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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-04 17:22:14
April 04 2014 17:02 GMT
#801
On April 05 2014 00:53 FFW_Rude wrote:

Do you have a source of the pieces not part from the plane ?


It was on the Austrian news: www.orf.at.
Also, if the found debris would have been identified to be part of the plane, it would have been somewhere on the news.

Here is the live log:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/missing-flight-mh370-live-updates-3363920
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6329 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-05 11:57:52
April 05 2014 11:47 GMT
#802
It is reported that a Chinese search vessel detected a signal of 37.5KHz frequency pulsing every second in Southern Indian Ocean, which is indeed the behavior of a Black Box's Underwater Locating Beacon.
http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2014-04-05/185029872980.shtml (Chinese with news video from CCTV)
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HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
April 05 2014 13:52 GMT
#803
On April 05 2014 20:47 digmouse wrote:
It is reported that a Chinese search vessel detected a signal of 37.5KHz frequency pulsing every second in Southern Indian Ocean, which is indeed the behavior of a Black Box's Underwater Locating Beacon.
http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2014-04-05/185029872980.shtml (Chinese with news video from CCTV)


Oh boy.....
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
April 05 2014 16:47 GMT
#804
They detected it for 15 minutes Friday but were surprised (they we in the middle of no where outside of designated search areas). They detected it for 90s today and couldn't get a recording either around here.

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Where the under water topography looks like:
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The signal might be being blocked by under water formations.
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Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
April 05 2014 21:11 GMT
#805
Where did you get that underwater map?
Yourmomsbasement
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada87 Posts
April 05 2014 22:52 GMT
#806
On April 06 2014 06:11 Whole wrote:
Where did you get that underwater map?

I was wondering too. Very neat.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
April 05 2014 23:38 GMT
#807
Looks like an old National Geographic map.

Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
April 06 2014 01:48 GMT
#808
Heard something about the plane being found in the Indian Ocean... Reading the last few pages of this thread makes me think it didn't really happen though
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-06 04:31:05
April 06 2014 04:04 GMT
#809
It looks like the Ocean Shield (the AU ship with the US towed pinger locator) picked up a signal 90 minutes ago north of where the Chinese were at. This was at the live press conference so reports in writing haven't been thrown up on CNN yet.



Apparently the Chinese have picked up the signal yet again (this is referring to the Saturday morning).



I think at this point its kinda doubtful that they are getting trolled by a whale or anything. I guess we should be cautiously optimistic now.

Edit: I stole the maps from http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-464.html.

The guys on this forum know a lot, one guy even took part in a similar search a few decades ago. You can read his opinion of the current search here (its interesting regardless):

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-462.html#post8418871

Edit 2: Apparently the CNN twitter is referring to the the 90 second pick up by the Chinese yesterday.

Edit:3:

The AU signal pickup by the Ocean Shield was 300 nm north so it may be a false positive unless water conditions are permitting it to travel extremely far.

From http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6045158/#292

Conference has ended. Here are the major takeaways since I was editing my previous post and you may not have seen all the changes.

1. Three separate acoustic events they are looking at right now:
a. one by Haixun 01 on Friday night Perth time that was of a "short" duration;
b. a second event of about 90 seconds at 15.47 Saturday Perth time also by Haixun 01 about 2km distant from first detection; and,
c. a third event about 90 minutes before the start of the press conference (Sunday, about 10am Perth time) by the Ocean Shield, about 300 nm away from the Haixun's location.

2. The Haixun's events were described as being "consistent" with ULBs. There was no information about the Ocean Shield's detection yet.

3. Based on revisions from Inmarsat, the plane is more likely to be in the southern portion of the current search zone. This is where the Haixun 01 heard the pings on Friday and Saturday.

4. HMS Echo is en route to Haixun 01's location and will be there within 14 hours.

5. Ocean Shield will remain on station until at least early afternoon Sunday Perth time to investigate the acoustic event they heard on Sunday morning Perth time. If they do decide it's nothing, it will take about 2-3 hours to retrieve the towed pinger locator, about 24 hours to reach the Haixun's location, and about 2-3 hours to redeploy the locator.

6. The Australians first heard about the Friday event from media, and were informed shortly thereafter officially by China. The second event was first communicated to the Australians and then media reports broke.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6226 Posts
April 06 2014 07:36 GMT
#810
Worth noting that the black box will be getting dangerously close to its 30-day limit here.

Pretty tense, tbh.
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
April 06 2014 09:44 GMT
#811
On April 06 2014 13:04 Antisocialmunky wrote:
It looks like the Ocean Shield (the AU ship with the US towed pinger locator) picked up a signal 90 minutes ago north of where the Chinese were at. This was at the live press conference so reports in writing haven't been thrown up on CNN yet.

https://twitter.com/KatyTurNBC/status/452656878762201088

Apparently the Chinese have picked up the signal yet again (this is referring to the Saturday morning).

https://twitter.com/CNNjoe/status/452659895947374593

I think at this point its kinda doubtful that they are getting trolled by a whale or anything. I guess we should be cautiously optimistic now.

