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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4173 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-24 20:32:26
April 24 2023 20:31 GMT
#2461
On April 24 2023 19:55 0x64 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2023 14:56 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
This prep leak drama is one of the silliest things i've ever heard.. seriously, wtf were they thinking?!

Unreal..


mhmm in hindsight, sure

Information security is not their speciality, thinking it's all anonymous.

It's the kind of mistake that happens only once and you look like a fool.


hosting WCC preparation games on a public server is peak "dun goofed" if you ask me..

anyway, I think that if Ding doesn't strike in game 12, Nepo will win this one. I think Ding has to seek for his chance in the next game no matter what.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3911 Posts
April 26 2023 13:21 GMT
#2462
Very complicated and exciting game been played today, and yet again the match is all open. Liren is showing great resilience. One of the most back and forth WCC of all time.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
760 Posts
April 26 2023 15:10 GMT
#2463
As I understood it, Ding Liren himself said this at press conference: "I agree with GM Fabiano Caruana that the quality of the games is very low".
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18386 Posts
April 26 2023 15:44 GMT
#2464
Sports at the highest level is all about handling pressure. Both just cant
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9607 Posts
April 26 2023 16:56 GMT
#2465
On April 27 2023 00:44 sharkie wrote:
Sports at the highest level is all about handling pressure. Both just cant

Well you were just complaining that it was going to boring for the rest of the match, now you're complaining that isn't.
I'm starting to think you should only ever watch Magnus play if that's what you want.
RIP Meatloaf <3
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18386 Posts
April 26 2023 16:58 GMT
#2466
On April 27 2023 01:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2023 00:44 sharkie wrote:
Sports at the highest level is all about handling pressure. Both just cant

Well you were just complaining that it was going to boring for the rest of the match, now you're complaining that isn't.
I'm starting to think you should only ever watch Magnus play if that's what you want.


No, I am not complaining about it. Its just stating facts. Its much better to draw the match than to see Ian just draw it to the end
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9607 Posts
April 26 2023 17:05 GMT
#2467
On April 27 2023 01:58 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2023 01:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 27 2023 00:44 sharkie wrote:
Sports at the highest level is all about handling pressure. Both just cant

Well you were just complaining that it was going to boring for the rest of the match, now you're complaining that isn't.
I'm starting to think you should only ever watch Magnus play if that's what you want.


No, I am not complaining about it. Its just stating facts. Its much better to draw the match than to see Ian just draw it to the end

Honestly your 'sport at the highest level' comment irks me.
This is the highest level. Its like having Barcelona and Man City playing a Champions League final and saying its going to be rubbish because Real Madrid aren't playing.
These guys are the second and third best chess players in the world.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21633 Posts
April 26 2023 17:36 GMT
#2468
On April 27 2023 02:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2023 01:58 sharkie wrote:
On April 27 2023 01:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 27 2023 00:44 sharkie wrote:
Sports at the highest level is all about handling pressure. Both just cant

Well you were just complaining that it was going to boring for the rest of the match, now you're complaining that isn't.
I'm starting to think you should only ever watch Magnus play if that's what you want.


No, I am not complaining about it. Its just stating facts. Its much better to draw the match than to see Ian just draw it to the end

Honestly your 'sport at the highest level' comment irks me.
This is the highest level. Its like having Barcelona and Man City playing a Champions League final and saying its going to be rubbish because Real Madrid aren't playing.
These guys are the second and third best chess players in the world.
I think your misunderstanding his comment. He is saying this is the highest level and its all about handling the pressure (since both clearly have the skill). And both are, this tournament, not doing great at that.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ZeroByte13
Profile Joined March 2022
760 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-04-26 18:17:02
April 26 2023 18:08 GMT
#2469
On April 27 2023 02:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
This is the highest level. Its like having Barcelona and Man City playing a Champions League final and saying its going to be rubbish because Real Madrid aren't playing.
If their game would have an abnormal (for top clubs) amount of errors, bad passes, etc, and it was painfully obvious they'd have no chance against Real who (in this metaphoric example) won previous 10 UCLs in a row but this time just refused to play because it's boring for them - yes, people would say that this final's quality is not high at all.

It's understandable as both of them have the best chance of their life to become a WC - I'm not sure Nepo really believed he can win in his last WC series.
A winner of a scrappy final full of mistakes is still a champion and should be rightfully proud of it.
You can only win against the opponent in front of you, it's not their fault Magnus got bored, they should not care about this.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4545 Posts
April 26 2023 18:36 GMT
#2470
On April 27 2023 02:36 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2023 02:05 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 27 2023 01:58 sharkie wrote:
On April 27 2023 01:56 Jockmcplop wrote:
On April 27 2023 00:44 sharkie wrote:
Sports at the highest level is all about handling pressure. Both just cant

Well you were just complaining that it was going to boring for the rest of the match, now you're complaining that isn't.
I'm starting to think you should only ever watch Magnus play if that's what you want.


