EPTOn September 17 2025 20:49 Razyda wrote:
Dude FFS:
You do realise you are agreeing with me? But yeah thats not a discussion for US Pol.
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On September 17 2025 20:34 MJG wrote:
Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have devolved parliaments that handle many domestic decisions independently, so the idea that England runs the UK is categorically false.
You're a clown lmao.
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I'll stop derailing the US Politics thread now lol.
On September 17 2025 20:06 Razyda wrote:
It is 57 out of 650. I am not even sure what you arguing. Fact is England runs UK. You may type till your fingers start bleeding, but it wont change this. You may explain why, you may rationalise it, but it wont change the fact itself.
On September 17 2025 19:29 MJG wrote:
???
Westminster has dozens of Scottish MPs and Lords.
It's not an English parliament.
Please stop talking about the UK lmao.
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And even if it was an English parliament, Scotland had an independence referendum were they voted to remain within the UK. That was an agreement that foreign policy decisions would be taken by Westminster.
On September 17 2025 19:17 Razyda wrote:
Thank you.
On September 17 2025 18:28 MJG wrote:
dictated by Westminster.
dictated by Westminster.
Thank you.
???
Westminster has dozens of Scottish MPs and Lords.
It's not an English parliament.
Please stop talking about the UK lmao.
EDIT:
And even if it was an English parliament, Scotland had an independence referendum were they voted to remain within the UK. That was an agreement that foreign policy decisions would be taken by Westminster.
It is 57 out of 650. I am not even sure what you arguing. Fact is England runs UK. You may type till your fingers start bleeding, but it wont change this. You may explain why, you may rationalise it, but it wont change the fact itself.
Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have devolved parliaments that handle many domestic decisions independently, so the idea that England runs the UK is categorically false.
You're a clown lmao.
EDIT:
I'll stop derailing the US Politics thread now lol.
Dude FFS:
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On September 17 2025 20:34 MJG wrote:
Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have devolved parliaments that handle many domestic decisions independently, so the idea that England runs the UK is categorically false.
You're a clown lmao.
EDIT:
I'll stop derailing the US Politics thread now lol.
On September 17 2025 20:06 Razyda wrote:
It is 57 out of 650. I am not even sure what you arguing. Fact is England runs UK. You may type till your fingers start bleeding, but it wont change this. You may explain why, you may rationalise it, but it wont change the fact itself.
On September 17 2025 19:29 MJG wrote:
???
Westminster has dozens of Scottish MPs and Lords.
It's not an English parliament.
Please stop talking about the UK lmao.
EDIT:
And even if it was an English parliament, Scotland had an independence referendum were they voted to remain within the UK. That was an agreement that foreign policy decisions would be taken by Westminster.
On September 17 2025 19:17 Razyda wrote:
Thank you.
On September 17 2025 18:28 MJG wrote:
dictated by Westminster.
dictated by Westminster.
Thank you.
???
Westminster has dozens of Scottish MPs and Lords.
It's not an English parliament.
Please stop talking about the UK lmao.
EDIT:
And even if it was an English parliament, Scotland had an independence referendum were they voted to remain within the UK. That was an agreement that foreign policy decisions would be taken by Westminster.
It is 57 out of 650. I am not even sure what you arguing. Fact is England runs UK. You may type till your fingers start bleeding, but it wont change this. You may explain why, you may rationalise it, but it wont change the fact itself.
Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland have devolved parliaments that handle many domestic decisions independently, so the idea that England runs the UK is categorically false.
You're a clown lmao.
EDIT:
I'll stop derailing the US Politics thread now lol.
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On September 17 2025 19:29 MJG wrote:
???
Westminster has dozens of Scottish MPs and Lords.
It's not an English parliament.
Please stop talking about the UK lmao.
EDIT:
And even if it was an English parliament, Scotland had an independence referendum were they voted to remain within the UK. That was an agreement that foreign policy decisions would be taken by Westminster.
On September 17 2025 19:17 Razyda wrote:
Thank you.
On September 17 2025 18:28 MJG wrote:
dictated by Westminster.
dictated by Westminster.
Thank you.
???
Westminster has dozens of Scottish MPs and Lords.
It's not an English parliament.
Please stop talking about the UK lmao.
EDIT:
And even if it was an English parliament, Scotland had an independence referendum were they voted to remain within the UK. That was an agreement that foreign policy decisions would be taken by Westminster.
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On September 17 2025 18:28 MJG wrote:
Scotland voted to remain within the UK during the Scottish independence referendum. Remaining in the UK entailed foreign policy being dictated by Westminster. Brexit definitely falls within the realm of foreign policy.
You should've stopped posting about the UK after your Guy Fawkes' Night blunder.
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British culture is so resolutely incapable of adopting or coexisting with other cultures that our national dish is a curry...
On September 17 2025 18:16 Razyda wrote:
Re France: Yes there are differences between regions, yet this are variances within the same culture. Picardian may be Picardian but he is also still French. The way it works is that may maintain certain traditions, but certain values are non negotiable. That why Henry de Navarre could become king but... "Paris is well worth a Mass"
Re Britain: Really thats your example? So we have island with (for simplification) 3 kingdoms, which united. It just so happens that main legislative body is in Westminster and decides what other 2 can decide by themselves. During Brexit referendum Scotland voted to remain, how did that work out? Thats the subdue part. See English were vey good at this sort of thing, thats why they were empire. It is much cheaper to allow certain traditions to remain intact, and just draw the lines which you are not allowed to cross. Whats within this lines, over time, will define culture.
