On March 13 2014 19:48 radiatoren wrote: And the latest two speculations have been addressed. The chinese pictures were not authorized or endorsed. At the same time, it covers water that has been searched thoroughly even after another look at the site.
The Rolls Royce information of a 5 hour flight from the flight data has been addressed as 'inaccurate' after the investigators talked to Boeng and Rolls Royce. The last ACARS data were from 1:07 (11 minutes before last tower contact and 23 minutes before plane another plane called and heard "mumbling"). These data were showing a plane working perfectly. source
I don't know, that report is from a transport minister, not from Rolls Royce, Boeing, or an American official, of which all three were a subject of the Wall Street Journal article.
Here's a visual of the potential range of that craft if the report is true:
So you're saying the plane could have got to it's destination. It was heading towards Beijing, yeah?
Unless you believe that China and the USA are currently fighting together in Tehran against the Iranians to rescue flight 370 which the Iranians stole after a US spy satellite blew it up.
Communication satellites received intermittent data "pings" from a missing Malaysia Airlines jet, giving the plane's location, speed and altitude for at least five hours after it disappeared from civilian radar screens, people briefed on the investigation said Thursday.... Source
A US government source says that communications systems were shut off separately.
Two U.S. officials tell ABC News the U.S. believes that the shutdown of two communication systems happened separately on Malaysia Airlines Flight 370. One source said this indicates the plane did not come out of the sky because of a catastrophic failure.
The data reporting system, they believe, was shut down at 1:07 a.m. The transponder -- which transmits location and altitude -- shut down at 1:21 a.m. ...
And another US government source expressed a high likelihood that the airliner crashed into the Indian Ocean.
Malaysian authorities believe they have several "pings" from the airliner's service data system, known as ACARS, transmitted to satellites in the four to five hours after the last transponder signal, suggesting the plane flew to the Indian Ocean, a senior U.S. official told CNN. That information combined with known radar data and knowledge of fuel range leads officials to believe the plane may have made it to that ocean, which is in the opposite direction of the plane's original route.
"There is probably a significant likelihood" that the aircraft is now on the bottom of the Indian Ocean, the official said, citing information Malaysia has shared with the United States. ...
On March 14 2014 10:44 hifriend wrote: Can the communication systems be easily shut off in these airliners? I mean, for what purpose? Seems like you'd want to keep track of them in the case of hijackings etc.
I don't think any of the electronical systems in modern aircraft are automatically enabled when the APU is switched on, so there's probably a switch or four that control the power to the comms systems, not much more. I'm not an aircraft expert, though, so don't quote me on that.
Malaysia Airlines 3786.KU +2.13% ' missing jet transmitted its location repeatedly to satellites over the course of five hours after it disappeared from radar, people briefed on the matter said, as searchers zeroed in on new target areas hundreds of miles west of the plane's original course.
The satellites also received speed and altitude information about the plane from its intermittent "pings," the people said. The final ping was sent from over water, at what one of these people called a normal cruising altitude. They added that it was unclear why the pings stopped. One of the people, an industry official, said it was possible that the system sending them had been disabled by someone on board.
What Malaysian prime minister said at the conference is as good as a confirmation for hijacking what a mess... I don't have much hope for the survival of passengers though
On March 15 2014 15:37 Yiome wrote: What Malaysian prime minister said at the conference is as good as a confirmation for hijacking what a mess... I don't have much hope for the survival of passengers though
And then the lead investigator denied hijacking allegations...?
At this point, it's a clusterfuck of misinformation/incompetence on various levels. I really feel sorry for the families who just want closure at this point.
Well the pattern that has emerged with the Malaysians seems pretty simple. Official A says something which Official B denies. Official A ends up being right. The official press conference is probably going with the scenario that's extremely likely while the investigator is still investigating various possibilities with the hijacking one the primary focus. Both are telling the truth from their various PoVs. They really just need to get a better handle on information control.
What a mess, who knows, maybe the plane is still in one piece and everyone is hanging around in rafts.
