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FoxShine
Profile Joined January 2012
United States156 Posts
March 08 2013 08:18 GMT
#541
didn't notice this was the real thread from SC General: I will never understand why the South and the rest of the world put up with their shit.. I dno always threatening and breaking rules.. It seems really childish to threaten; especially the bit where they 'test' nuclear weapons against the US wishes. Why not just take their leadership out of power and slowly integrate it into the South? Is it really because of China and Russia? It's going to happen eventually.. after-all in a globalized world there is no room for Dictators... but would it be too difficult to reeducate the older generations??
We do what we must, because we can
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 08 2013 08:20 GMT
#542
Welcome to TL.net where political realism is "liberal" and ideological fearmongering is the less fantastical viewing lense.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 08 2013 08:22 GMT
#543
NK has a bottom line where they will incur catastrophic retaliation. before breaching that bottom line, it is their interest to show the rest of the world that:

1. they are insane
2. they do not care about sanctions

although they will not gain any material rewards for doing so, it does give them more power. kind of like a gangfight
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
March 08 2013 08:24 GMT
#544
On March 08 2013 17:18 FoxShine wrote:
didn't notice this was the real thread from SC General: I will never understand why the South and the rest of the world put up with their shit.. I dno always threatening and breaking rules.. It seems really childish to threaten; especially the bit where they 'test' nuclear weapons against the US wishes. Why not just take their leadership out of power and slowly integrate it into the South? Is it really because of China and Russia? It's going to happen eventually.. after-all in a globalized world there is no room for Dictators... but would it be too difficult to reeducate the older generations??

the south would never want north korea in its current shithole state. it would bankrupt them really hard.
Maruprime.
Plague1503
Profile Joined October 2010
Croatia466 Posts
March 08 2013 08:28 GMT
#545
On March 08 2013 15:59 peekn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 15:35 RedTerror wrote:
I don't know, maybe the US should back down it's sanctions.


I thought that it was UN dictated sanctions? Not just US.

You're being really cute if you think the UN has any authority over USA.
"Good luck." "I don't need luck. I have ammo."
SupplyBlockedTV
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Belgium313 Posts
March 08 2013 09:53 GMT
#546
Well..they just canceled their non-attack pact with south korea. I hope it keeps with just muscle flexing because if it comes to war it wont be like killing some mountain rebels in the middle east.
PEW PEW PEW
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
March 08 2013 09:57 GMT
#547
On March 08 2013 18:53 SupplyBlockedTV wrote:
Well..they just canceled their non-attack pact with south korea. I hope it keeps with just muscle flexing because if it comes to war it wont be like killing some mountain rebels in the middle east.

really? link?
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
March 08 2013 10:08 GMT
#548
On March 08 2013 18:57 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 18:53 SupplyBlockedTV wrote:
Well..they just canceled their non-attack pact with south korea. I hope it keeps with just muscle flexing because if it comes to war it wont be like killing some mountain rebels in the middle east.

really? link?

BBC, CNN, etc. Right on their frontpages.
valium
Profile Joined June 2012
United States251 Posts
March 08 2013 10:14 GMT
#549
North Korea's threat to hit Washington DC with a missile is technically impossible. Their current missile systems are not only inaccurate, but can only reach the west coast at best.
It is not easy being this awesome and modest
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2784 Posts
March 08 2013 10:15 GMT
#550
... War. Bloody war.
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Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 10:18:19
March 08 2013 10:16 GMT
#551
On March 08 2013 19:08 Mafe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 18:57 Assault_1 wrote:
On March 08 2013 18:53 SupplyBlockedTV wrote:
Well..they just canceled their non-attack pact with south korea. I hope it keeps with just muscle flexing because if it comes to war it wont be like killing some mountain rebels in the middle east.

really? link?

BBC, CNN, etc. Right on their frontpages.


Updated the OP with this new info and linked to the bbc article on it.

In the future, I'd invite anyone to pm me with noteworthy updates you think should be added to the OP.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
March 08 2013 10:18 GMT
#552
On March 08 2013 19:14 valium wrote:
North Korea's threat to hit Washington DC with a missile is technically impossible. Their current missile systems are not only inaccurate, but can only reach the west coast at best.

what about delivering it with a cargo ship or civilian plane?
valium
Profile Joined June 2012
United States251 Posts
March 08 2013 10:19 GMT
#553
On March 08 2013 19:18 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 19:14 valium wrote:
North Korea's threat to hit Washington DC with a missile is technically impossible. Their current missile systems are not only inaccurate, but can only reach the west coast at best.

what about delivering it with a cargo ship or civilian plane?

