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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
February 21 2013 19:32 GMT
#41
Well when you put it the way the OP did, I guess I'm just gonna have to agree. I never really thought of it that way before.
Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
February 21 2013 19:33 GMT
#42
My personal opinion is that if you judge people then you are compensating for your own shortcomings, and projecting them on other people to protect your own oversized ego.

Thus I would not say that a woman being a gold digger is bad. It is how she chooses to live her life according to her priorities. I wish her the best for it.

I don't see any reason to hate someone based on them having taking a liking for money.
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 21 2013 19:35 GMT
#43
On February 22 2013 04:28 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 04:24 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:17 Shival wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:14 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:08 Shival wrote:
It's superficial because looks change over the years, as can wealth. Both can change alot (most often more than other factors), suddenly in the case of wealth, gradually but assuredly in the case of looks. Basing a relationship and children solely, or mostly on one or both of these factors is a recipe for disaster. I won't deny that alot of us step into a relationship for a great deal because of these factors, it's like you say biologically a valid reasoning for better offspring. However, does something being biological make it not superficial? If anything I would say it makes it exactly that, superficial.

Not to mention that it's based on an evolutionary concept. Children are more likely to have good genes because of the looks of their parents, and their 'wealth', or rather 'strength/postion' in this case is more likely to provide good upbringing for the children.
However, is that still the case? I would argue it's not.


Looks do not change much over the years unless you overeat, smoke heavily, drink heavily, or do something extreme that affects you physically.


Rubbish, are you honestly going to argue you look relatively the same when you're 25 compared to 50?


No one looks the same due to aging alone. However, they will usually look very similar. Rarely does someone look unrecognizable.


Exactly my point. Looks will change, given sufficient years alot. To base a relationship on looks only, or mostly will make it unstable over the years, unless you change the basis of the relationship.


If you base your relationship on looks alone (or any singular trait alone), you will have a bad time. Once again I direct you to the point that this is rarely condoned in our society. Men who date hot women and are bossed around by them are not admired since we also value self-autonomy and classic views of masculinity.
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Megakenny
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada829 Posts
February 21 2013 19:35 GMT
#44
My exgirlfriend left me for a man twice her age because he has lots of money. We dated for two years before this, she still loves me. She drinks a lot now. Money doesn't make you happy.
11cc
Profile Joined May 2008
Finland561 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 19:37:55
February 21 2013 19:36 GMT
#45
Uhh... If a woman is attracted to a wealthy man, she is expecting the guy to spend a lot of money on her, and every cent is away from the man. Men who like beautiful women doesn't take away their beauty.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
February 21 2013 19:37 GMT
#46
A lot of men would be uncomfortable with a partner that is a lot wealthier than them. I don't think that's true the other way around usually.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
February 21 2013 19:37 GMT
#47
I don't see anything wrong with women being attracted to money. Now a woman who marries a guy SOLELY for his money, that's a bit empty to me.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
February 21 2013 19:38 GMT
#48
Why would you assume that men care more about looks that anything else? Personally i highly doubt that i would ever get into a relationship with someone who does not either hold a Master's Degree or is working towards it, preferably from a top 100 university. For me social status is more important than good looks.
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
February 21 2013 19:38 GMT
#49
On February 22 2013 04:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 04:28 Shival wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:24 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:17 Shival wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:14 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:08 Shival wrote:
It's superficial because looks change over the years, as can wealth. Both can change alot (most often more than other factors), suddenly in the case of wealth, gradually but assuredly in the case of looks. Basing a relationship and children solely, or mostly on one or both of these factors is a recipe for disaster. I won't deny that alot of us step into a relationship for a great deal because of these factors, it's like you say biologically a valid reasoning for better offspring. However, does something being biological make it not superficial? If anything I would say it makes it exactly that, superficial.

Not to mention that it's based on an evolutionary concept. Children are more likely to have good genes because of the looks of their parents, and their 'wealth', or rather 'strength/postion' in this case is more likely to provide good upbringing for the children.
However, is that still the case? I would argue it's not.


Looks do not change much over the years unless you overeat, smoke heavily, drink heavily, or do something extreme that affects you physically.


Rubbish, are you honestly going to argue you look relatively the same when you're 25 compared to 50?


No one looks the same due to aging alone. However, they will usually look very similar. Rarely does someone look unrecognizable.


