Isla Vista Shooting - Page 48

On May 30 2014 22:31 Cynry wrote:
One thing for sure, he did achieve attracting a huge amount of attention. Don't know if it's for the better or worse, but he probably changed some people's mind a bit.

On May 30 2014 09:06 Nyxisto wrote:


Make a psychiatric assessment the requirement for anyone under the age of 25 who wants to own firearms, outlaw guns completely for any person that has a history of mental illness that could impair his capability of handling guns.

On May 30 2014 10:12 Nyxisto wrote:
The difference is that guns serve absolutely no purpose for the majority of people owning them.

On May 31 2014 01:18 writer22816 wrote:
Honestly why is it so hard for Americans to part with their guns that they don't even use, in the name of public safety? How many more school shootings will it take before pro-gun activists realize that hey, maybe being able to publicly buy a gun has a factor in how many people get shot? But oh wait, guns dont kill people, people kill people, if they take away our 2nd amendment rights it's only a short step to becoming a complete dictatorship, murica fuck yeah.

On May 30 2014 22:20 Diks wrote:
Hello, I don't know if this video has already been linked; This is a 2 hour analysis by Stefan Molyneux (owner and animator of a popular philosophy show called Freedomain Radio)
He goes pretty deep in the relationship beteween Elliot and women.

Here is briefly a take on his analysis :

Elliot feels like he never connected with women and always got rejected by them.
The root of this comes from the fact that he got rejected and failed to connect with his mom and his step mom.
The image of women that Elliot forged in his head is based on the lack of love from his mother.
This is a pretty deep freudian slip; He saw his mother(s) as being pretty cold bitches.
Elliot was always about those pretty cold bitches. He only talks about pretty blonde girls, and fail to have an interest on other women (which is pretty ironic to have high beauty standard for others, and then bitch about those beauty standards when they become applied to you)
He only fantasized about the sofisticated ladies and ignore the rest.
This kid didn't have a solid bond with any woman, not even his mother.
And when his mother(s) represent 99% of his interaction with women, it becomes more possible to understand how he managed to have such a twisted and negative image of women.



Now you can go back about talking fire arms

On May 31 2014 01:18 writer22816 wrote:
Honestly why is it so hard for Americans to part with their guns that they don't even use, in the name of public safety? How many more school shootings will it take before pro-gun activists realize that hey, maybe being able to publicly buy a gun has a factor in how many people get shot? But oh wait, guns dont kill people, people kill people, if they take away our 2nd amendment rights it's only a short step to becoming a complete dictatorship, murica fuck yeah.

On May 31 2014 01:37 Lockitupv2 wrote:

Do they not teach Chinese History in China?

Also, we use them all the time. And no, not just for shooting people.

On May 31 2014 01:34 Acertos wrote:
Idk why everybody says he was a super narcissist, imo talking about narcissism is just hypocrisy. Everybody loves himself and wants to be above others and that's a completely natural feeling, it's just the extension of our own extinct of survival and domination at work.
The difference is simply made when someone is egoist or not, which is showing or not your love for yourself to others, your narcissism be it in words or actions. So that means that someone extremely egoist will for example hurt others just to better his position.
And yes the guy was an extreme egoist and that's not rly surprising considering his family participated in a French reality show called the housewives which btw is one the most retarded shit you could ever see in a lifetime. Any parents who were not superficial retards wouldn't participate in a show like that as they have to show their real tardness or act like if they were. In the show everybody acts egoistically and usually has already done aesthetic surgery or wants to.

If his whole family favored stupid shit like fame, beauty, outside image, etc... Things that he didn't have then he must have been at least a bit excluded in his family and feel excluded in the outside world (one guy even pointed out that his father told in the show that he only had one son).
With that I can totally see him go into depression and think of himself as weak and uncool and inferior because if he wasn't feeling like that he wouldn't have had to tell everyone that he deserved more in every video of his. (That's speculation)

On May 31 2014 01:34 Acertos wrote:
Idk why everybody says he was a super narcissist, imo talking about narcissism is just hypocrisy. Everybody loves himself and wants to be above others and that's a completely natural feeling, it's just the extension of our own extinct of survival and domination at work.
The difference is simply made when someone is egoist or not, which is showing or not your love for yourself to others, your narcissism be it in words or actions. So that means that someone extremely egoist will for example hurt others just to better his position.
And yes the guy was an extreme egoist and that's not rly surprising considering his family participated in a French reality show called the housewives which btw is one the most retarded shit you could ever see in a lifetime. Any parents who were not superficial retards wouldn't participate in a show like that as they have to show their real tardness or act like if they were. In the show everybody acts egoistically and usually has already done aesthetic surgery or wants to.

