Announcing the shift to a criminal investigation, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said investigators now "can say with a high degree of certainty" that one or more of the 239 people on board the Boeing jet deliberately turned off two aircraft signaling systems within 40 minutes after takeoff from Kuala Lumpur.
The plane made a sharp turn westward, away from its authorized route to Beijing, and from then on the flight path was "consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane," Mr. Najib told a packed news conference.
Malaysia also announced that the high-priority, international search would move to two huge new areas spanning the Bay of Bengal and reaching deep into the southern Indian Ocean, dwarfing sections that previously were searched in the South China Sea and the Gulf of Thailand without finding anything related to the aircraft.
The massive water and sea search initially seems to be targeting at least several hundred thousand square miles of water — an area potentially much larger than Texas — in a region that includes some of the world's deepest and most impenetrable underwater topography.
The search areas may be refined, as investigators continue to analyze radar and satellite data to better understand the flight path of the plane after it vanished from civilian air-traffic control radars a week ago.
The plane flew some 6½ hours past that point, while continuing to transmit limited location information to communication satellites owned by Inmarsat PLC. Once the final transmission from the plane was received, according to people familiar with the matter, investigators suspect it had enough fuel in its tanks to fly hundreds of additional miles while avoiding any satellite tracking.
I still don't think it's terrorists, did no country get any demands? What about the aim? How come no terrorist group comes out to claim responsibility?
On March 16 2014 10:35 itsjustatank wrote: it doesnt have to be terrorism. could just be suicide by plane on the part of one or both of the co-pilots, or really anyone aboard
Why wait that long? The cases pre-9/11 that it happened, the suicidal pilot just nose dived the plane quickly. This was *hours*. So, something is up.
But, with the new search area, it either went way, way South (which wouldn't Indonesian military have seen it?) or it's somewhere over Chinese air-space. Things are getting stranger.
Hrmm... the new map opens up a lot of interesting possibilities. The satellite only has a Time Stamp & Distance from the satellite, so anywhere on that circle is where it could have been.
It is possible that it flew North out of the Andaman Sea over the Shan State of Burma, then along the Himalayas to the Northwest. It could pull this off without going into Chinese territory until past Bhutan. If they fly a "little low" through that region, you're not that far off the ground. (Makes life hell for most radar) I wouldn't expect Burma's Air Force to scramble that quickly, plus they don't actually control the Shan State, which limits bases & options.
Or it all the way around Indonesia headed towards Christmas Island/Australia. What's Western Australia radar coverage like?
On March 16 2014 10:35 itsjustatank wrote: it doesnt have to be terrorism. could just be suicide by plane on the part of one or both of the co-pilots, or really anyone aboard
i really don't buy into suicide, it's just way too orchestrated to be suicide. why do you even bother flying for ~5 more hours, you don't even need to divert course. even the communications shutdown doesn't make sense, if you wanted to suicide you'd need the cooperation or the incapacitation of your co-pilot anyway. i'm doubtful they'll ever find it.
On March 16 2014 10:35 itsjustatank wrote: it doesnt have to be terrorism. could just be suicide by plane on the part of one or both of the co-pilots, or really anyone aboard
i really don't buy into suicide, it's just way too orchestrated to be suicide. why do you even bother flying for ~5 more hours, you don't even need to divert course. even the communications shutdown doesn't make sense, if you wanted to suicide you'd need the cooperation or the incapacitation of your co-pilot anyway. i'm doubtful they'll ever find it.
You are right, suicide doesn't add up either. My bet is the pilot(s) are hijacking for some nefarious purpose.
" Five major technological communications military contractor companies have high-tech employees and executives on the MH370 passenger manifest, two American and three Asia Pacific – each strongly tied to military: China Telecom, Business Machines Corp., Austin-based Freescale, International Business Machines (IBM), ZTE Corp., and Huawei Technologies Co. Combined, they have 26 high-tech experts on the passenger manifest list, including two executives. One of these companies refused to identify its employees onboard, and investigators also withheld those identities."
I wish the news channels would stop pestering with random speculation ranging from aliens to terrorism without forgetting the totally reasonable organ traffic theory. If they're no new development in a story, no need to make stuff up...
