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bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
November 30 2016 12:24 GMT
#1641
On November 30 2016 21:05 Fighter wrote:
There's not a free stream for this, is there? I know I'm a bit late to the party but I just moved into a better time zone where I'm awake during the games ha.


Chess24.com is where I've been watching. Magnus should theoretically dominate in rapid/blitz, but then I expected him to dominate in classical too. Karjakin's defence frustrated him into mistakes.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
November 30 2016 13:15 GMT
#1642
Doesn't have the players, but I've been watching on Twitch at ChessNetworks channel.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
November 30 2016 13:50 GMT
#1643
ChessNetwork is great for me, calm voice, telling me stuff I understand as someone whos knowledge of chess is limited to unterstanding all rules.

I want to see some Armaggedon.
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Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8074 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 15:00:39
November 30 2016 14:58 GMT
#1644
On November 30 2016 21:11 sharkie wrote:
What I can't believe is how so many people are surprised by Magnus' actions in the last game. He already was on the brink of losing the whole match because he tried to go for something once. I would have done the same thing in his position. He knows he is the better rapid player.

Trying a bit without pushing too hard really doesn't cost anything with white. Magnus is much superior in classical play and the white pieces are a big advantage, why kill the game immediately.

In any case there is a problem with the format if players are encouraged not to take any risks at all, go for draws and wait the playoff. Like in Anand Gelfand, it ends up being a rapid contest. And there is already a rapid wch.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2045 Posts
November 30 2016 15:32 GMT
#1645
On November 30 2016 23:58 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 21:11 sharkie wrote:
What I can't believe is how so many people are surprised by Magnus' actions in the last game. He already was on the brink of losing the whole match because he tried to go for something once. I would have done the same thing in his position. He knows he is the better rapid player.

Trying a bit without pushing too hard really doesn't cost anything with white. Magnus is much superior in classical play and the white pieces are a big advantage, why kill the game immediately.

Pretty strong contrast to some of the Anand games in the two previous WC series. Magnus was willing to grind seemingly drawish positions for hours on those.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 30 2016 15:38 GMT
#1646
On November 30 2016 23:58 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2016 21:11 sharkie wrote:
What I can't believe is how so many people are surprised by Magnus' actions in the last game. He already was on the brink of losing the whole match because he tried to go for something once. I would have done the same thing in his position. He knows he is the better rapid player.

Trying a bit without pushing too hard really doesn't cost anything with white. Magnus is much superior in classical play and the white pieces are a big advantage, why kill the game immediately.

In any case there is a problem with the format if players are encouraged not to take any risks at all, go for draws and wait the playoff. Like in Anand Gelfand, it ends up being a rapid contest. And there is already a rapid wch.


They were somehow encouraged to win before tiebreakers, but seems like 50k mean nothing to Magnus.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
November 30 2016 17:42 GMT
#1647
I'm quite hyped for today, might be a long night. Any information about the duration of pauses between games? I'm also curious how the commentatros will deal with the much faster pace of the games.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 30 2016 17:54 GMT
#1648
On December 01 2016 02:42 Mafe wrote:
I'm quite hyped for today, might be a long night. Any information about the duration of pauses between games? I'm also curious how the commentatros will deal with the much faster pace of the games.


3.7.4 There shall be a pause of 10 minutes between all tie-break games, unless the Chief Arbiter decides otherwise.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
November 30 2016 18:54 GMT
#1649
I think the commentating will be fine for the Rapid games, but if it goes to blitz then it could get a bit hairy.
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
November 30 2016 18:57 GMT
#1650
Ah 10 minute break in between the rapid games
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 30 2016 18:58 GMT
#1651
On December 01 2016 03:54 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I think the commentating will be fine for the Rapid games, but if it goes to blitz then it could get a bit hairy.


Yeah. The free streams especially will have problems due to the moves lagging behind, coming in batches or being transmitted incorrectly.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 30 2016 18:59 GMT
#1652
It's time guys, 1 minute until the first rapid game begins.

25 minutes for rapid, huh... I thought 15 was standard?
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
November 30 2016 19:01 GMT
#1653
I might be biased towards Carlsen, but I am impressed it is going to the tiebreaker. lets not hope for an armageddon game.
washed
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
November 30 2016 19:21 GMT
#1654
SK already 7 minutes behind on time
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ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 30 2016 19:21 GMT
#1655
Carlsen up eight minutes on the clock at move 17. It seems like it's been this way every game, but in rapid it matters a lot more.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 30 2016 19:23 GMT
#1656
http://analysis.sesse.net/ in case there's anyone new in the thread wanting a super computer evaluation :3
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sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18635 Posts
November 30 2016 19:35 GMT
#1657
Looks like the first draw.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
November 30 2016 19:56 GMT
#1658
I'm rarely watching Chess. So many draws.. :/
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
November 30 2016 19:58 GMT
#1659
On December 01 2016 04:56 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm rarely watching Chess. So many draws.. :/


They should really change the rules to make stalemates 0.75-0.25, would help so much.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 30 2016 20:00 GMT
#1660
On December 01 2016 04:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 04:56 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm rarely watching Chess. So many draws.. :/


They should really change the rules to make stalemates 0.75-0.25, would help so much.


The problem is that this encourages black to turtle even more.
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