No, I am not complaining about it. Its just stating facts. Its much better to draw the match than to see Ian just draw it to the end

Honestly your 'sport at the highest level' comment irks me.
This is the highest level. Its like having Barcelona and Man City playing a Champions League final and saying its going to be rubbish because Real Madrid aren't playing.
These guys are the second and third best chess players in the world.
I think your misunderstanding his comment. He is saying this is the highest level and its all about handling the pressure (since both clearly have the skill). And both are, this tournament, not doing great at that.


Yeah they have extra pressure fromm being both challengers with goose chances to win. But chess is cruel. Anyone who plays at tournaments knows this feeling of throwing out a game. In 2021 saved a pawn final where I was -53 against a 1990, earlier in that game I was +8 and one move away from victory
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
April 26 2023 19:07 GMT
#2471
Unbelievable that people are whining about the blunders. This is exciting and awesome. Engines are what is ruining chess cause everyone is like "OMGLOL THEY PLAY SO BAD" cause they're just watching along with an engine and even the commentary teams have the eval bars, not factoring in the immense intense pressure and that they don't play with eval bars let alone the engine showing the best lines. And yes, of course magnus would destroy both Ding and Nepo, but he chose not to so here we are with an actual exciting match! Fabi vs Magnus was really good but everyone whined about the draws. People are just never going to be happy
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3911 Posts
April 26 2023 20:10 GMT
#2472
I really don't care about the blunders. I know these players are doing their best and they're playing fighting chess. I'm highly entertained and curious to see it all the way to the end. I've rarely seen a chess match that is of greater quality and greater intensity.
There will always be people who disagree, and I don't care about that whatsoever. This match will go down in history and the games will be studied by many players.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
0x64
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Finland4545 Posts
April 26 2023 21:17 GMT
#2473
On April 27 2023 04:07 fishjie wrote:
Unbelievable that people are whining about the blunders. This is exciting and awesome. Engines are what is ruining chess cause everyone is like "OMGLOL THEY PLAY SO BAD" cause they're just watching along with an engine and even the commentary teams have the eval bars, not factoring in the immense intense pressure and that they don't play with eval bars let alone the engine showing the best lines. And yes, of course magnus would destroy both Ding and Nepo, but he chose not to so here we are with an actual exciting match! Fabi vs Magnus was really good but everyone whined about the draws. People are just never going to be happy


Yeah, I love Fabiano, because he is really avoiding looking at the eval, of course sometimes lesser commentators asked him "why do you think the eval goes this way" because they want to sound a bit competent.

It's incredible to have someone of Caruana's level commenting and in some position after two moves it's so complicated that he might go "After this, I go on intuition, I don't see anything specific..."

Those commentators that goes "oh we had that lines" while the eval bar is under their eyes are quite useless because they forgot how tricky is a move.

Like compare how Caruana explains Bishop C2 from Ding compared to some other you see around the net...

Caruana gives all the potential ideas of that move, others spend time explaining why it is a mistake.
Dump of assembler code from 0xffffffec to 0x64: End of assembler dump.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4173 Posts
April 27 2023 03:04 GMT
#2474
And he did it! hah.. What a wild, wild match seriously I'm having the most fun watching it since Anand vs Carlsen in 2013

A wide open situation.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4173 Posts
April 27 2023 03:07 GMT
#2475
On April 27 2023 05:10 Magic Powers wrote:
I really don't care about the blunders. I know these players are doing their best and they're playing fighting chess. I'm highly entertained and curious to see it all the way to the end. I've rarely seen a chess match that is of greater quality and greater intensity.
There will always be people who disagree, and I don't care about that whatsoever. This match will go down in history and the games will be studied by many players.

I wholeheartedly agree.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
April 27 2023 13:47 GMT
#2476
Ian said in one of the press conferences that this match is amazing for spectators and horrible for the players. sounds about right to me lol
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3911 Posts
April 27 2023 17:09 GMT
#2477
On April 27 2023 22:47 PassiveAce wrote:
Ian said in one of the press conferences that this match is amazing for spectators and horrible for the players. sounds about right to me lol


Sure does. Nepo was extremely emotionally devastated after his loss, arguing with himself for several minutes during the game. Here's the footage:

If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4173 Posts
April 29 2023 15:58 GMT
#2478
So it will all go down to tie-breaks after all.. a bit disappointing, but the classic portion was a truly exciting rollercoaster nonetheless!

17th World Chess Champion will be crowned tomorrow.
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3911 Posts
April 29 2023 17:06 GMT
#2479
I think my boy Liren is in big trouble. Nepo is fast and effective and he should have the edge in the rapid section.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
LennX
Profile Joined October 2010
4546 Posts
April 30 2023 13:15 GMT
#2480
Ding wins!!!!!

WOW!
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