Exactly my point. Looks will change, given sufficient years alot. To base a relationship on looks only, or mostly will make it unstable over the years, unless you change the basis of the relationship.


If you base your relationship on looks alone (or any singular trait alone), you will have a bad time. Once again I direct you to the point that this is rarely condoned in our society. Men who date hot women and are bossed around by them are not admired since we also value self-autonomy and classic views of masculinity.


Then I guess we were only discussing pedantics. We're pretty much of the same opinion, as can be seen in my first post.
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 19:39:20
February 21 2013 19:38 GMT
#50
On February 22 2013 04:26 MrRicewife wrote:
Ohhh boy.. You are young.. I'm guessing 15-21? Let me just give you a little taste of the real world.


Save the condenscending attitude there fella, nobody gives a rats ass how old and experienced you think you are. You got so caught up emotionally in my opening post you missed the point completely.
And lol on the "little taste of the real world".
We decide our own destiny
GERMasta
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany212 Posts
February 21 2013 19:38 GMT
#51
But is superficiality a bad thing? I don't think so, it's simply biological.

Women attracted to men with money because their lifestyle / children will be taken cared of. Is this a bad thing? No. It's just personal preference.
Decide - which is it? Personal preference or biology? If the former: personal preferences can be terrible (subjectivism is pretty bad); if the latter: whatever is natural does not necessarily have to be good (naturalistic fallacy).

Once we realize every single one of us is guilty of superficiality, it no longer becomes a measure to judge people on.
This is a tu quoque fallacy: You attack person x for arguing that we should not be superficial by pointing out that they're a hypocrite. But being a hypocrite does not logically invalidate one's arguments.
mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 19:39:47
February 21 2013 19:39 GMT
#52
Its logical and natural women to love men with money.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 21 2013 19:41 GMT
#53
On February 22 2013 04:37 Grumbels wrote:
A lot of men would be uncomfortable with a partner that is a lot wealthier than them. I don't think that's true the other way around usually.


That's just a leftover from earlier masculine ideals.

On February 22 2013 04:38 Shival wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 04:35 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:28 Shival wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:24 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:17 Shival wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:14 CosmicSpiral wrote:
On February 22 2013 04:08 Shival wrote:
It's superficial because looks change over the years, as can wealth. Both can change alot (most often more than other factors), suddenly in the case of wealth, gradually but assuredly in the case of looks. Basing a relationship and children solely, or mostly on one or both of these factors is a recipe for disaster. I won't deny that alot of us step into a relationship for a great deal because of these factors, it's like you say biologically a valid reasoning for better offspring. However, does something being biological make it not superficial? If anything I would say it makes it exactly that, superficial.

Not to mention that it's based on an evolutionary concept. Children are more likely to have good genes because of the looks of their parents, and their 'wealth', or rather 'strength/postion' in this case is more likely to provide good upbringing for the children.
However, is that still the case? I would argue it's not.


Looks do not change much over the years unless you overeat, smoke heavily, drink heavily, or do something extreme that affects you physically.


Rubbish, are you honestly going to argue you look relatively the same when you're 25 compared to 50?


No one looks the same due to aging alone. However, they will usually look very similar. Rarely does someone look unrecognizable.


Exactly my point. Looks will change, given sufficient years alot. To base a relationship on looks only, or mostly will make it unstable over the years, unless you change the basis of the relationship.


If you base your relationship on looks alone (or any singular trait alone), you will have a bad time. Once again I direct you to the point that this is rarely condoned in our society. Men who date hot women and are bossed around by them are not admired since we also value self-autonomy and classic views of masculinity.


Then I guess we were only discussing pedantics. We're pretty much of the same opinion, as can be seen in my first post.


Pretty much. I think superficiality is a matter of attitude rather than subject.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Intox
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway62 Posts
February 21 2013 19:42 GMT
#54
Well obviously these relationships have their advantages like you've mentioned with genes and a good future for possible children. However the reason people react to relationships based on "money in exchange for beauty" is not only the obvious parallel to prostitution, but also the lack of a foundation based on love and common interests.

Take me as a chemical engineer for example, I could get together with some dumb blonde that has no idea what I do and doesn't give a shit about it. I'll buy her stuff to make her happy, she lets me have sex with her and I'm happy? Is that really all it would take too fulfill me?

