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On April 13 2017 10:56 KwarK wrote:

China has always been against nuclear proliferation. They'd be perfectly happy with North Korea if they had military bases there and North Korean security was guaranteed by Chinese nukes in the event of a war. But they're not at all happy with the current situation. It's not about NK, they'd willingly defend NK with their own nuclear deterrent.

On April 13 2017 11:54 Essbee wrote:
Every day is quite stressful for me, I'm always thinking of going back to canada with my wife (who is korean) where we could be at ease but she says she can't abandon her family in case a war does break out, and I totally understand her, but at the same time my own family is worried sick... this fucking sucks, I really hope everything gets sorted out peacefully.

On April 13 2017 11:54 Essbee wrote:
Every day is quite stressful for me, I'm always thinking of going back to canada with my wife (who is korean) where we could be at ease but she says she can't abandon her family in case a war does break out, and I totally understand her, but at the same time my own family is worried sick... this fucking sucks, I really hope everything gets sorted out peacefully.

On April 13 2017 15:00 youngjiddle wrote:
Live every day like you will be fine the next, one day you will be gone anyways.

I hope you find comfort, in all honesty I think it might sound like things could get worse than they really could possibly get.

On April 13 2017 16:19 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Nobody i know seems at all concerned, just say this happens every year.

For whatever that's worth.

On April 13 2017 14:44 xM(Z wrote:
you and your theoretical theories.
what happened is that China refused NK coal at US request; to offset a potential upset mr.Kim, Trump sent a US battle-group in east china sea.
there are millions of tones of coal sitting in either NK ports or Chinese ports(waiting to be shipped back to NK) because Trump's friends needed to unload some coal.

On April 13 2017 17:58 DickMcFanny wrote:
Are you still living in SK, Jinro?

On April 14 2017 02:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Soooo it seems like a lot of fake news was spread around yesterday about NK in an attempt for what? I don't know.

HONG KONG • China is not obliged to help defend North Korea as the latter's development of nuclear weapons has breached a mutual defence pact, Chinese diplomatic and military observers told the South China Morning Post (SCMP).

China and North Korea signed a mutual aid and cooperation treaty in 1961 as they sought to mount a united front against Western powers. Renewed in 1981 and 2001, the treaty is valid until 2021.

The Sino-North Korean Mutual Aid and Cooperation Friendship Treaty stipulates that one country must immediately take military and all other necessary measures to oppose any country or coalition of countries that might attack either nation. But the treaty also says that both nations should safeguard peace and security.

Observers told the SCMP that North Korea's development of nuclear weapons in violation of the United Nations treaty on non-proliferation could amount to a breach of the pact. This means that Beijing is not obliged to help defend North Korea from a military attack, they told the paper.

"It is hard to say how China would assist North Korea militarily in case of war, since North Korea is developing nuclear weapons, an act that might have already breached the treaty between the two nations," said retired Chinese naval colonel Li Jie.


In the case of Pyongyang initiating an attack, China would not be obliged to get involved, said Professor Cai Jian of Fudan University.

Mr Antony Wong Dong, a Macau- based military analyst, said that when the treaty was last renewed, China warned North Korea that it must take responsibility for its own behaviour.

"There won't be a second Korean war," Mr Wong told the SCMP.

The Global Times, which is published by the Communist Party's People's Daily, said in an editorial that the best option for North Korea and its leader Kim Jong Un was for the country to give up its nuclear programme, and China would protect North Korea if it did, reported Reuters.

"As soon as North Korea complies with China's declared advice and suspends nuclear activities... China will actively work to protect the security of a denuclearised North Korean nation and regime," said the Global Times.

On April 14 2017 06:57 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
So the big thing wasn't a nuclear test but the opening of a new street with skyscrapers and shops by Glorious Leader

https://twitter.com/JeremyKohCNA/status/852390962445733888

https://twitter.com/JeremyKohCNA/status/852392897789837312

On April 13 2017 23:32 KwarK wrote:

The theories represent a working understanding of geopolitics. China want the same deal in NK as the US have in SK. The Korean proxy wants a nuclear deterrent because it's afraid of the big power (China for SK, US for NK), the nuclear powers don't want tiny nuclear states doing nuclear things, the logical conclusion is you just put a base there and say "if you attack them then you attack my base and I've got nukes so don't attack them". SK has gone for that deal, NK is insisting upon their own nuclear weapon and that is intolerable for any of the world powers. Nuclear non proliferation has been basically the only thing all world powers have agreed on in the last 50 years.

Mr Wang said: "Lately, tensions have risen between on the one hand the United States and the Republic of Korea (South Korea) and on the other, the DPRK (North Korea) and one has the feeling that a conflict could break out at any moment.

"I think that all relevant parties should be highly vigilant with regards to this situation.

"We call on all parties to refrain from provoking and threatening each other, whether in words or actions, and not let the situation get to an irreversible and unmanageable stage," Mr Wang said.

On April 14 2017 21:34 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
China asking all sides to calm down but fear a conflict is close.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39600426