On September 17 2025 14:14 Acrofales wrote:
This looks like a post by someone who has never been to France. Or Britain, despite supposedly living there.
Despite the French monarchy's best efforts to unite French regions with a single language, centralise everything in Paris, and multiple religious genocides, there's still a significant difference between regions. The British government was never as zealous in its fervour to create homogeneity, and that's why the Welsh still speak Welsh, and the Scottish Scottish. Two different Gaelic languages that have nothing at all to do with English. The Scots wear the fact that they aren't English as a badge of pride. Even within England, the north and the south have large differences and a language such that if they each speak their own dialect they can barely understand each other. The linguistic difference between York and Portsmouth is probably larger than between any two US states.
On September 17 2025 10:33 Razyda wrote:
Of course they do. There is French culture, British culture, US culture. They are all different with different traditions, history even effing food. If you think different cultures can coexist within the same borders, then you are mistaken.
Ask native Americans, ask St Bartholomew/ du Plessis how did that work out in France, check what papist is, or what happened in Granada.
On September 17 2025 10:23 Vivax wrote:
No nation has a single culture except maybe China and other Asian nations.
Western culture doesn‘t even exist. It‘s too fractured for that.
Which is why you can have different experiences in Italy, the UK, France, US etc.
In terms of anthropology, when it has its own language, it‘s something of their own.
The point is for them to be able to coexist because it‘d be pretty boring if we only had one.
On September 17 2025 09:50 Razyda wrote:
See you dont have single culture any more (like western/US culture) you have liberal culture and conservative culture and 2 cultures cant coexist within the same borders. One have to take over.
On September 17 2025 05:53 GreenHorizons wrote:
When people think "Civil War", are they basically imagining the far-right going to war to keep the West Coast in the Union, rural vs urban wars around the country, North vs South, or what?
I don't know that enough of the US populace gives enough of a shit for an actual civil war.
I imagine more of a general "balkanization" with some conflicts internally (from oppressed groups) and between regions over resources and such.
When people think "Civil War", are they basically imagining the far-right going to war to keep the West Coast in the Union, rural vs urban wars around the country, North vs South, or what?
I don't know that enough of the US populace gives enough of a shit for an actual civil war.
I imagine more of a general "balkanization" with some conflicts internally (from oppressed groups) and between regions over resources and such.
See you dont have single culture any more (like western/US culture) you have liberal culture and conservative culture and 2 cultures cant coexist within the same borders. One have to take over.
No nation has a single culture except maybe China and other Asian nations.
Western culture doesn‘t even exist. It‘s too fractured for that.
Which is why you can have different experiences in Italy, the UK, France, US etc.
In terms of anthropology, when it has its own language, it‘s something of their own.
The point is for them to be able to coexist because it‘d be pretty boring if we only had one.
Of course they do. There is French culture, British culture, US culture. They are all different with different traditions, history even effing food. If you think different cultures can coexist within the same borders, then you are mistaken.
Ask native Americans, ask St Bartholomew/ du Plessis how did that work out in France, check what papist is, or what happened in Granada.
This looks like a post by someone who has never been to France. Or Britain, despite supposedly living there.
Despite the French monarchy's best efforts to unite French regions with a single language, centralise everything in Paris, and multiple religious genocides, there's still a significant difference between regions. The British government was never as zealous in its fervour to create homogeneity, and that's why the Welsh still speak Welsh, and the Scottish Scottish. Two different Gaelic languages that have nothing at all to do with English. The Scots wear the fact that they aren't English as a badge of pride. Even within England, the north and the south have large differences and a language such that if they each speak their own dialect they can barely understand each other. The linguistic difference between York and Portsmouth is probably larger than between any two US states.
Re France: Yes there are differences between regions, yet this are variances within the same culture. Picardian may be Picardian but he is also still French. The way it works is that may maintain certain traditions, but certain values are non negotiable. That why Henry de Navarre could become king but... "Paris is well worth a Mass"
Re Britain: Really thats your example? So we have island with (for simplification) 3 kingdoms, which united. It just so happens that main legislative body is in Westminster and decides what other 2 can decide by themselves. During Brexit referendum Scotland voted to remain, how did that work out? Thats the subdue part. See English were vey good at this sort of thing, thats why they were empire. It is much cheaper to allow certain traditions to remain intact, and just draw the lines which you are not allowed to cross. Whats within this lines, over time, will define culture.
Scotland voted to remain within the UK during the Scottish independence referendum. Remaining in the UK entailed foreign policy being dictated by Westminster. Brexit definitely falls within the realm of foreign policy.
You should've stopped posting about the UK after your Guy Fawkes' Night blunder.
EDIT:
British culture is so resolutely incapable of adopting or coexisting with other cultures that our national dish is a curry...
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On September 17 2025 18:16 Razyda wrote:
and just draw the lines which you are not allowed to cross.
and just draw the lines which you are not allowed to cross.
You do realise you are agreeing with me? But yeah thats not a discussion for US Pol.
I'm not agreeing with you at all.
You said that the English subjugate the Scottish.
If that was true then there wouldn't have been an Independence referendum, there wouldn't be a devolved parliament, Scotland wouldn't have a number of MPs proportional to its population, and so on and so forth.
The Scottish people voted to remain within the UK, which means they voted to continue collective decision making on foreign policy at Westminster. That isn't subjugation, that's cooperation.
Look to your own country's history and you'll see what true subjugation looks like.
