On May 23 2013 02:15 0x64 wrote: While we are on the subject... Prodigy made awesome use of sampling.
i would have never thought that song was made entirely from samples but man they did a great job with it ! very impressive
I can't see the video cause it's blocked at my work, but I'm guessing that's the video of a dude recreating Smack my Bitch up in Abelton?
That's an example of some awesome shit you can do with samples, how you can manipulate them in such a way that they become their own instrument. The video I posted was an example of some lame shit you can do with samples.
On May 21 2013 20:30 i.am.weasel wrote: i didnt like this album at all
After my first full listening, I can't say I like it either. I hope some of the artistry grows on me, but mostly it feels disconnected and bland. I enjoyed their golden era of production with Discovery, so it's hard for me to let go of that, while ignoring "Homework" and "RAM."
On June 13 2013 12:19 jcroisdale wrote: This is still amazing even two weeks later, each song feels like a first listen.
I only like "Horizon" and "Doin' it Right." Everything else feels like they are going too far beyond their older work and just struggling to identify with the masses.
On June 13 2013 12:19 jcroisdale wrote: This is still amazing even two weeks later, each song feels like a first listen.
I only like "Horizon" and "Doin' it Right." Everything else feels like they are going too far beyond their older work and just struggling to identify with the masses.
Look at each song individually, as an album its okay, but when you give each song a listen and judge it on its own. Well that is when they truly shine. Listen to the ones you like not the ones Daft Punk made.
On June 13 2013 12:19 jcroisdale wrote: This is still amazing even two weeks later, each song feels like a first listen.
I only like "Horizon" and "Doin' it Right." Everything else feels like they are going too far beyond their older work and just struggling to identify with the masses.
Look at each song individually, as an album its okay, but when you give each song a listen and judge it on its own. Well that is when they truly shine. Listen to the ones you like not the ones Daft Punk made.
I love the harmony of an album composed for the names of the tracks, the theme of the work, and the progression of each song as a whole listening experience.
Metal does this well, and that's a reason why metal fanatics can be so proud in the face of degradation and ridicule.
On June 13 2013 12:19 jcroisdale wrote: This is still amazing even two weeks later, each song feels like a first listen.
I only like "Horizon" and "Doin' it Right." Everything else feels like they are going too far beyond their older work and just struggling to identify with the masses.
Really?
Maybe you should reevaluate your position on musical appreciation.
I feel like this album brings something to the table everyone can enjoy. If you want to characterize this as "struggling to identify with the masses" I think you're missing the point. Consider the amount of money Daft Punk must have accumulated given their career. Do they really have any motivation to be grovelling at the ears of anyone? I think this album - like their idea of music in general - is supposed to bring people together. The message is that music is inclusive, not exclusive. I don't think it's wrong for musicians to want people to identify with their work. I don't know if you are a musician or not, but if your perspective is that your music should only be appreciated by a select group of elite or qualified individuals you probably won't get very many fans.
It's fine if you don't like some of the songs or even the whole album, but if your reason for disliking it is that they are trying to identify with people I don't think you quite understand the concept.
On June 13 2013 12:19 jcroisdale wrote: This is still amazing even two weeks later, each song feels like a first listen.
I only like "Horizon" and "Doin' it Right." Everything else feels like they are going too far beyond their older work and just struggling to identify with the masses.
Really?
Maybe you should reevaluate your position on musical appreciation.
I feel like this album brings something to the table everyone can enjoy. If you want to characterize this as "struggling to identify with the masses" I think you're missing the point. Consider the amount of money Daft Punk must have accumulated given their career. Do they really have any motivation to be grovelling at the ears of anyone? I think this album - like their idea of music in general - is supposed to bring people together. The message is that music is inclusive, not exclusive. I don't think it's wrong for musicians to want people to identify with their work. I don't know if you are a musician or not, but if your perspective is that your music should only be appreciated by a select group of elite or qualified individuals you probably won't get very many fans.
It's fine if you don't like some of the songs or even the whole album, but if your reason for disliking it is that they are trying to identify with people I don't think you quite understand the concept.
Daft Punk's "Discovery" honestly was a true random pick-up for me as a child. I was in the store, and I wanted to get anything. I came home with it and absolutely loved the discovery. This album isn't the same for me, it's pace is all disjointed, it has too many artistic voices included, and it's overall boring.
On June 13 2013 12:19 jcroisdale wrote: This is still amazing even two weeks later, each song feels like a first listen.
I only like "Horizon" and "Doin' it Right." Everything else feels like they are going too far beyond their older work and just struggling to identify with the masses.
Really?
Maybe you should reevaluate your position on musical appreciation.
I feel like this album brings something to the table everyone can enjoy. If you want to characterize this as "struggling to identify with the masses" I think you're missing the point. Consider the amount of money Daft Punk must have accumulated given their career. Do they really have any motivation to be grovelling at the ears of anyone? I think this album - like their idea of music in general - is supposed to bring people together. The message is that music is inclusive, not exclusive. I don't think it's wrong for musicians to want people to identify with their work. I don't know if you are a musician or not, but if your perspective is that your music should only be appreciated by a select group of elite or qualified individuals you probably won't get very many fans.