Edit: I stole the maps from http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-464.html.

The guys on this forum know a lot, one guy even took part in a similar search a few decades ago. You can read his opinion of the current search here (its interesting regardless):

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/535538-malaysian-airlines-mh370-contact-lost-462.html#post8418871

Edit 2: Apparently the CNN twitter is referring to the the 90 second pick up by the Chinese yesterday.

Edit:3:

The AU signal pickup by the Ocean Shield was 300 nm north so it may be a false positive unless water conditions are permitting it to travel extremely far.

From http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6045158/#292
Show nested quote +

Conference has ended. Here are the major takeaways since I was editing my previous post and you may not have seen all the changes.

1. Three separate acoustic events they are looking at right now:
a. one by Haixun 01 on Friday night Perth time that was of a "short" duration;
b. a second event of about 90 seconds at 15.47 Saturday Perth time also by Haixun 01 about 2km distant from first detection; and,
c. a third event about 90 minutes before the start of the press conference (Sunday, about 10am Perth time) by the Ocean Shield, about 300 nm away from the Haixun's location.

2. The Haixun's events were described as being "consistent" with ULBs. There was no information about the Ocean Shield's detection yet.

3. Based on revisions from Inmarsat, the plane is more likely to be in the southern portion of the current search zone. This is where the Haixun 01 heard the pings on Friday and Saturday.

4. HMS Echo is en route to Haixun 01's location and will be there within 14 hours.

5. Ocean Shield will remain on station until at least early afternoon Sunday Perth time to investigate the acoustic event they heard on Sunday morning Perth time. If they do decide it's nothing, it will take about 2-3 hours to retrieve the towed pinger locator, about 24 hours to reach the Haixun's location, and about 2-3 hours to redeploy the locator.

6. The Australians first heard about the Friday event from media, and were informed shortly thereafter officially by China. The second event was first communicated to the Australians and then media reports broke.


You're trolled by a whale gag made me chuckle thanks
Chill Winston......
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
April 07 2014 07:52 GMT
#812
It appears the Ocean Shield has picked up pings twice just like the Chinese but 600 km away. The first for 2 hours 20 minutes, the second for 30 seconds. What's encouraging is they detected 2 different sounding pings which is what you would expect from both the Flight Recorder and Cockpit Voice Recorder. They have a recording so analysis is being done.
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Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6226 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 08:03:34
April 07 2014 08:02 GMT
#813
Wait, so we have confirmed black-box-like pings from two different areas separated by six hundred km?

This is starting to look like the "we found debris!" game all over again.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 08:20:40
April 07 2014 08:16 GMT
#814
There's been reports from 4 vessels but everything other than the Chinese and Australian/US ones have been discounted.

The Chinese reports seems more suspect than the Australian/US ones because the Chinese didn't get recordings and there's a question on whether or not their methodology is reasonable. They detected a signal using a hydrophone on a stick held underwater from a inflatable boat after all. This doesn't rule the Chinese reports out, only make it less likely they are correct. On the other hand, water conditions are unpredictable and hard to ascertain. Those have huge effects on sound travel under water so maybe the Chinese got supremely lucky.

Since the Australian/US one has been recorded using a proper deep sea probe and they've reported that 2 different pings were detected a reasonable distance apart, that's probably the best candidate.


... unless a Megalodon is swimming around with it lodged in its teeth.
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FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
April 07 2014 08:37 GMT
#815
IS this thing updated => http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/missing-flight-mh370-live-updates-3363920

Or was it just for the 5th ?
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sUgArMaNiAc
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia110 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-07 09:03:45
April 07 2014 09:00 GMT
#816
Heard on Aussie news that an Australian boat found a signal again and is about to deploy an un-manned sub to go down and take a peek.
No luck catching those swans then?
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
April 07 2014 09:03 GMT
#817
On April 07 2014 17:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
IS this thing updated => http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/missing-flight-mh370-live-updates-3363920

Or was it just for the 5th ?

This works:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3219331
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
April 07 2014 09:12 GMT
#818
On April 07 2014 18:03 urboss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2014 17:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
IS this thing updated => http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/missing-flight-mh370-live-updates-3363920

Or was it just for the 5th ?

This works:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-live-3219331


Nice. Thank you.
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Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
April 07 2014 09:14 GMT
#819
On April 06 2014 07:52 Yourmomsbasement wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 06:11 Whole wrote:
Where did you get that underwater map?

I was wondering too. Very neat.


And I was wondering too. Here it is: http://www.maps.com/map.aspx?cid=636&pid=15898
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
April 07 2014 09:25 GMT
#820
On April 07 2014 18:14 Arevall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 07:52 Yourmomsbasement wrote:
On April 06 2014 06:11 Whole wrote:
Where did you get that underwater map?

I was wondering too. Very neat.


And I was wondering too. Here it is: http://www.maps.com/map.aspx?cid=636&pid=15898


Wow, I didn't know that river deltas leave such a big mark on the ocean floor.
For example, that Ganges Cone is huge, so is the one for Indus.
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