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caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 17:53:52
February 04 2013 16:55 GMT
#41
Does this hurt individual channels who people had to subscribe to individually? They certainly won't be getting any paid subscribers now. Why should I pay 5$ to subscribe to IPLs twitch channel if I can just get a site-wide subscription?

EDIT: way to not read the thread. Nazgul addressed this literally two posts above >.> <.<

Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
February 04 2013 16:56 GMT
#42
" If they run an ad, you don't see one but they get paid for it as if you had. " from Justin Wong in the comment section of the twitch blog.

I wonder if that means that a fill rate of 100% is assumed for the turbo users or the actual fill rate. If 100% is assumed that could actually increase the income for non-subscribed channels by quite a lot.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 17:00:07
February 04 2013 16:57 GMT
#43
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here. I'll keep using adblock, thanks.
o choro é livre
tiaz
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden231 Posts
February 04 2013 16:57 GMT
#44
i would gladly pay that amount to be able to watch the proleague vods on best quality without lag... the only tournament i've ever had that problem with on twitch
"When you play, you have to start off with a mind to turn the game into a rape." - Iloveoov
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
February 04 2013 17:01 GMT
#45
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote:
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here

Mafia, what? They aren't going to break your kneecaps if you don't pay. This is a pretty regular way of monetizing things.
twitter: @terrancem
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 04 2013 17:03 GMT
#46
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote:
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here. I'll keep using adblock, thanks.


Because Twitch is funded by pixie dust. You are such a special person that the streaming platform has come about just to entertain you. How dare they not be charitable to you.
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
February 04 2013 17:06 GMT
#47
What I want to know, is how will this tie in with the xbox360 service which is meant to be coming very soon.
Whats the altitude?
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
February 04 2013 17:06 GMT
#48
On February 05 2013 02:01 GogoKodo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote:
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here

Mafia, what? They aren't going to break your kneecaps if you don't pay. This is a pretty regular way of monetizing things.

Well, that's not a very honest way to do business if you ask me. Back in the days, when people wanted to avoid ads, they simply switched channels. Anyway, there are a lot of foolish people on the internet who are willing to pay for stuff they can get for free, so GLHF to twitch.
o choro é livre
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
February 04 2013 17:07 GMT
#49
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote:
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here. I'll keep using adblock, thanks.

The paying isn't the issue to be honest, but paying an amount equal to a GSL subscription on a yearly basis is. I cheat twitch (and players) out of maybe 50 cents on a monthly basis by using adblock and I'm not paying 1800% of that to rectify it. Watching the ads is not gonna happen because they're all obnoxious and intrusive, so adblock it is.

Have twitch make a fair offer as an alternative and I might consider it.
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
February 04 2013 17:07 GMT
#50
So this is for no-ads but not higher definition streams?
I still feel subing to a channel directly will help them more. Sure: people will pay for the service, but I feel like the streams may be losing money indirectly...
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
February 04 2013 17:07 GMT
#51
Guys come on - Nazgul defending the move is a clear sign that its legit.

I mean, when have TL ever fucked over anybody?
Useless wet fish.
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 17:12:40
February 04 2013 17:09 GMT
#52
Yeah, apparently more annoying faces. Is there still no way to block those?

/edit: v Tz @Nazgul
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
February 04 2013 17:14 GMT
#53
On February 05 2013 02:07 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote:
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here. I'll keep using adblock, thanks.

The paying isn't the issue to be honest, but paying an amount equal to a GSL subscription on a yearly basis is. I cheat twitch (and players) out of maybe 50 cents on a monthly basis by using adblock and I'm not paying 1800% of that to rectify it. Watching the ads is not gonna happen because they're all obnoxious and intrusive, so adblock it is.

Have twitch make a fair offer as an alternative and I might consider it.


Making a fair offer is exactly what they are doing after all you selfish fucks bitched and whined and ad blocked if you were ever subjected to the horrors of a noticeable ad. And it's still not enough. You won't consider any alternative offer. You simply want to consume the content, for free, without any inconvenience and that's what you're going to do. Luckily there are some honest people out there or the streaming industry would come crashing down. You are a leech. At least admit to it rather than trying to justify it.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
February 04 2013 17:15 GMT
#54
Damn, Nazgul deleting his witty jab. Was wondering why sub thread showed (-1) unread.