My answer is no. I atleast want to have something incommon with the mother of my childen, it's not something I could share with a woman I don't respect and love. Maybe that makes me a hopeless romantic, but I'll keep waiting for it.

To be clear I don't mind others doing this, I just couldn't really commit to a relationship such as that myself.
Shival
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands643 Posts
February 21 2013 19:43 GMT
#55
On February 22 2013 04:38 Tien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 04:26 MrRicewife wrote:
Ohhh boy.. You are young.. I'm guessing 15-21? Let me just give you a little taste of the real world.


Save the condenscending attitude there fella, nobody gives a rats ass how old and experienced you think you are. You got so caught up emotionally in my opening post you missed the point completely.
And lol on the "little taste of the real world".


Yet you are sidestepping his other valid comments right now.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
February 21 2013 19:44 GMT
#56
As I see it, time spent with your partner should please you. A gold digger doesn't want to spend time with a wealthy partner; a gold digger wants to spend time with money, and uses a wealthy partner to acquire it. That is very different from eroticizing wealthy partners.

Likewise, a person who desires beautiful partners as a status symbol is very different from a person who desires beautiful partners because they particularly enjoy beauty.
My strategy is to fork people.
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
February 21 2013 19:44 GMT
#57
On February 22 2013 04:42 Intox wrote:
Well obviously these relationships have their advantages like you've mentioned with genes and a good future for possible children. However the reason people react to relationships based on "money in exchange for beauty" is not only the obvious parallel to prostitution, but also the lack of a foundation based on love and common interests.

Take me as a chemical engineer for example, I could get together with some dumb blonde that has no idea what I do and doesn't give a shit about it. I'll buy her stuff to make her happy, she lets me have sex with her and I'm happy? Is that really all it would take too fulfill me?

My answer is no. I atleast want to have something incommon with the mother of my childen, it's not something I could share with a woman I don't respect and love. Maybe that makes me a hopeless romantic, but I'll keep waiting for it.

To be clear I don't mind others doing this, I just couldn't really commit to a relationship such as that myself.


Random butt-in: you don't want to talk about prostitutes when discussing "money in exchange for beauty". Maybe courtesans.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
February 21 2013 19:45 GMT
#58
Those are the worst kind, cause they're the ones who expect to not have to ever work, and want you to buy them everything
fuck that
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TheFlock
Profile Joined September 2011
United States389 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 19:49:57
February 21 2013 19:48 GMT
#59
On February 22 2013 04:17 WikidSik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 04:12 aTnClouD wrote:
If you are wealthy and your wife stays with you just because of your money you will most likely end up raising somebody's else son without knowing. Women can't choose who they are attracted to as men do because they are more emotional and impulsive and the chance of being cheated on if she is not attracted to you is close to 100%. Also what kind of shitty relationship would it be anyway? If you want to fuck a hot woman you can just go prostitutes, they are cheaper anyway.

woah woah woah women are impulsive? I swear to god its the other way around. And biologically speaking, women have to be more careful about emotional things such as sex cuz it affects them waaaay more than it does for men.


They should be more careful about emotional things, but they arent. They give in to their emotion all the time even tho it can be the dumbest thing to do. Currently experiencing a great example of this in the form of my gf's best friend. Bitches be crazy...

OT: I can only understand the "golddigger" mentality if the woman's attraction is based on her attraction to the qualities that got the man his money, like ambition, ingenuity, brilliance, hardworking, dedicated, etc. However, what ive seen is girls that want to marry a rich guy out of pure laziness (so they never have to work) or some notion of their only job being to raise the family and be a loyal wife for their husband's family (which who is to say that is wrong, just opinion).

Men may be more shallow when it comes to looks i believe because of the prevalence of beautiful models and how every man aspires to have one from a young age. As a whole society seems to be okay with the fact that men are supposed to want a girlfriend that's a model, and every woman feels like they need to try their best to be that model (because that's what men want?). Maybe there is just too much emphasis all around on physical beauty?

Just my thoughts
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 21 2013 19:50 GMT
#60
Maybe your friends are just bros? None of my friends are into good looking women that are annoying/dumb/etc. People conversate about what is readily available (oh she is hot, dam I would need a few beers for that , etc) But I dont know many people that actually rate looks as their #1 including myself.

Can be the hottest girl in the world but if she is even remotely bitchy or annoying, not gonna have any part of that.
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