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On March 08 2013 12:46 white_horse wrote:


If you don't know enough about what you are talking about, don't make statements about it, especially big claims like this one. Shelling seoul means that south korean airstrikes and counter artillery would destroy much of the north's ability to make artillery barrages. Also, south korean military intelligence and US satellites monitor north korea's military movements 24/7 and if it was really imminent that north korea was actually going to attack, they would probably make preemptive strikes.

And "completely overrun south korea" and "blow south korea to shit"? Are you trolling? Or are you actually being serious? Do you think the south korean military is just going to sit there and let them pass? This isn't 1950. South korea has well-trained US-supported armies. The north korean military uses severely outdated equipment and most of its soldiers are underfed and do not train regularly because of money problems. The DMZ is heavily fortified and the regions north of seoul are lined by 20 foot concrete walls to prevent north korean tanks from rolling down. The entire south korean military exists and trains in the sole purpose of defending the country in the event of a north korean attack so I am completely clueless as to how you came to the conclusion that north korea is going to walk over south korea like you wrote.

On March 08 2013 10:34 1Dhalism wrote:

How can you doubt that they are insane. I dont think anyone would argue that Stalin was insane, and he was doing the same thing, except he actually had a country that had the capacity to back his words.
Now a year ago i would argue that they are insane, but might not be stupid, but that's out of the window now since they seem to not value their relationship with China or Russia either.
The father mightve been an evil doctrine mastermind, but the son grew up on that doctrine, and he might very well believe his lies.

On March 08 2013 12:46 white_horse wrote:


If you don't know enough about what you are talking about, don't make statements about it, especially big claims like this one. Shelling seoul means that south korean airstrikes and counter artillery would destroy much of the north's ability to make artillery barrages. Also, south korean military intelligence and US satellites monitor north korea's military movements 24/7 and if it was really imminent that north korea was actually going to attack, it's highly likely that they would make preemptive strikes.

And "completely overrun south korea" and "blow south korea to shit"? Are you trolling? Or are you actually being serious? Do you think the south korean military is just going to sit there and let them pass? This isn't 1950. South korea has well-trained armies. It also has access to US military technologies thanks to its alliance with the US. The north korean military uses severely outdated equipment and most of its soldiers are underfed and do not train regularly because of money problems. The DMZ is heavily fortified and the regions north of seoul are lined by 20 foot concrete walls to prevent north korean tanks from rolling down. The entire south korean military exists and trains in the sole purpose of defending the country in the event of a north korean attack so I am completely clueless as to how you came to the conclusion that north korea is going to walk over south korea like you wrote.

On March 08 2013 13:08 revel8 wrote:
This is potentially serious shit. Some folks on here seem blase about war kicking off. If North Korean leadership are irrational then it is VERY easy to kick off a shooting war, cos things can escalate very quickly. And if war does develop, lots of people are gonna die, no matter the final outcome. Have people forgotten the Korean War or Vietnam? Things hardly went according to plan for anybody. Have people forgotten that China is a factor in any conflict and that the USA is still engaged in Afghanistan?

The ONLY thing maintaining the ceasefire is because kicking off a conflict again seems irrational, but that may not be the view of the North Korean leadership. Who knows what people will do if they are desperate enough? I am not saying war is likely, but people should not take it lightly. Some people think flying a plane into a building is an irrational thing to do, but it happened.

On March 08 2013 13:01 KwarK wrote:

On the contrary, I think most people with a good grasp of history would understand that Stalin, particularly in the later years, was a full blown alcoholic and was experiencing paranoid delusions among other symptoms.

On March 08 2013 13:20 FabledIntegral wrote:


I specialized in East-Asian International Economics and Events and focused particularly on the North Korean/South Korean conflict during my undergrad. I took entire classes devoted exclusively to the topic (with the other less discussed topic being the China/Taiwan conflict). We had South Korean students who had already done their mandatory service give speeches on the matter. One of my good friends, who told me I'd be his best man when he got married, is one of these South Koreans who has served in the military along the border and told me all about his experience. I am very acquainted in the subject matter, thank you very much.