If his whole family favored stupid shit like fame, beauty, outside image, etc... Things that he didn't have then he must have been at least a bit excluded in his family and feel excluded in the outside world (one guy even pointed out that his father told in the show that he only had one son).
With that I can totally see him go into depression and think of himself as weak and uncool and inferior because if he wasn't feeling like that he wouldn't have had to tell everyone that he deserved more in every video of his. (That's speculation)

On May 31 2014 01:34 Acertos wrote:
Idk why everybody says he was a super narcissist, imo talking about narcissism is just hypocrisy. Everybody loves himself and wants to be above others and that's a completely natural feeling, it's just the extension of our own extinct of survival and domination at work.
The difference is simply made when someone is egoist or not, which is showing or not your love for yourself to others, your narcissism be it in words or actions. So that means that someone extremely egoist will for example hurt others just to better his position.
And yes the guy was an extreme egoist and that's not rly surprising considering his family participated in a French reality show called the housewives which btw is one the most retarded shit you could ever see in a lifetime. Any parents who were not superficial retards wouldn't participate in a show like that as they have to show their real tardness or act like if they were. In the show everybody acts egoistically and usually has already done aesthetic surgery or wants to.

If his whole family favored stupid shit like fame, beauty, outside image, etc... Things that he didn't have then he must have been at least a bit excluded in his family and feel excluded in the outside world (one guy even pointed out that his father told in the show that he only had one son).
With that I can totally see him go into depression and think of himself as weak and uncool and inferior because if he wasn't feeling like that he wouldn't have had to tell everyone that he deserved more in every video of his. (That's speculation)

On May 30 2014 20:55 Xiphos wrote:
Elliot Rodger’s family has been part of a reality show the last seven years often recorded in his house. This is significant because his father on the show has always said he has “a” son, as in only one. In this video from the TV show it shows the father at the family table with the son from the second marriage, but not Elliot.

Link:

Elliot is shown in the show, for example when they met Sylvester Stallone (23:50), but Elliot is never acknowledged or speaks. Imagine a father that has a reality show in the house, keeps talking about “his son” and the “three of us” as in “Mother, Father, and son” as opposed to sons.

Elliot mentions the jealousy he has for the other brother. The fact his father says on TV, in the house Elliot lives in, that he has one son, might be enough to push someone over the edge.

If you go to 23:50 you can see Elliot in the back ground. The crazy part is if you see them shaking Stallone's hand, Elliot reaches out to shake his hand but the new wife is the target jumps in and Elliot is ignored and he awkwardly puts his hand down. Jumping with excitement to meet a perceived superstar and then being shunned by your own mother.

In other words, complete family dysfunction.

On May 31 2014 01:00 Yoav wrote:

This is nonsense. Target shooting is an awful lot of fun.

On May 31 2014 01:34 Acertos wrote:
Idk why everybody says he was a super narcissist, imo talking about narcissism is just hypocrisy. Everybody loves himself and wants to be above others and that's a completely natural feeling, it's just the extension of our own extinct of survival and domination at work.
The difference is simply made when someone is egoist or not, which is showing or not your love for yourself to others, your narcissism be it in words or actions. So that means that someone extremely egoist will for example hurt others just to better his position.
And yes the guy was an extreme egoist and that's not rly surprising considering his family participated in a French reality show called the housewives which btw is one the most retarded shit you could ever see in a lifetime. Any parents who were not superficial retards wouldn't participate in a show like that as they have to show their real tardness or act like if they were. In the show everybody acts egoistically and usually has already done aesthetic surgery or wants to.

If his whole family favored stupid shit like fame, beauty, outside image, etc... Things that he didn't have then he must have been at least a bit excluded in his family and feel excluded in the outside world (one guy even pointed out that his father told in the show that he only had one son).
With that I can totally see him go into depression and think of himself as weak and uncool and inferior because if he wasn't feeling like that he wouldn't have had to tell everyone that he deserved more in every video of his. (That's speculation)

Females truly have something mentally wrong with them. Their minds are flawed, and at this point in my life I was beginning to see it. The more I explored my college town of Isla Vista, the more ridiculousness I witnessed. All of the hot, beautiful girls walked around with obnoxious, tough jock-type men who partied all the time and acted crazy. They should be going for intelligent gentlemen such as myself. Women are sexually attracted to the wrong type of man. This is a major flaw in the very foundation of humanity. It is completely and utterly wrong, in every sense of the word. As these truths fully dawned on me, I became deeply disturbed by them. Deeply disturbed, offended, and traumatized.

On May 31 2014 09:22 Clbull wrote:
I literally spent 40 minutes rewriting this post because I'm worried I'm going to say something ban-worthy.

I was alerted to this case after reading a Facebook post pretty much blaming 'rape culture' and the idea that men feel entitled to sex simply because of one mentally ill 22 year old virgin's behaviour. I hate the MRA and Feminist responses to Elliot Rodger's crimes. With the scaremongering coming from both groups in regards to their skewed gender stereotypes (i.e. 'women are sluts', 'men will rape you'), the only thing they've accomplished is make each gender distrust each other even more.

This quote from Rodger (page 84 of his 140 page 'autobiography') is one of the main things that fuelled this argument.



As a guy in a similar situation to him (22 years old, unsuccessful with ladies, still a virgin,) this quote disgusts me.

There is one thing I will say though; society has taught us that friendliness, respect, placing somebody on a pedestal and showering them with material gifts is the key to winning a person's heart.

But back to what I think of this incident? After reading quite a bit of his autobiography to see what made him tick, I'm under the conclusion that it could have been a parenting or schooling issue. He was bullied by both boys and girls rather harshly while at school and even summer camp since the age of 12. From the sound of it, it also seemed like his family was more concerned with his MMORPG gaming habits rather than his situation at school and it seemed like teaching staff didn't help him.