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tuxkamen
Profile Joined February 2011
United States10 Posts
November 10 2013 10:36 GMT
#401
Well, these new announcers certainly have the highest salary per minute casting I've seen in a long time.
Oleo
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands283 Posts
November 10 2013 10:36 GMT
#402
So can we whine about Anand opening prep now?
Managing Siegetanks is like raising a superhero - Artosis.
Malli
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany138 Posts
November 10 2013 10:36 GMT
#403
those poor commentators, came in just to witness the repetition :D
gg no re
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
November 10 2013 10:38 GMT
#404
On November 10 2013 19:36 Oleo wrote:
So can we whine about Anand opening prep now?

but it seems like anand is the one who initiated the draw, especially with the trading of queens, kinda looked like its what he was going for
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 10 2013 10:38 GMT
#405
Aww man Anand is a whimp. =(
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graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
November 10 2013 10:38 GMT
#406
This is like swarmhost broodlord mirror match T_T
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11062 Posts
November 10 2013 10:38 GMT
#407
see thread on TL, think "oh, they've only been playing an hour, let's watch the middlegame"

draw

lol chess
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75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
November 10 2013 10:40 GMT
#408
On November 10 2013 19:33 Hyperionnn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 19:31 75 wrote:
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can anyone explain what the number 0.09 means?


The engine estimates a 0.09 pawn advantage for white, which means nothing at all

thanks.
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mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
November 10 2013 10:43 GMT
#409
hm... well that sizzled down quickly...
Aelfric
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Turkey1496 Posts
November 10 2013 10:45 GMT
#410
Guys relax, after the queen exchange even if they played it out it would end in a draw. They just saved you time. I mean they are not the kind of players that would make huge mistake or blunders after locked up king sides.
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hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 10:48:41
November 10 2013 10:48 GMT
#411
On November 10 2013 19:35 wingpawn wrote:
Yeah, Anand had optimistic prospects as long as the Queens were on.


What was he supposed to do though? If not Qd5 he has to play Qg4, Kh8, Kb1, b4 and now the queen on g4 is blocking his own pawn.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18658 Posts
November 10 2013 10:49 GMT
#412
On November 10 2013 19:38 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 19:36 Oleo wrote:
So can we whine about Anand opening prep now?

but it seems like anand is the one who initiated the draw, especially with the trading of queens, kinda looked like its what he was going for


yeah but going for a draw as white is bad prep, no? :p
mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 10:54:09
November 10 2013 10:50 GMT
#413
On November 10 2013 19:45 Aelfric wrote:
Guys relax, after the queen exchange even if they played it out it would end in a draw. They just saved you time. I mean they are not the kind of players that would make huge mistake or blunders after locked up king sides.


Sure, but why go for the exchanges as white before it got even? It felt like white had a promising initiative. Anyone has some engine evals before the exchanges? Wonder what the players will say at the press conference

EDIT: I mean 15. Ne4
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
November 10 2013 10:51 GMT
#414
Aren't draws in the first few games normal for a match like this? To feel the other player out?
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 10:56:46
November 10 2013 10:54 GMT
#415
On November 10 2013 19:49 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 19:38 Shock710 wrote:
On November 10 2013 19:36 Oleo wrote:
So can we whine about Anand opening prep now?

but it seems like anand is the one who initiated the draw, especially with the trading of queens, kinda looked like its what he was going for


yeah but going for a draw as white is bad prep, no? :p

yeah, (ofc im not 100% sure cause im not anand) but er i remember the commentators saying it might be anands gameplan to draw, because hes defending champion (and overall he just needs a draw)
So far both draws have been more or less anand's choice (that he went for the draw, rather then being put into the position like carlson was in both games)
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
nFo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada56 Posts
November 10 2013 11:00 GMT
#416
On November 10 2013 19:38 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 19:36 Oleo wrote:
So can we whine about Anand opening prep now?

but it seems like anand is the one who initiated the draw, especially with the trading of queens, kinda looked like its what he was going for


Anand said in the conference that he avoided the sharper lines because Carlsen was probably much more aware of the variations than him.

So you could say that his preparation was lacking.
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mihajovics
Profile Joined April 2011
179 Posts
November 10 2013 11:12 GMT
#417
On November 10 2013 20:00 nFo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2013 19:38 Shock710 wrote:
On November 10 2013 19:36 Oleo wrote:
So can we whine about Anand opening prep now?

but it seems like anand is the one who initiated the draw, especially with the trading of queens, kinda looked like its what he was going for


Anand said in the conference that he avoided the sharper lines because Carlsen was probably much more aware of the variations than him.

So you could say that his preparation was lacking.


well, okay... he still had like 90 mins on his clock to "prepare" now
It's interesting, because Anand seems to steer into sharp positions, yet doesn't bite at the end. Kind of counter intuitive, but he seems content with it, very interesting strategy.

Carlsen definitely did a better job than yesterday.
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
November 10 2013 11:25 GMT
#418
On November 10 2013 19:51 Kishin2 wrote:
Aren't draws in the first few games normal for a match like this? To feel the other player out?


Ya but at the highest lvl of chess it pretty common to draw in general. Extremely common actually lol, I think this going to probably go to tie breaker -_-....reminds me of why I quit trying to play chess competitively
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-10 11:26:40
November 10 2013 11:25 GMT
#419
I think the post-match analysis by Anand was as follows:
- anand was out of preparation
- he seemed to think that carlsen was very confident in the position
- he thought the position was very sharp just before trading the knights & queens
- he was trying to recall the lines but he didn't see anything concrete
- he decided to be cautious and not pursue sharp lines
- he was still settling in and wanted to get comfortable with both white & black
- he thinks that next games will be more interesting

Carlsen said something funny: when asked what he was going to do on his day of rest he replied that he would do something relaxing after two tough days.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12468 Posts
November 10 2013 11:37 GMT
#420
On November 10 2013 19:38 graNite wrote:
This is like swarmhost broodlord mirror match T_T


Having this thread in TL is a great thing. Maybe more people will understand why I was always so damn annoyed when Artosis went all like 'TvT is just like chess!'
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