On March 11 2014 07:41 vAtAZz wrote: According to the french newspaper site Le Figaro, it has been reported that some of the cell phones belonging to Chinese people who were in the plane are still ringing.
The plane may have been stolen, and all the people taken hostage.
Selon le Washington Post, plusieurs numéros de téléphone des passagers présents à bord du Boeing continueraient de sonner, assurent des proches qui ont tenté de les joindre. La logique voudrait qu'ils soient hors service, s'ils sont immergés, ou que l'avion s'est désintégré. Le site China.org indique ainsi que 19 familles ont signé un communiqué commun attestant que plusieurs numéros de téléphones sont toujours actifs. Ces proches ont tenté de contacter les autorités pour qu'elles traquent ces téléphones et qu'elles retrouvent la trace de l'avion. Mais elles n'ont pour l'instant pas reçu de réponse.
According to the Washington Post, several phone numbers of passengers on board the Boeing continue ringing ensure relatives who tried to join. Logic would dictate that they are off, they are immersed, or that the aircraft disintegrated. The website indicates China.org and 19 families have signed a joint communiqué stating that several phone numbers are still active. These relatives tried to contact the authorities to track down these phones and they found the trace of the plane. But they have so far received no reply.
So now my hypothesis is being confirmed. At least it looks like it follows the same path.
On March 11 2014 07:41 vAtAZz wrote: According to the french newspaper site Le Figaro, it has been reported that some of the cell phones belonging to Chinese people who were in the plane are still ringing.
The plane may have been stolen, and all the people taken hostage.
Selon le Washington Post, plusieurs numéros de téléphone des passagers présents à bord du Boeing continueraient de sonner, assurent des proches qui ont tenté de les joindre. La logique voudrait qu'ils soient hors service, s'ils sont immergés, ou que l'avion s'est désintégré. Le site China.org indique ainsi que 19 familles ont signé un communiqué commun attestant que plusieurs numéros de téléphones sont toujours actifs. Ces proches ont tenté de contacter les autorités pour qu'elles traquent ces téléphones et qu'elles retrouvent la trace de l'avion. Mais elles n'ont pour l'instant pas reçu de réponse.
According to the Washington Post, several phone numbers of passengers on board the Boeing continue ringing ensure relatives who tried to join. Logic would dictate that they are off, they are immersed, or that the aircraft disintegrated. The website indicates China.org and 19 families have signed a joint communiqué stating that several phone numbers are still active. These relatives tried to contact the authorities to track down these phones and they found the trace of the plane. But they have so far received no reply.
So now my hypothesis is being confirmed. At least it looks like it follows the same path.
The ringing phones thing was disproved though, so that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
On March 11 2014 07:41 vAtAZz wrote: According to the french newspaper site Le Figaro, it has been reported that some of the cell phones belonging to Chinese people who were in the plane are still ringing.
The plane may have been stolen, and all the people taken hostage.
Selon le Washington Post, plusieurs numéros de téléphone des passagers présents à bord du Boeing continueraient de sonner, assurent des proches qui ont tenté de les joindre. La logique voudrait qu'ils soient hors service, s'ils sont immergés, ou que l'avion s'est désintégré. Le site China.org indique ainsi que 19 familles ont signé un communiqué commun attestant que plusieurs numéros de téléphones sont toujours actifs. Ces proches ont tenté de contacter les autorités pour qu'elles traquent ces téléphones et qu'elles retrouvent la trace de l'avion. Mais elles n'ont pour l'instant pas reçu de réponse.
According to the Washington Post, several phone numbers of passengers on board the Boeing continue ringing ensure relatives who tried to join. Logic would dictate that they are off, they are immersed, or that the aircraft disintegrated. The website indicates China.org and 19 families have signed a joint communiqué stating that several phone numbers are still active. These relatives tried to contact the authorities to track down these phones and they found the trace of the plane. But they have so far received no reply.
So now my hypothesis is being confirmed. At least it looks like it follows the same path.
The ringing phones thing was disproved though, so that doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Was wondering about that, if there's cells ringing in the plane, the plane would've been found by now.
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