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Time stamped VODs can be found at the following links:
http://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/165o4k/agdq_vods_with_timings_english_updated_frequently/
http://www.reddit.com/r/speedrun/comments/16gcrh/agdq_vods_english_and_french_part_2_thursday/
OliverDONG
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada151 Posts
January 12 2013 02:37 GMT
#2821
On January 12 2013 11:35 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 11:33 Animzor wrote:
Funny how everyone had a boner for Comso until they realised he isn't asian, but rather a basement dweller.

people thought he was asian? o.O


People who have never seen pictures of him or have not seen his MST run at AGDQ last year? Who knows...
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
January 12 2013 02:37 GMT
#2822
On January 12 2013 11:35 seRapH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 11:33 Animzor wrote:
Funny how everyone had a boner for Comso until they realised he isn't asian, but rather a basement dweller.

people thought he was asian? o.O

Nope, none thought he was asian. It's not like he wasn't at AGDQ last year and that he has pictures of himself on twitter...
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
January 12 2013 02:39 GMT
#2823
On January 12 2013 11:33 Animzor wrote:
Funny how everyone had a boner for Comso until they realised he isn't asian, but rather a basement dweller.

Who is this "everyone" that you speak of? Do you really just mean you?
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
OliverDONG
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada151 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 02:39:34
January 12 2013 02:39 GMT
#2824
On January 12 2013 11:37 Seronei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 11:35 seRapH wrote:
On January 12 2013 11:33 Animzor wrote:
Funny how everyone had a boner for Comso until they realised he isn't asian, but rather a basement dweller.

people thought he was asian? o.O

Nope, none thought he was asian. It's not like he wasn't at AGDQ last year and that he has pictures of himself on twitter...


Same thing with people not knowing what Sig looks like when there are couple pictures of him on twitter
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
January 12 2013 02:39 GMT
#2825
On January 12 2013 11:33 Animzor wrote:
Funny how everyone had a boner for Comso until they realised he isn't asian, but rather a basement dweller.


Maybe it's Siglemic ? The legend says it's an asian girl.
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
January 12 2013 02:40 GMT
#2826
He's even shown his face on his own stream plenty of times, lol. I have no idea what that guy is talking about. Maybe he meant sig? There is plenty of chatspams about him being an asian grill. I'm pretty sure no one actually thinks that's true either, but at least it has some basis?
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 02:52:53
January 12 2013 02:51 GMT
#2827
The thing about SDA that I can think of offhand that some runners may not like is that they have some restrictions in place that determine what is acceptable in a run, most of those rules are to avoid someone easily splicing video together and claiming it's a single segment attempt when it wasn't.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/lang/rules_en.html

I think part of it is that loading a save file isn't permitted in single segment (beat it in one sitting) "unless required to progress" which is pretty vague and I'll admit I don't know exactly how they interpret it, but I believe it disallows saving, resetting, and then loading the file (to try to make splicing harder). Unfortunately in a lot of games, doing exactly that can save time - especially if you can save in one spot but loading the file puts you somewhere else: a save warp.

A lot of runners have started doing "RTA" or Real Time Attack... which is basically a single segment that allows resetting or anything else to get the fastest time. A lot of runners stream on twitch as well nowadays (nobody streamed with SDA started, so often the only footage they had to go on in the early days for a game was the submission), which makes cheating easier to spot as well as making it obvious if they have the skill level to have done the submitted run. RTA also tracks the speed of the run in real time (never would've guessed, I know). Some games (depends on the community of that particular game in many cases) track records off of the ingame timer for some reason. The ingame timer is often paused at various times like in menus for a lot of games, so a faster ingame time could actually be much slower in real time.


Any further issues that people may have, I wouldn't know. I don't follow the verification portion of SDA too closely, and certainly not any drama. Above would be my best guess at the problem some people have with SDA. Uyama probably gets hate because he's been in a position to change some of the above. The Dictator title sounds like it was a result of him trying to maintain a certain level of quality and others disagreed. Anybody that sees him stream knows he's a pretty cool guy.

And yeah, as SDA is basically fans and volunteers, they can only verify something as fast as they have people willing to verify it. Obscure games can take forever as a result. Not like they're getting paid to put runs up, it's all a labor of love.
JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
January 12 2013 02:54 GMT
#2828
This is amazing. The Ocarina of Time run by Runnerguy is epic.
✉ Tweets @sc2channel ⌦ Blog: http://www.teamliquid.net/blog/JOJO ⌫ "Arbiterssss... build more arbiterssss." Click 'Profile' for awesome shiro art!
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
January 12 2013 02:57 GMT
#2829
Please guys could we keep this drama free and just enjoy this awesome run and awesome donations, there's enough drama everywhere already, no need to bring it up for a charity event.
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 03:06:20
January 12 2013 03:04 GMT
#2830
What does he need the rupees for right now?

