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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 10 2013 07:26 GMT
#361
Garry Kasparov comments on game 1:
First, a few brief comments on today's Carlsen-Anand game. Brief comments are fitting for such a brief game.
I imagine Anand's 2..g6 was a surprise for Magnus, and 4..c6 as well. Then White has a big choice: to play c4 & sacrifice a pawn, or not.
Sacrificing the pawn with c4 would not be a typical position for Magnus but Anand (& his second Leko) know those positions well.
But without c4 by White Black gets a very solid position, even if he plays the Nbd2 I'd prefer to Carlsen's Nc3. Little danger for Black.
I remember Anand played this in his 1994 NYC candidates match against Romanishin, who played c4 & drew one & lost one. Can be quite sharp.
First games of big matches are often tentative. Both get a half point but it's great to start any event with an easy draw with black!
Anand & I drew first 8 games of our 1995 world championship match. But then, boom! Next 4/5 were decisive & the match was basically over.
So do not get too depressed with a slow start. Of my 7 world championship matches, 5 started with draw in first game.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 10 2013 09:30 GMT
#362
1. e4 c6 :O!
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 10 2013 09:32 GMT
#363
Nice, Caro-Kann
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
November 10 2013 09:34 GMT
#364
I always enjoy Caro-Kann in action, lets see what is going to happen
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
November 10 2013 09:39 GMT
#365
Carlsen playing like it's a blitz match :O
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
November 10 2013 09:39 GMT
#366
Carlsen seems to be better prepared this time..
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
November 10 2013 09:41 GMT
#367
wow, a caro-kann :D

very interesting game!
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
November 10 2013 09:42 GMT
#368
Slightly unusual choice by Carlsen playing e6 before Nd7, allowing Ne5 with tempo. White should be doing better here than in the main line, right?
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 10 2013 09:43 GMT
#369
I couldn't watch yesterday's game live, but what's going on with the openings lol. Yesterday we get a casual Nf3 g3 and today it's Caro time? Well, should avoid a lot of Anand's preparation at least. :p
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Zvoboo
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany160 Posts
November 10 2013 09:43 GMT
#370
What stream do you guys recommend? Considering I'm pretty much a novice at chess.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 10 2013 09:45 GMT
#371
On November 10 2013 18:43 Zvoboo wrote:
What stream do you guys recommend? Considering I'm pretty much a novice at chess.


I always watch on ICC. The official stream would probably best for you since it also has video.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
November 10 2013 09:45 GMT
#372
Carlsen is thinking for the first time in this game, looks like he is out of his preparation
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
November 10 2013 09:46 GMT
#373
On November 10 2013 18:43 Zvoboo wrote:
What stream do you guys recommend? Considering I'm pretty much a novice at chess.


Jerry's stream
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
November 10 2013 09:48 GMT
#374
why Bb4??? I just don't get it... it just locks in the pressure on the King side (f7) where's the benefit?
Zvoboo
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany160 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 09:56:29
November 10 2013 09:49 GMT
#375
On November 10 2013 18:45 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 18:43 Zvoboo wrote:
What stream do you guys recommend? Considering I'm pretty much a novice at chess.


I always watch on ICC. The official stream would probably best for you since it also has video.


Cheers, will stay on the normal stream then edit: tuning on the Jerry stream and I must say I'm preferring that one over the normal one, thx mihajovics for the link.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 10 2013 09:52 GMT
#376
On November 10 2013 18:46 mihajovics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 18:43 Zvoboo wrote:
What stream do you guys recommend? Considering I'm pretty much a novice at chess.


Jerry's stream

Second this.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 10 2013 09:52 GMT
#377
On November 10 2013 18:48 mihajovics wrote:
why Bb4??? I just don't get it... it just locks in the pressure on the King side (f7) where's the benefit?


hm? the bishop goes back to e7 immediately, playing bb4+ simply (more or less) forces c3 which is a positional concession.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 09:59:35
November 10 2013 09:56 GMT
#378
On November 10 2013 18:52 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 18:48 mihajovics wrote:
why Bb4??? I just don't get it... it just locks in the pressure on the King side (f7) where's the benefit?


hm? the bishop goes back to e7 immediately, playing bb4+ simply (more or less) forces c3 which is a positional concession.


exactly... but it seems to just strengthen white's center, effectively losing a tempo (because white wants to play c3 anyway)... doesn't it?
what does black win with it?
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 10:00:58
November 10 2013 09:59 GMT
#379
On November 10 2013 18:56 mihajovics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 18:52 Orome wrote:
On November 10 2013 18:48 mihajovics wrote:
why Bb4??? I just don't get it... it just locks in the pressure on the King side (f7) where's the benefit?


hm? the bishop goes back to e7 immediately, playing bb4+ simply (more or less) forces c3 which is a positional concession.


exactly... but it seems to just strengthen white's center, effectively losing a tempo... doesn't it?
what does black win with it?


It fixes another white pawn on a dark square which constricts white's dark square bishop. Since white is committed to castling queenside it somewhat weakens his king, which might become relevant later.

edit: nvm I found a much better explanation: inafewminutes kibitzes: vishy has a bad bishy
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 10:08:52
November 10 2013 10:06 GMT
#380
so far we cant say who is ahead? can we? (total newbie here)
edit. sick micro from carlsen
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
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