Back on topic, I'm sure if the big subscribers notice any fallout from this we will know in the coming weeks. Twitch is pretty responsive with the community so all should be fine. If Twitch has to increase their monetization then so be it. If the model works, twitch works, if it doesn't twitch tries something else or goes under. I highly doubt they are in danger of going under so let's all chill and see if this works or not!

The only problem like I said before is I'm not sure ad-free for $8.99 is worth it to me. I watch my share of streams but mostly tournament streams and less so players. That price point is more than I pay for netflix which is quite a bit more content than game streams. I understand the price points shouldn't be compared like this because of various reasons but it still irks me in some way.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
February 04 2013 17:17 GMT
#55
On February 05 2013 02:06 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 02:01 GogoKodo wrote:
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote:
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here

Mafia, what? They aren't going to break your kneecaps if you don't pay. This is a pretty regular way of monetizing things.

Well, that's not a very honest way to do business if you ask me. Back in the days, when people wanted to avoid ads, they simply switched channels. Anyway, there are a lot of foolish people on the internet who are willing to pay for stuff they can get for free, so GLHF to twitch.


The back in the day attitude is what holds back innovation. Freemium is much more beneficial to a growing scene than a paywall. See MLG Arenas.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
February 04 2013 17:21 GMT
#56
On February 05 2013 02:17 dubRa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 02:06 Al Bundy wrote:
On February 05 2013 02:01 GogoKodo wrote:
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote:
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here

Mafia, what? They aren't going to break your kneecaps if you don't pay. This is a pretty regular way of monetizing things.

Well, that's not a very honest way to do business if you ask me. Back in the days, when people wanted to avoid ads, they simply switched channels. Anyway, there are a lot of foolish people on the internet who are willing to pay for stuff they can get for free, so GLHF to twitch.


The back in the day attitude is what holds back innovation. Freemium is much more beneficial to a growing scene than a paywall. See MLG Arenas.

The real ''innovation" would be to broadcast tournaments on an actual TV channel, like the koreans do. There, ads make perfect sense.
o choro é livre
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
February 04 2013 17:23 GMT
#57
Bitches want swords and shit. Take a hint from Blizz and pimp that icon. Battery. Lol. If they wanted to sell this service they'd have a selection of moderately cool pixels for suckers, forgive me, their clientele, to choose from.
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
February 04 2013 17:23 GMT
#58
On February 05 2013 02:06 Al Bundy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 02:01 GogoKodo wrote:
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote:
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here

Mafia, what? They aren't going to break your kneecaps if you don't pay. This is a pretty regular way of monetizing things.

Well, that's not a very honest way to do business if you ask me. Back in the days, when people wanted to avoid ads, they simply switched channels. Anyway, there are a lot of foolish people on the internet who are willing to pay for stuff they can get for free, so GLHF to twitch.

It's not dishonest in any way, I'm not sure how you find anything dishonest in what they are doing.

You have the whole internet at your fingertips, when an ad comes on mute it and read some teamliquid.
twitter: @terrancem
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
February 04 2013 17:26 GMT
#59
On February 05 2013 02:06 Chewits wrote:
What I want to know, is how will this tie in with the xbox360 service which is meant to be coming very soon.


Is it really gonna happen ? It was supposed to be operationnal for fall 2012.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-04 17:31:50
February 04 2013 17:29 GMT
#60
On February 05 2013 02:23 GogoKodo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2013 02:06 Al Bundy wrote:
On February 05 2013 02:01 GogoKodo wrote:
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote:
Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here

Mafia, what? They aren't going to break your kneecaps if you don't pay. This is a pretty regular way of monetizing things.

Well, that's not a very honest way to do business if you ask me. Back in the days, when people wanted to avoid ads, they simply switched channels. Anyway, there are a lot of foolish people on the internet who are willing to pay for stuff they can get for free, so GLHF to twitch.

It's not dishonest in any way, I'm not sure how you find anything dishonest in what they are doing.

You have the whole internet at your fingertips, when an ad comes on mute it and read some teamliquid.

From my perspective, they take something that's free and try to sell it. That does not sound legit. Let's be real here; the emoticons, the turbo badge, the expanded chat colors are unnecessary, shallow and superficial and definitely not worth paying for. Also what is a priority customer support? I've been watching twitch for years and I've never had the need to use their customer support.
o choro é livre
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