He answered it. Deku stick upgrade for 40.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Garik16
Profile Joined January 2013
22 Posts
January 12 2013 03:10 GMT
#2831
On January 12 2013 11:51 Vortok wrote:
The thing about SDA that I can think of offhand that some runners may not like is that they have some restrictions in place that determine what is acceptable in a run, most of those rules are to avoid someone easily splicing video together and claiming it's a single segment attempt when it wasn't.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/lang/rules_en.html

I think part of it is that loading a save file isn't permitted in single segment (beat it in one sitting) "unless required to progress" which is pretty vague and I'll admit I don't know exactly how they interpret it, but I believe it disallows saving, resetting, and then loading the file (to try to make splicing harder). Unfortunately in a lot of games, doing exactly that can save time - especially if you can save in one spot but loading the file puts you somewhere else: a save warp.

A lot of runners have started doing "RTA" or Real Time Attack... which is basically a single segment that allows resetting or anything else to get the fastest time. A lot of runners stream on twitch as well nowadays (nobody streamed with SDA started, so often the only footage they had to go on in the early days for a game was the submission), which makes cheating easier to spot as well as making it obvious if they have the skill level to have done the submitted run. RTA also tracks the speed of the run in real time (never would've guessed, I know). Some games (depends on the community of that particular game in many cases) track records off of the ingame timer for some reason. The ingame timer is often paused at various times like in menus for a lot of games, so a faster ingame time could actually be much slower in real time.


Any further issues that people may have, I wouldn't know. I don't follow the verification portion of SDA too closely, and certainly not any drama. Above would be my best guess at the problem some people have with SDA. Uyama probably gets hate because he's been in a position to change some of the above. The Dictator title sounds like it was a result of him trying to maintain a certain level of quality and others disagreed. Anybody that sees him stream knows he's a pretty cool guy.

And yeah, as SDA is basically fans and volunteers, they can only verify something as fast as they have people willing to verify it. Obscure games can take forever as a result. Not like they're getting paid to put runs up, it's all a labor of love.


They've actually began to allow pure RTAs - you can now save and reset on any game if it has a purpose. But yeah you've got this pretty right.
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
January 12 2013 03:11 GMT
#2832
As it was stated before, Speed Running needs a wiki like Liquipedia. Finding times is sometimes impossible and it would probably actually get more people involved.
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 12 2013 03:12 GMT
#2833
Are they playing on Wii virtual console or on N64 and which controller is he using? His hands are just out of sight.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 12 2013 03:13 GMT
#2834
On January 12 2013 12:11 DreamScaR wrote:
As it was stated before, Speed Running needs a wiki like Liquipedia. Finding times is sometimes impossible and it would probably actually get more people involved.

If everything works out, sounds like the SRL leaderboard will serve that purpose.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Solarsail
Profile Joined July 2012
United Kingdom538 Posts
January 12 2013 03:14 GMT
#2835
Vortok, save warping is completely allowed on SDA.
Everyone left over is a member of the OP race and you have to figure out which one of them is the least OP. - CosmicSpiral
DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
January 12 2013 03:18 GMT
#2836
On January 12 2013 12:13 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 12:11 DreamScaR wrote:
As it was stated before, Speed Running needs a wiki like Liquipedia. Finding times is sometimes impossible and it would probably actually get more people involved.

If everything works out, sounds like the SRL leaderboard will serve that purpose.

I can't wait, I plan on getting a WR of both KH1 and KH2 once I get my dazzle.
~ Aka ItsWoodrow on Twitter
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 12 2013 03:21 GMT
#2837
Think I just heard a donation from "Dubzex" ? Not sure if I'm hearing right or not. =x
Liquipedia
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 03:22:06
January 12 2013 03:21 GMT
#2838
Nice, I just heard Dubzex in the donation reading

edit: yeah, blahz0r, I heard it.
Administrator
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 03:23:58
January 12 2013 03:23 GMT
#2839
I want to see him do his blind OoT run he has been practicing at the marathon, but it doesn't seem like he is going to do it... and they have so far read 3 of my 5 donations which I guess is a decent record considering how many they have received so far.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
January 12 2013 03:28 GMT
#2840
Everyone is being so mean to Mirrored :[

Come on guys, FrankerZ is overrated!
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