It's fine if you don't like some of the songs or even the whole album, but if your reason for disliking it is that they are trying to identify with people I don't think you quite understand the concept.
Daft Punk's "Discovery" honestly was a true random pick-up for me as a child. I was in the store, and I wanted to get anything. I came home with it and absolutely loved the discovery. This album isn't the same for me, it's pace is all disjointed, it has too many artistic voices included, and it's overall boring.
I agree with you Discovery was a great album and if questioned I would quickly place it in my top five favorite albums of all time to this day. My friend had a good point about this - if Daft Punk wanted to make another Discovery, or re re invent EDM again they probably would have. I think this album is very different for a reason. It's something new, while at the same time retaining and reverencing a multiplicitous menagerie of the past. I don't see how you could think it boring - but that is your opinion. If anything - I think the pandora of musical presence only adds to the tempo of the album. It did not seem at all disjointed to me. Remember, Daft Punk is drawing from their manifold experience for this work. They have done everything from scrupulously authentic House to Movie Soundtracks. I think their multifarious array of musical experience is what really makes the album here. Again - this is all opinion.
After listening to the full album i cant believe they made this stuff, it just doesnt suit their style. I was really hyped for the album after that 20 sec ad on SNL, but now i am just dissappointed.
Discovery sounded so good, because they sampled music from real disco bands. With this album they decided they were gonna try and recreate that style but record everything themselves and with studio musicians. Unfortunately, the final product is kind of bland and soulless (in my opinion), as it's hard to recreate the feeling of a real band with studio musicians who don't really play together.
So many tracks are ruined by something: track 12, doin' it right(great start), by the the awful singing. Track 13 by turning into noise halfway. Track 3 by way too much talk. Track 10 by pissing. And track 2, 4, 9 and 11 are just too slow and boring, don't stand out at all, especially compared to a lot of old funk. But I like tracks 5-8. So it's hard to make up my opinion about the whole album.
This album has a very 'pink floyd-ish' vibe imo (listen their 'animals' album to know what I mean).. Songs with chapters, lots of sound effects. I really like giorgio by moroder and contact. The drums are great.. I also like the fact that the general tune of a song stays kind of the same, but the support intstruments/sounds vary a lot.
On June 13 2013 12:19 jcroisdale wrote: This is still amazing even two weeks later, each song feels like a first listen.
I only like "Horizon" and "Doin' it Right." Everything else feels like they are going too far beyond their older work and just struggling to identify with the masses.
Look at each song individually, as an album its okay, but when you give each song a listen and judge it on its own. Well that is when they truly shine. Listen to the ones you like not the ones Daft Punk made.
I love the harmony of an album composed for the names of the tracks, the theme of the work, and the progression of each song as a whole listening experience.
Metal does this well, and that's a reason why metal fanatics can be so proud in the face of degradation and ridicule.
To be honest, I'm a big fan of metal and I find the lyrics to most metal songs utterly ridiculous (especially in death and black metal). It's a good thing you can't make out what they're "singing" about most of the time. My favourite bands are actually those who combine really good musicianship with good lyrics, like The Ocean, Amenra, Lamb of God, System of a Down, Dark Tranquillity, Gojira, etc.
I do agree on the harmony part. It rarely happens that I do not spin an album from start to finish. When the album is good I will make it to the final track but if it isn't, I will have turned off my CD player without bothering to listen all the way to the end. An album should always be more than the sum of its parts. I don't want three or four good songs on an album, I want all songs to be good. Albums (non-digital) are expensive enough as is.
Daft Punk's RAM has that flow as well, though I can enjoy some songs by themselves as well. It's not an album that I'll spin every week though. Once or twice a month, maybe. The songs are long and rather melancholic so I find it hard to listen to when I'm in a good mood. It's the kind of stuff I'd listen to on a rainy autumn day. It's a good album though, but I find it hard to compare it to their previous ones; it is just too different. Discovery and Human After All were full-out EDM albums but this one lacks the punch and the speed to meet the EDM criterion.
On June 15 2013 18:48 aicaramba wrote: This album has a very 'pink floyd-ish' vibe imo (listen their 'animals' album to know what I mean).. Songs with chapters, lots of sound effects. I really like giorgio by moroder and contact. The drums are great.. I also like the fact that the general tune of a song stays kind of the same, but the support intstruments/sounds vary a lot.
Glad you picked up on this. The album organization/ideas are extremely similar to some Pink Floyd stuff (DSotM & Animals).
On June 15 2013 18:48 aicaramba wrote: This album has a very 'pink floyd-ish' vibe imo (listen their 'animals' album to know what I mean).. Songs with chapters, lots of sound effects. I really like giorgio by moroder and contact. The drums are great.. I also like the fact that the general tune of a song stays kind of the same, but the support intstruments/sounds vary a lot.
Glad you picked up on this. The album organization/ideas are extremely similar to some Pink Floyd stuff (DSotM & Animals).
I agree totally. The Omar Hakim drum parts are so brilliant. I guess you pick up a thing or two when you play for Miles Davis.
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