It's events like this that remind us (again) that the news is now just a game where the best vulture wins. And not all articles about this are bad but come on.
On March 16 2014 13:05 Djzapz wrote: I wish the news channels would stop pestering with random speculation ranging from aliens to terrorism without forgetting the totally reasonable organ traffic theory. If they're no new development in a story, no need to make stuff up...
It's events like this that remind us (again) that the news is now just a game where the best vulture wins. And not all articles about this are bad but come on.
Even informed speculation runs into a lot of problems on stories like these. We now have a 777 in the air for 7+ hours without ground contact and apparently not pinging any (admitted) military radar in the region the entire time. Once you pass from "accident" to "intentionally taken", which has been obvious since 2 days after the disappearance, practically anything is on the table.
And, at this point, the reality is that a State actor is involved. Resources to compromise the flight, skills to avoid most radar, shut off most of the communication systems, lock down the passengers and have a landing location somewhere in the "off the map" locations of the world. The Op wouldn't take a lot of people, but it's a pretty specific set of skills & planning (and the fact that the passengers, post-9/11, aren't going to sit idly around). But there's still 0 reasons for "Why" presented. So, something or someone on the plane was wanted bad enough to do this. (A government group involved could have been from dozens of countries, so your guess is as good as mine.)
The line coming out of Malaysia seems to be to attempt to paint the main pilot as a political radical, but that'd only make sense if he'd crashed the plane into a government building. This doesn't come across as anti-Malaysian regime. Unless they knew how incompetent their handling of a disaster would be.
Someone or something was special enough about this Plane to do something not done (at least to public knowledge) in the age of Modern Aircraft. That's the real question at the moment.
I just hope they find out what happened and where it went so I can stop hearing/seeing it all over the news. I mean there are real news stories out there instead of endless speculation by people with little or no investigative experience or any basic knowledge about the aircraft or people they are speculating about.
On March 16 2014 13:05 Djzapz wrote: I wish the news channels would stop pestering with random speculation ranging from aliens to terrorism without forgetting the totally reasonable organ traffic theory. If they're no new development in a story, no need to make stuff up...
It's events like this that remind us (again) that the news is now just a game where the best vulture wins. And not all articles about this are bad but come on.
Even informed speculation runs into a lot of problems on stories like these. We now have a 777 in the air for 7+ hours without ground contact and apparently not pinging any (admitted) military radar in the region the entire time. Once you pass from "accident" to "intentionally taken", which has been obvious since 2 days after the disappearance, practically anything is on the table.
And, at this point, the reality is that a State actor is involved. Resources to compromise the flight, skills to avoid most radar, shut off most of the communication systems, lock down the passengers and have a landing location somewhere in the "off the map" locations of the world. The Op wouldn't take a lot of people, but it's a pretty specific set of skills & planning (and the fact that the passengers, post-9/11, aren't going to sit idly around). But there's still 0 reasons for "Why" presented. So, something or someone on the plane was wanted bad enough to do this. (A government group involved could have been from dozens of countries, so your guess is as good as mine.)
The line coming out of Malaysia seems to be to attempt to paint the main pilot as a political radical, but that'd only make sense if he'd crashed the plane into a government building. This doesn't come across as anti-Malaysian regime. Unless they knew how incompetent their handling of a disaster would be.
Someone or something was special enough about this Plane to do something not done (at least to public knowledge) in the age of Modern Aircraft. That's the real question at the moment.
I'm aware of the implications. But here's a headline on my local news website "Flight MH370: Pilots and passengers in the crosshair of the investigation"... Then the article is packed to the brim with various random ideas. We're in the middle of elections here and the most thorough articles we get loosely tells us about something we don't know about - over and over.
I happened to watch the second Ron Burgundy last night and it felt strangely familiar. And again I'm not saying that we shouldn't hear about it, we definitely DO need to hear about it. But at this point the fuckers know it's what gets them clicks so they'll write empty articles non-stop to cover this. So they should get something substantial instead of spouting nonsense because it entertains people.
EPT
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