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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-24 22:00:43
November 24 2016 21:59 GMT
#1601
Peter and Jan explained the subtlety. It was dead drawn but there was a counter intuitive move which required you to see that you needed to give up a tempo after gaining a tempo to force the draw (realising that the queen can renew threats by oscillating between f6 and f7). Both players missed it since Magnus gave him a second opportunity to make the draw after initially rejecting it.
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-25 00:47:06
November 25 2016 00:45 GMT
#1602
This was a beautiful attack. Karjakin's inaccuracies to make it possible were really subtle, until Rhh7.
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2848 Posts
November 25 2016 01:57 GMT
#1603
astonishing how gracefully Karjakin takes a loss. then emerges Carlsen, with the biggest grin on his face, pretty bad taste considering how he floundered about after his own loss. points for the russian in my book!
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 25 2016 02:02 GMT
#1604
On November 25 2016 06:59 Plexa wrote:
Peter and Jan explained the subtlety. It was dead drawn but there was a counter intuitive move which required you to see that you needed to give up a tempo after gaining a tempo to force the draw (realising that the queen can renew threats by oscillating between f6 and f7). Both players missed it since Magnus gave him a second opportunity to make the draw after initially rejecting it.
Very strange idea, super easy to miss.
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
November 25 2016 02:07 GMT
#1605
On November 25 2016 10:57 Warfie wrote:
astonishing how gracefully Karjakin takes a loss. then emerges Carlsen, with the biggest grin on his face, pretty bad taste considering how he floundered about after his own loss. points for the russian in my book!

The greatest champions are always sore losers.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18726 Posts
November 25 2016 06:32 GMT
#1606
Sergej was so shocked when he saw that he missed a clear draw twice in the press conference... :/
Arevall
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1133 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-25 08:14:01
November 25 2016 08:10 GMT
#1607
On November 25 2016 10:57 Warfie wrote:
astonishing how gracefully Karjakin takes a loss. then emerges Carlsen, with the biggest grin on his face, pretty bad taste considering how he floundered about after his own loss. points for the russian in my book!


First - I have to declare my clear Carlsen bias here. I'm a Carlsen fan even if I like Karjakin too. Also Karjakin does handle losing with much more grace than Carlsen. Carlsen is a sore loser.

However, it is unfair to characterize Carlsen as a bad winner. While he was very happy during the interviews and came into the press conference grinning he quickly subdued himself and was very calm and showed respect during the press conference.

I say this because, in my view, being a sore loser is okay (withing certain limits of course) while being a bad winner is bad sportmanship.


Edit: As if press conferences weren't hard enough after the game you get computer analysis thrown into your face. Nice.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
November 26 2016 22:25 GMT
#1608
drawn again!!! 5.5-5.5 going into game 12
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Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
November 26 2016 22:26 GMT
#1609
Well, that was probably the most boring game of the match so far. Hopefully 12 will be more interesting.
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calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 26 2016 22:53 GMT
#1610
Today in my tournament game I managed to get this position as black.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

In my infinite wisdom I played 29... Qa1?? in time trouble thinking I win a piece and would play Kxg7 if Nf6+ or Ne7+. I missed, of course, + Show Spoiler +
Bxh6 1-0. Realizing I royally fucked up I playe Kh7 and got ready to resign. Then he took my queen.
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
November 26 2016 23:02 GMT
#1611
The ol' counter-blunder. What a classic.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
November 26 2016 23:59 GMT
#1612
Damn, I was sure it was a draw, and turned off the stream :O
*sigh*
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3007 Posts
November 27 2016 01:39 GMT
#1613
On November 27 2016 07:53 calgar wrote:
Today in my tournament game I managed to get this position as black.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

In my infinite wisdom I played 29... Qa1?? in time trouble thinking I win a piece and would play Kxg7 if Nf6+ or Ne7+. I missed, of course, + Show Spoiler +
Bxh6 1-0. Realizing I royally fucked up I playe Kh7 and got ready to resign. Then he took my queen.

haha, so you mated him?
I would have liked to see the facial expression of both you and your opponent as you played Nf3+
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 27 2016 03:41 GMT
#1614
On November 27 2016 10:39 don_kyuhote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2016 07:53 calgar wrote:
Today in my tournament game I managed to get this position as black.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

In my infinite wisdom I played 29... Qa1?? in time trouble thinking I win a piece and would play Kxg7 if Nf6+ or Ne7+. I missed, of course, + Show Spoiler +
Bxh6 1-0. Realizing I royally fucked up I playe Kh7 and got ready to resign. Then he took my queen.

haha, so you mated him?
I would have liked to see the facial expression of both you and your opponent as you played Nf3+
I knew I had won when he touched his queen but I kept a poker face. He resigned after the initial disappointment of Nf3+. Talk about a game you don't deserve to win though
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 28 2016 18:46 GMT
#1615
Who's excited for the final day? I bet we see Magnus opt in to the Berlin and grind out a win.
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 28 2016 18:55 GMT
#1616
On November 29 2016 03:46 Plexa wrote:
Who's excited for the final day? I bet we see Magnus opt in to the Berlin and grind out a win.

I am! Only 48 more hours!

Well I wont take any chances and watch it today as well. Too bad I should get up early tomorrow, I might be one of the few who wouldnt mind a quick and boring draw.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 28 2016 19:00 GMT
#1617
A rapid deciding day would be quite interesting, agreed. But somehow I'd prefer the score to be settled today.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 28 2016 19:21 GMT
#1618
Looks like they both want a draw as fast as possible, for my uneducated eye.
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10540 Posts
November 28 2016 19:37 GMT
#1619
holy so fucking boring. Magnus kick his ass in rapid.
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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 28 2016 19:41 GMT
#1620
Why you all want it to end in rapid? I want the full 15 games on Wednesday. Including several wins, including black wins in games 13+14
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