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Starship Troopers based on Starcraft?

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NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
May 16 2003 22:53 GMT
#1
I just rewatched Starship Troopers recently, and it seems to be a total rip-off of starcraft. Did Blizzard get royalties? Was it meant to be a Starcraft movie? If there is a Starcraft movie Verhoevan who made Starship Troopers would be the perfect director. Maybe they will make a movie in conjunction with SC2, that would be cool.
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Cheez_Dip{PAK}
Profile Joined January 2003
150 Posts
May 16 2003 23:43 GMT
#2
wasnt SST made before SC? I think SC was influenced in part by SST...
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LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
May 16 2003 23:44 GMT
#3
actually, i own the dvd to starship troopers it was based on a novel in the 70's by some guy, if u want i can rewatch the commentary and get the title, author, but only if you sex me :o
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
May 16 2003 23:45 GMT
#4
fyi, i used to think it was based on sc, too ; )
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-16 23:47:41
May 16 2003 23:45 GMT
#5
..Anyone played warhammer 40k? That (together with alien)are both starcraft and starship troopers has got their inspiration (the black coats in SST is really wh40k influenced imo..). Btw the first edition of wh40k came out around the same time as alien 2 (1983).

Regards FrozenArbiter
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
May 17 2003 00:04 GMT
#6
yeah, except no protoss.

The StarCraft story line is way better too.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-05-17 00:30:23
May 17 2003 00:29 GMT
#7
Starship Troopers was a book written in 1958 by Robert Heinlein. Movie very different.

EDIT: typo (I even made it again in the edit..)
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
May 17 2003 01:25 GMT
#8
bleh, 70's 50's, all the same ;D
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
May 17 2003 02:05 GMT
#9
SST a rip-off of SC? Hardly. As already pointed out, it's the other way around. I'm surprised how SF illiterate people are here. Heinlein, people, Heinlein. One of the truly great science fiction grandmasters.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
Cere
Profile Joined March 2003
Seychelles15 Posts
May 17 2003 02:24 GMT
#10
On May 17 2003 08:45 FrozenArbiter wrote:
..Anyone played warhammer 40k? That (together with alien)are both starcraft and starship troopers has got their inspiration (the black coats in SST is really wh40k influenced imo..). Btw the first edition of wh40k came out around the same time as alien 2 (1983).

Regards FrozenArbiter


Hahahaha looks like someone missed the point with SST entirely.
The movie draws several paralells with Nazi germany and the black coats are supposed to be the gestapo uniforms.
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
May 17 2003 02:34 GMT
#11
Hah SST rox

I watched it over 15 times I think.
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 17 2003 02:40 GMT
#12
I'm stupid -__-; Btw, I thought it sucked so incredibly much that I almost fell asleep--

Regards FrozenArbiter
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 17 2003 02:40 GMT
#13
Btw, it's the same in wh40k (nazi germany parallels--).

Regards FrozenArbiter
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ZyMotiC
Profile Joined May 2003
103 Posts
May 17 2003 03:33 GMT
#14
I even have the dvd of SST and I watched over a dozen times and it still rules
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orca
Profile Joined January 2003
Israel469 Posts
May 17 2003 04:11 GMT
#15
FFS, it's giant bugs vs human infantry...

the concept is so OBVIOUS that it can't possibly be considered a ripoff.
Post edited for grammar.
Mydnyte2
Profile Joined April 2003
Canada101 Posts
May 17 2003 04:39 GMT
#16
The zergling like creatures in that movie - Totally owned, ok?
gg no re no thx ^.^;
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animal
Profile Joined October 2002
South Africa168 Posts
May 17 2003 04:54 GMT
#17
SST came out before SC. But the 2nd or so T mission where you have to hold out for 30 mins or so vs streaming zergling 'hordes' made me chuckle when I first played it, as it felt exactly like the SST base scenes.

Of course if you play it now, you totally slaughter the poor ai.
Before enlightenment, chop wood, pour water. After enlightenment, chop wood, pour water.
MichaelReznor
Profile Joined February 2003
United States63 Posts
May 17 2003 04:58 GMT
#18
The Zerg were ripped off of Ender's Game.
I have a big gun
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
May 17 2003 05:17 GMT
#19
SST SUCKS
Cresfy
Profile Joined April 2003
Israel977 Posts
May 17 2003 05:30 GMT
#20
SC is SST based, duh ~
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
May 17 2003 05:38 GMT
#21
I can't see how people can think of SST as a bad movie :/
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
May 17 2003 06:37 GMT
#22
the story sucks, the actors suck, everything sucks. it's a stupid movie
iD.Twisted
Profile Joined September 2002
Netherlands3102 Posts
May 17 2003 07:15 GMT
#23
And you suck too
All you have to decide, is what to do with the time that is given to you
Hades
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada927 Posts
May 17 2003 07:19 GMT
#24
lol, ya starship troopers copied starcraft, they are psychic and made a movie a couple years before starcraft came out, based on starcraft because they knew starcraft was going to be a big hit and they could get a couple of pre-pubescent kids who actually believe that it was based on starcraft to become fans...

