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TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
November 28 2016 19:44 GMT
#1621
That was a fast draw.
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Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 28 2016 19:47 GMT
#1622
Was expecting Magnus to go for more considering he seemed really eager to keep the game going with black two days ago. Rapid/blitz to decide a WC is a little eh, but ah well.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 28 2016 19:48 GMT
#1623
Magnus really likes his chances in rapid it seems. I hope he loses the first game so that we get to see actual chess.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 28 2016 19:55 GMT
#1624
Well... this also changes their prizemoney. They basically guaranteed themselves another 50k each with this draw today, but in return there is 50k less to win for whoever gets the title.

+ Show Spoiler +
well... 45k for Magnus would be more correct, as he still has to pay his 10% penalty
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
November 28 2016 19:58 GMT
#1625
On November 29 2016 04:55 mahrgell wrote:
Well... this also changes their prizemoney. They basically guaranteed themselves another 50k each with this draw today, but in return there is 50k less to win for whoever gets the title.

+ Show Spoiler +
well... 45k for Magnus would be more correct, as he still has to pay his 10% penalty


They appealed the fine and got it reduced to 5%.
Lachrymose
Profile Joined February 2008
Australia1928 Posts
November 28 2016 19:59 GMT
#1626
They halved his fine, it's only 5% now.
~
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
November 28 2016 20:07 GMT
#1627
so i saw this rule that describes the last of the decider matches
If still level they play an Armageddon game, where White has 5 minutes to Black's 4, but a draw will make the black player World Champion.
and i wonder how would they decide who plays white?.
is white reserved to Magnus since he is the current champion?.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-28 20:12:30
November 28 2016 20:09 GMT
#1628
On November 29 2016 05:07 xM(Z wrote:
so i saw this rule that describes the last of the decider matches
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If still level they play an Armageddon game, where White has 5 minutes to Black's 4, but a draw will make the black player World Champion.
and i wonder how would they decide who plays white?.
is white reserved to Magnus since he is the current champion?.


Drawn at random.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
November 28 2016 20:22 GMT
#1629
On November 29 2016 04:47 Orome wrote:
Was expecting Magnus to go for more considering he seemed really eager to keep the game going with black two days ago. Rapid/blitz to decide a WC is a little eh, but ah well.


No way he will risk again after his self inflicted loss a week ago
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
November 28 2016 20:36 GMT
#1630
Not to that extent obviously, but there are plans and ambitions to be had in between that and going for a quick draw from move 1 with white.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
November 28 2016 20:50 GMT
#1631
I still can't believe the game finished in little over 34 minutes.
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calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-29 13:20:16
November 29 2016 03:10 GMT
#1632
RIP Mark Taimanov
http://en.chessbase.com/post/in-memoriam-mark-taimanov_en

Rapid games should be much more decisive.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12175 Posts
November 30 2016 09:15 GMT
#1633
So the games start in roughly 9h and 45 min?
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
November 30 2016 09:47 GMT
#1634
How much break time do the players get in between games?
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 11:30:17
November 30 2016 11:29 GMT
#1635
On November 29 2016 05:50 TanGeng wrote:
I still can't believe the game finished in little over 34 minutes.

Karjakin can be happy, but I don't really follow Magnus' rational behind that non-game. Why would you not even give yourself a chance with the white pieces?

Nigel Short said that if it were a restaurant dish, he would send it back to the chef. I guess the stakes are high enough for the players not to care, but it feels a bit lame to play a wch game like that.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Bacillus
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland2113 Posts
November 30 2016 11:34 GMT
#1636
Is it possible that Carlsen switched completely to rapid game preparation right after game 11 and has something extra compared to Karjakin now?
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8201 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-30 12:00:06
November 30 2016 11:53 GMT
#1637
On November 30 2016 20:34 Bacillus wrote:
Is it possible that Carlsen switched completely to rapid game preparation right after game 11 and has something extra compared to Karjakin now?

I don't think one extra day of preparation makes a big difference in rapid. Also Karjakin relies more on preparation than Carlsen who is known for liking non theoretical stuff. We are not at the good old day when you could really benefit from finding that one novelty at move 29 of the Najdorf..

My only explanation is that Carlsen had a choice between drawing with the open Berlin or something similar, or going for the d3 that he has clearly studied and risk to run into Karjakin's fresh prep (since it has already played it in this match) in an opening that is roughly equal.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
November 30 2016 12:01 GMT
#1638
When do they start? 4pm EST?
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
November 30 2016 12:05 GMT
#1639
There's not a free stream for this, is there? I know I'm a bit late to the party but I just moved into a better time zone where I'm awake during the games ha.
For Aiur???
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18761 Posts
November 30 2016 12:11 GMT
#1640
What I can't believe is how so many people are surprised by Magnus' actions in the last game. He already was on the brink of losing the whole match because he tried to go for something once. I would have done the same thing in his position. He knows he is the better rapid player.
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