats, most people just blame McDonalds instead of changing their habits Feel free to post and visit TL H&F thread http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/sports/439963-teamliquid-health-and-fitness-initiative-for-2014 | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
I think that obesity is on its way to being a worldwide problem. It's only in the early stage now. The future looks bleak though. Imagine cardiovascular problems with every single obese patient. Hypertension, possible diabetes etc... I think having more mandatory gym classes for all students and similarlty in work settings (opt out of if you can prove you go to the gym) as well as making things that are healthier cheaper (that salad example from earlier). Other than that, people making the change themselves. On May 29 2014 21:58 Silvanel wrote:
Not to dismiss problem (because its really serious) but BMI is a joke. I have BMI of 24,8 and everyone says i am skinny. One can be 25 this too. With BMI, if you are older, you'll have a lower BMI though you can be overweight. In the same way, someone who works out can have a higher BMI though he's not overweight. | ||
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SatedSC2
England3012 Posts
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