EPTWorld Chess Championship 2013 - Page 69
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vndestiny
Singapore3440 Posts
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
I wouldn't say this result necessarily favors Carlsen, since he is very unlikely to lose with white at this point, and the match could have easily been sealed had Anand taken some crazy risk. I believe that Carlsen also has white in game 12, so even if Anand somehow comes back and wins two, Carlsen will hold all of the cards. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On November 19 2013 23:27 marvellosity wrote: I think basically at this stage, Carlsen's plan is to be unexciting and wait for Anand to overextend himself. I'm sure he'd be happy repeating this game over and over. Or just let the clock run out. I'm not even sure he would take a better position, with some chances of losing, over a forced draw. | ||
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urboss
Austria1223 Posts
The Vienna Gambit The main idea is: "The king is an important attacking piece as long as it doesn't get mated." | ||
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FalconHoof
Canada183 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
But on a real note, has Anand given up? Can he really afford to play like this? | ||
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wingpawn
Poland1342 Posts
As for the titles, sometimes the difference between GMs and IMs is that the latter failed to gain their norms by mere half of a point or didn't manage to compete in a strong enough tournament yet. Plus that active IM like Sachdev could easily beat GM Polgar now, when Susan isn't playing in GM tournaments anymore (she became a Texas college coach around 2006). That Indian Lady is soo charming. I loved when Trent asked her to guess when today's position of Ruy Lopez was played first and she gave year 1857 - the year of Indian rebellion against British regime (Trent is a Brit). Witty... | ||
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Icx
Belgium853 Posts
On November 20 2013 06:39 ch33psh33p wrote: But on a real note, has Anand given up? Can he really afford to play like this? I may be completely wrong (I actually hope I am). But I feel like Anand after the second loss has just given up completely, the way he plays and acts in the press conference for example. It's like he just is going: "okay carlsen isn't gonna press hard, I'm just gonna draw, I lose but with only 2 losses". Seeing how there are only 4 more games left now, I would have suspected him for the last 2 games to have some fighting spirit and "go big or ho home" Today is actually the first game I didn't watch, and probably won't be watching anymore (except for after the next draw, maybe we will see carlsen playing for a win to close it out at 6.5points), because 2 players having the mindset to draw every game isn't really fun for the viewers (and I can't fault carlsen here, since 1 loss for him, would suddenly put him in a somewhat of a dangerous position compared to being 2 games up). | ||
Jer99
Canada8157 Posts
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18420 Posts
On November 20 2013 07:25 Grumbels wrote: can you actually lose as white if your opponent plays the berlin defense? Anand did... | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
On November 20 2013 06:47 wingpawn wrote: To be honest, quality of the commentary doesn't have that much to do with the title those guys carry. As seen many times already, Trent and Sachdev are by no means worse at finding possible lines of play and justifying it. Also, they are much more entertaining and energetic, wheras Polgar sounds like a teacher giving a lecture to noobish kids. As for the titles, sometimes the difference between GMs and IMs is that the latter failed to gain their norms by mere half of a point or didn't manage to compete in a strong enough tournament yet. Plus that active IM like Sachdev could easily beat GM Polgar now, when Susan isn't playing in GM tournaments anymore (she became a Texas college coach around 2006). That Indian Lady is soo charming. I loved when Trent asked her to guess when today's position of Ruy Lopez was played first and she gave year 1857 - the year of Indian rebellion against British regime (Trent is a Brit). Witty... I really don't like Trent's analysis. He was fun to listen to with Short since Short did all the heavy lifting, but some of the comments I've heard out of Trent this match have just been bizarre (I haven't been watching the main stream that much though). Game 3 for example, he was actually convinced that white's position had been improved after Qh1 and that c5 was a concession from Vishy. Anyway, it doesn't matter much. I'm happy with ICC's coverage and if people are enjoying the main stream, all the better. I do still wish we could have had Svidler though. Damn European Team Championship.  | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7031 Posts
Well, if you intend to draw as white. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 20 2013 07:25 Grumbels wrote: Can you actually lose as white if your opponent plays the berlin defense? It depends. Assuming equal skill... If white wants a draw, he/she can just play into one of the many dull/drawish/non-dynamic sidelines. It's surely *possible* for white to lose, but it's pretty damn difficult. Black definitely has winning chances in the mainline end-game. Just take a look at Game 4 of this match - Carlsen had an edge for most of the game as Black. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
Keep in mind that this holds true for most openings. It's really hard for black to press for a win against a top GM when white wants to draw the game. White often has many resources to control the pace and tempo of the game in almost all sound opening lines. | ||
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Poetic[AoV]
United Kingdom183 Posts
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