To clarify, completely overrun referred to simply the front line of defense at the DMZ. If a fight broke out right now, the North Koreans would easily overrun the SK/U.S. combined forces. It would not be a permanent situation, of course, but due to sheer manpower they could not hold the lines.

On March 08 2013 13:46 FromShouri wrote:
So what do you all think of north korea dissolving all the non hostility pacts and threatening to turn Washington and Seoul into flaming ashes?

On March 08 2013 13:38 white_horse wrote:


I studied at a korean university in seoul and have taken courses related to this topic too. Does that make me an expert on this? It's merely anecdotal evidence. If you are as well-versed in the topic as you say you are, I'm still not exactly sure what kind of research or books you have studied or what kind of things your professor said in order to have you come to make big claims like north korea will "blow south korea to shit". I'm sure it's impossible to stop the 1.1 million north korean soldiers running across the DMZ but "blow south korea to shit"?

On March 08 2013 13:48 SirKibbleX wrote:
People always act like military combat still works in a 1:1 way like it did circa the 1800s. Let me tell you something: one sniper in a good position, or one good machine gun crew, can essentially kill INFINITE numbers of men if their military force-multipliers are effective enough. German air power was able to hold off superior Russian ground forces for a long while because they were able to achieve 100:1 kill-death ratios in air combat, because of their superior training, tactics, and equipment.

I suspect that if the North Koreans tried to invade SK on foot or in simple vehicles their losses would be utterly catastrophic.

If you don't understand how a defensive army with cutting-edge technology and thinking that has had 50+ years to prepare for a linear, one-dimensional invasion can hold off said invasion, you aren't very creative. I'm sure the SK military has doctrines and battle plans for a variety of invasion scenarios (tunnels, airborne, nuclear attack, mine-clearing, etc. etc. etc.)

On March 08 2013 13:48 SirKibbleX wrote:
People always act like military combat still works in a 1:1 way like it did circa the 1800s. Let me tell you something: one sniper in a good position, or one good machine gun crew, can essentially kill INFINITE numbers of men if their military force-multipliers are effective enough. German air power was able to hold off superior Russian ground forces for a long while because they were able to achieve 100:1 kill-death ratios in air combat, because of their superior training, tactics, and equipment.

I suspect that if the North Koreans tried to invade SK on foot or in simple vehicles their losses would be utterly catastrophic.

If you don't understand how a defensive army with cutting-edge technology and thinking that has had 50+ years to prepare for a linear, one-dimensional invasion can hold off said invasion, you aren't very creative. I'm sure the SK military has doctrines and battle plans for a variety of invasion scenarios (tunnels, airborne, nuclear attack, mine-clearing, etc. etc. etc.)

On March 08 2013 13:51 SoleSteeler wrote:
Funny how South Koreans themselves never seem to worry about this kinda stuff. I've been here for more than 3 years (not that long, I know) and no one is ever phased when this stuff happens. It's on the news, but there's never any state of "panic" and people just don't really... react. That said, I wish there could be some peaceful resolution, and the threat of war is always a bit scary to think about as a foreigner here... It's easy for everyone to talk about "blowing Seoul to shit" but it's hard to read that when you... live in Seoul. >_<

On March 08 2013 13:33 Orek wrote:
The day N.K. fires a nuke or attacks Seoul is the day future history books will record as the last day of N.K. and its Kim dynasty. I doubt Kim Jong Un and other privileged military officials are stupid enough to make such a mistake which only hurts their "good" life in the north. While there is no 100% in international politics, or anything in life, North actually attacking South or U.S. is pretty much out of question. They are just negotiationg the price as any companies would do.

On March 08 2013 14:07 koreasilver wrote:
I mean obviously Seoul would get severely damaged in the case of an invasion, but it's so blatantly obvious that NK simply cannot win a war against SK for so many reasons. Sure they might take the capital temporarily but at the end of the war NK will be gone.