I am pretty sure I read somewhere that ALL NK cargo is being searched.
It is not easy being this awesome and modest
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
March 08 2013 10:49 GMT
#554
Does North Korea have an oil deposit?
If you are not supporting K-Pop you are hurting E-Sports.
Geneq
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland165 Posts
March 08 2013 10:59 GMT
#555
South Korea better build some defenses and invest in detection.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:18:54
March 08 2013 11:09 GMT
#556
Does anyone here actually believe NATO has the balls to ground invade NK?
If you think Irak/Afghanistan were hard to 'assimilate' North Korea is on a whole other level, as in never or it would take 40 years after occupation. Oh and by the way, after the first 50,000 NATO troops are dead the call from home to get the 'fuck out of there' means that the South would be abandoned... Just like what happened in Vietnam.
Does anyone here have any idea what 1,1 million troops (most of them fanatical) means? It means WW2 scale operations. Not fighting 20,000 taliban on goats. Perfect time for countries that don't like NATO (Iran/ex-Soviet block/China/South America) to make shit happen elsewhere, trust me, it should be you guys not wanting this war, not North Korea.
EDIT: grammer
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Windwaker
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany1597 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:20:21
March 08 2013 11:19 GMT
#557
On March 08 2013 20:09 Zeo wrote:
Does anyone here actually believe NATO has the balls to ground invade NK?
If you think Irak/Afghanistan were hard to 'assimilate' North Korea is on a whole other level, as in never or it would take 40 years after occupation. Oh and by the way, after the first 50,000 NATO troops are dead the call from home to get the 'fuck out of there' means that the South would be abandoned... Just like what happened in Vietnam.
Does anyone here have any idea what 1,1 million troops (most of them fanatical) means? It means WW2 scale operations. Perfect time for countries that don't like NATO (Iran/ex-Soviet block/China/South America) to make shit happen elsewhere, trust me, it should be you guys not wanting this war, not North Korea.
EDIT: grammer

the one who'd most likely start a war is south korea, if nk provoces them again.
UN and china have no interest in war
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:32:45
March 08 2013 11:29 GMT
#558
All NK needs is good anti-air and NATO is fucked, I read earlier in the thread something about the North invading and taking the South hostage, if they get into the cities its game over, what will NATO do? Bomb the southern cities?
Ground invasion means a lot of dead Americans and new episodes of MASH, nothing else.
EDIT: again, not talking about 20,000 taliban on goats, but 1,1 million serious troops who will have more than enough supplies just by raping/pillaging the southern countryside bare
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 11:46:38
March 08 2013 11:44 GMT
#559
On March 08 2013 20:29 Zeo wrote:
All NK needs is good anti-air and NATO is fucked, I read earlier in the thread something about the North invading and taking the South hostage, if they get into the cities its game over, what will NATO do? Bomb the southern cities?
Ground invasion means a lot of dead Americans and new episodes of MASH, nothing else.
EDIT: again, not talking about 20,000 taliban on goats, but 1,1 million serious troops who will have more than enough supplies just by raping/pillaging the southern countryside bare

That's the problem good anti-air costs ALOT of money, which NK has none of. SAM missiles are not going to shoot down stealth bombers, in fact the NK wont even know they are going to be bombed until it is happening.

You do realize that that NATO forces don't need to bomb the NK forces occupying the cities , they can just target their logistics/ammo/food/medical/communications and from there any occupying NK force loses their chain of command and supply.

NK won't be able to hold onto SK cities for longer than a few weeks, because as you have stated they are not the taliban, they are not being actively helped by the local populace.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
drkcid
Profile Joined October 2012
Spain196 Posts
March 08 2013 11:54 GMT
#560
On March 08 2013 20:44 DonKey_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 20:29 Zeo wrote:
All NK needs is good anti-air and NATO is fucked, I read earlier in the thread something about the North invading and taking the South hostage, if they get into the cities its game over, what will NATO do? Bomb the southern cities?
Ground invasion means a lot of dead Americans and new episodes of MASH, nothing else.
EDIT: again, not talking about 20,000 taliban on goats, but 1,1 million serious troops who will have more than enough supplies just by raping/pillaging the southern countryside bare

That's the problem good anti-air costs ALOT of money, which NK has none of. SAM missiles are not going to shoot down stealth bombers, in fact the NK wont even know they are going to be bombed until it is happening.

You do realize that that NATO forces don't need to bomb the NK forces occupying the cities , they can just target their logistics/ammo/food/medical/communications and from there any occupying NK force loses their chain of command and supply.

NK won't be able to hold onto SK cities for longer than a few weeks, because as you have stated they are not the taliban, they are not being actively helped by the local populace.


Also NATO doesnt have any problems bombing military units in cities, they have a lot of practice since early 90s.
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