EPTEDIT: way to not read the thread. Nazgul addressed this literally two posts above >.> <.<
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caradoc
Canada3022 Posts
EDIT: way to not read the thread. Nazgul addressed this literally two posts above >.> <.< | ||
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TBO
Germany1350 Posts
I wonder if that means that a fill rate of 100% is assumed for the turbo users or the actual fill rate. If 100% is assumed that could actually increase the income for non-subscribed channels by quite a lot. | ||
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Al Bundy
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tiaz
Sweden231 Posts
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote: Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here Mafia, what? They aren't going to break your kneecaps if you don't pay. This is a pretty regular way of monetizing things. | ||
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote: Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here. I'll keep using adblock, thanks. Because Twitch is funded by pixie dust. You are such a special person that the streaming platform has come about just to entertain you. How dare they not be charitable to you. | ||
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Chewits
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On February 05 2013 02:01 GogoKodo wrote: Mafia, what? They aren't going to break your kneecaps if you don't pay. This is a pretty regular way of monetizing things. Well, that's not a very honest way to do business if you ask me. Back in the days, when people wanted to avoid ads, they simply switched channels. Anyway, there are a lot of foolish people on the internet who are willing to pay for stuff they can get for free, so GLHF to twitch. | ||
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On February 05 2013 01:57 Al Bundy wrote: Gotta love the fact that we have to PAY in order to NOT watch ads. Feels like i'm in business with the Mafia here. I'll keep using adblock, thanks. The paying isn't the issue to be honest, but paying an amount equal to a GSL subscription on a yearly basis is. I cheat twitch (and players) out of maybe 50 cents on a monthly basis by using adblock and I'm not paying 1800% of that to rectify it. Watching the ads is not gonna happen because they're all obnoxious and intrusive, so adblock it is. Have twitch make a fair offer as an alternative and I might consider it. | ||
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Hikari
1914 Posts
I still feel subing to a channel directly will help them more. Sure: people will pay for the service, but I feel like the streams may be losing money indirectly... | ||
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
I mean, when have TL ever fucked over anybody? | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
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Exarl25
1887 Posts
On February 05 2013 02:07 Derez wrote: The paying isn't the issue to be honest, but paying an amount equal to a GSL subscription on a yearly basis is. I cheat twitch (and players) out of maybe 50 cents on a monthly basis by using adblock and I'm not paying 1800% of that to rectify it. Watching the ads is not gonna happen because they're all obnoxious and intrusive, so adblock it is. Have twitch make a fair offer as an alternative and I might consider it. Making a fair offer is exactly what they are doing after all you selfish fucks bitched and whined and ad blocked if you were ever subjected to the horrors of a noticeable ad. And it's still not enough. You won't consider any alternative offer. You simply want to consume the content, for free, without any inconvenience and that's what you're going to do. Luckily there are some honest people out there or the streaming industry would come crashing down. You are a leech. At least admit to it rather than trying to justify it. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
Back on topic, I'm sure if the big subscribers notice any fallout from this we will know in the coming weeks. Twitch is pretty responsive with the community so all should be fine. If Twitch has to increase their monetization then so be it. If the model works, twitch works, if it doesn't twitch tries something else or goes under. I highly doubt they are in danger of going under so let's all chill and see if this works or not! The only problem like I said before is I'm not sure ad-free for $8.99 is worth it to me. I watch my share of streams but mostly tournament streams and less so players. That price point is more than I pay for netflix which is quite a bit more content than game streams. I understand the price points shouldn't be compared like this because of various reasons but it still irks me in some way. | ||
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dubRa
2165 Posts
On February 05 2013 02:06 Al Bundy wrote: Well, that's not a very honest way to do business if you ask me. Back in the days, when people wanted to avoid ads, they simply switched channels. Anyway, there are a lot of foolish people on the internet who are willing to pay for stuff they can get for free, so GLHF to twitch. The back in the day attitude is what holds back innovation. Freemium is much more beneficial to a growing scene than a paywall. See MLG Arenas. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On February 05 2013 02:17 dubRa wrote: The back in the day attitude is what holds back innovation. Freemium is much more beneficial to a growing scene than a paywall. See MLG Arenas. The real ''innovation" would be to broadcast tournaments on an actual TV channel, like the koreans do. There, ads make perfect sense. | ||
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Thrill
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GogoKodo
Canada1785 Posts
On February 05 2013 02:06 Al Bundy wrote: Well, that's not a very honest way to do business if you ask me. Back in the days, when people wanted to avoid ads, they simply switched channels. Anyway, there are a lot of foolish people on the internet who are willing to pay for stuff they can get for free, so GLHF to twitch. It's not dishonest in any way, I'm not sure how you find anything dishonest in what they are doing. You have the whole internet at your fingertips, when an ad comes on mute it and read some teamliquid. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On February 05 2013 02:06 Chewits wrote: What I want to know, is how will this tie in with the xbox360 service which is meant to be coming very soon. Is it really gonna happen ? It was supposed to be operationnal for fall 2012. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On February 05 2013 02:23 GogoKodo wrote: It's not dishonest in any way, I'm not sure how you find anything dishonest in what they are doing. You have the whole internet at your fingertips, when an ad comes on mute it and read some teamliquid. From my perspective, they take something that's free and try to sell it. That does not sound legit. Let's be real here; the emoticons, the turbo badge, the expanded chat colors are unnecessary, shallow and superficial and definitely not worth paying for. Also what is a priority customer support? I've been watching twitch for years and I've never had the need to use their customer support. | ||
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