Next thing youre gonna tell me is that the Wachowski Bros are philosophers... oh wait
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 17 2003 07:28 GMT
#25
They came out at the exact same time --? 1997 for both I thought?

Regards FrozenArbiter
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 17 2003 09:47 GMT
#26
The movie was terrible, and frankly would've had Heinlein rolling in his grave if he hadn't um... yeah, gone psycho in the 60's. You read Starship Troopers and its all hardline conservative (no women in the MI), corporal punishment, death penalty justified, etc., etc. Then you read The Cat Who Walked Through Walls and its basically:

"Hey you wanna fuck?"
"Sure!"
"Let's go steal stuff."

Same with A Stranger in a Strange Land. Guy from another planet learns about humanity by having sex with it... a lot.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Nevera
Profile Joined May 2003
Finland677 Posts
May 17 2003 10:16 GMT
#27
Lol! Anything rip off from SC? Hahaha. What a joke. SC is a ripoff of anything before it's time. Take anything, for example Babylon 5, and compare it to SC. Also b5 is a ripoff of course, there are hardly new ideas anymore, hasn't been for long time. There is no shame in copying, but don't be hypocrite.
As a movie, SST was a good comedy. You can ruin any movie if you want it magically to be a tribute to the book. Usually they aren't. Don't read books.
Moo i say
XG3
Profile Joined December 2002
United States544 Posts
May 17 2003 10:53 GMT
#28
Blizzard always uses film influences when they make their games.

For Starcraft, their main influence was Starship Troopers, which is why SC is so similar to it. From the news flash cinematics to the concept of an "overmind" that can be pacified by those psychic scientists (ghosts). Remember that one part where the "dead stukov" was ejected from the ship in that little coffin pod? Yea, that was taken from Starship Troopers as well.
brandon
Profile Joined March 2003
Turkmenistan103 Posts
May 17 2003 12:29 GMT
#29
Regarding the Wachowski brothers....I doubt if few people actually think they were the first people to toy around with the idea of the matrix (a false reality). How old is that idea anyway?
Reynard
Profile Joined February 2003
United States125 Posts
May 17 2003 13:26 GMT
#30
Actually you're all fucking stupid, the Black Coats were made to represent the SS Death's Head Division, NOT the Gestapo.

Gestapo wore brown uniforms, learn your fucking history.
I just cant help myself...I feel like Im going out of my head...
NoName
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1558 Posts
May 17 2003 13:59 GMT
#31
Every story has already been told a million times, a million ways, it's how you tell it that makes the difference.
Wam-bam-ba-boom! Bada-bing!
x[ReaPeR]x
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3447 Posts
May 17 2003 14:30 GMT
#32
The movie is far inferior to the book IMO.
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Cresfy
Profile Joined April 2003
Israel977 Posts
May 17 2003 14:53 GMT
#33
SST TV series was cool, yet the movie sucked badly.

Guys
SC is very much SST based
So what
it's cool ~
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 17 2003 16:31 GMT
#34
On May 17 2003 19:16 Nevera wrote:
Don't read books.


Ok Hitler? :/
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
tenbagger
Profile Joined October 2002
United States1289 Posts
May 17 2003 17:26 GMT
#35
the story might have sucked, but denise richards! I wanted to give her my stimpack.
ayer
Profile Joined February 2003
Mexico164 Posts
May 17 2003 20:59 GMT
#36
sst was written dunno how long b4 starcraft was made :[
ayer
Profile Joined February 2003
Mexico164 Posts
May 17 2003 21:00 GMT
#37
btw new dogs own =o
ayer
Profile Joined February 2003
Mexico164 Posts
May 17 2003 21:01 GMT
#38
ObsoleteLogic United States. May 18 2003 01:31. Posts 309 Quote

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On May 17 2003 19:16 Nevera wrote:
Don't read books.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Ok Hitler? :/

Hitler read books :[ he wrote one 2
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 17 2003 21:17 GMT
#39
Are you not familiar with the massive numbers of books that were burned in Nazi Germany?
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
Commander{+}
Profile Joined December 2002
United States2878 Posts
May 17 2003 23:11 GMT
#40
SST was a good movie. I'm with you Twisted!
4 cheers for Ryan307
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
May 17 2003 23:34 GMT
#41
The news reports were kinda funny in SST. Best part of the movie was the first news report

But yah, the movie was pretty bad.
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
animal
Profile Joined October 2002
South Africa168 Posts
May 18 2003 03:11 GMT
#42
I liked the propaganda in the SST film. Very amusing. But also realise that the book had very little in common with the film.
Before enlightenment, chop wood, pour water. After enlightenment, chop wood, pour water.
Ceril
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden1343 Posts
May 19 2003 16:02 GMT
#43
The Film is a quite good evening snack, and the book is a good read.
Just because you can now store where everyone was and is, what they like, what they fear who they talk to and who they love. It does not mean we should so spy upon our fellow man in a dystopia far worse then 1984
Eliminator
Profile Joined December 2002
Netherlands681 Posts
May 20 2003 03:47 GMT
#44
Sounds good with Denise Richards ^^ Should go watch it on tv someday.
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
May 20 2003 04:01 GMT
#45
i still say it should of been denise in the shower scene --;
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
May 21 2003 05:44 GMT
#46
On May 18 2003 06:17 ObsoleteLogic wrote:
Are you not familiar with the massive numbers of books that were burned in Nazi Germany?

he burned only books he didnt like- like Jewish books.
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
May 21 2003 05:45 GMT
#47
yea and wats the connection between Babylon 5 and SC?
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
May 22 2003 09:57 GMT
#48
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DeoDoubleG
Profile Joined January 2003
Philippines349 Posts
May 22 2003 10:10 GMT
#49
On May 17 2003 21:29 brandon wrote:
Regarding the Wachowski brothers....I doubt if few people actually think they were the first people to toy around with the idea of the matrix (a false reality). How old is that idea anyway?


That idea is over 200 years old. Some philospher named Descarte thought of some shit like, what would happen if our reality was just projected from an evil demon? same exact shit from the matrix, except matrix has comptuers instead.
ObsoleteLogic
Profile Joined February 2003
United States3676 Posts
May 22 2003 12:48 GMT
#50
Meanander, almost all of Heinlein's writing differs greatly from SST. I was very surprised, because it was the first book of his I read... the next two were as though written by a different person.
sMi.Silent // Siz)Silent
AzulSeca
Profile Joined June 2010
United States36 Posts
May 13 2011 06:32 GMT
#51
Wow I just watched the 3rd one ( didn't even know it existed) And it is so much like sc. Even down the the Federation and terran emblem, also I saw the word terran in the movie somewhere too.

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Nesto
Profile Joined November 2009
Switzerland1318 Posts
May 13 2011 06:35 GMT
#52
On May 13 2011 15:32 AzulSeca wrote:
Wow I just watched the 3rd one ( didn't even know it existed) And it is so much like sc. Even down the the Federation and terran emblem, also I saw the word terran in the movie somewhere too.



and even the marauders are op in that movie, OMG!
redmarine
Profile Joined August 2009
Denmark165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-13 06:37:27
May 13 2011 06:36 GMT
#53
Why are you guys necro'ing old threads? This one is around 8 years old.
ryanAnger
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States838 Posts
May 13 2011 06:39 GMT
#54
On May 13 2011 15:36 redmarine wrote:
Why are you guys necro'ing old threads? This one is around 8 years old.


If there's grass in the field, play ball! If there isn't, play ball anyway!
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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
May 13 2011 06:43 GMT
#55
Ohh Jinro from a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.. Using a signature, love it!
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
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Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
May 13 2011 06:48 GMT
#56
Nice bump

The aliens did always remind me of SC, with the Zerglings, and now even roaches resembling them.

Also, look at the Brainbug and infestors, creepy, huh?
you gotta dance
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2514 Posts
May 13 2011 06:53 GMT
#57
Starship Troopers is a military science fiction novel by Robert A. Heinlein, first published (in abridged form) as a serial in The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction (October, November 1959, as "Starship Soldier") and published hardcover in December, 1959.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15324 Posts
May 13 2011 07:06 GMT
#58
LoL @ young Jinro for signing :-)

Yeha please don't bump stone old threads unnecessarily
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