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On October 22 2012 07:12 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. I'm kind of at a lost for what exactly you are saying. Anyway I haven't really seen anyone with a decent argument against legalization in this thread. What I have seen in this thread though are a few people trying to further the cause of legalization through blatant misinformation, and that is why you are seeing a few people playing devils advocate. Legalization will not happen through making up bullshit about there being no harm to using marijuana. What will help our cause for legalization is looking at the scientific facts of the substance and better understanding where the risks come from. So instead of saying "lol u so stupid marijuana doesn't hurt your lungs". You could say "smoking anything will cause damage but through vaporization and edibles you can alleviate the damage and safely consume marijuana".
My bad mate, it was written abit fast, as i was watching SL3 finals. But i get your point, i shouldve written it in a mannered way.
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On October 22 2012 07:39 HackBenjamin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:29 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. You're so wrong it hurts. The American Psychiatric Association DMV4 manual specifically defines cannabis dependence. There ARE COUNTLESS documents which also claim the same. Hell in my personal experience as well as many other people I've had all kinds of symptoms linked to my cessation of very heavy use of cannabis. Just because your personal experience doesn't mimic reality proves nothing. I should have worded that better, fixed now. The symptoms you are referring to are what exactly?
It's kind of semantics to be honest, some will argue it isn't physical. Let me be clear also I'm not trying to say it's anywhere near the level of alcohol,opiates, or cocaine withdrawal because that would be stupid. The main symptoms that really bothered me and I would consider physical are the headaches, inability to sleep, and huge reduction in appetite. One could argue that most of this is mental but isn't. They are caused by chemical changes going on within your body as it adjusts.
And on the topic of mental addiction, it's obvious to anyone who takes a break after very heavy use.
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On October 22 2012 07:39 HackBenjamin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:29 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. You're so wrong it hurts. The American Psychiatric Association DMV4 manual specifically defines cannabis dependence. There ARE COUNTLESS documents which also claim the same. Hell in my personal experience as well as many other people I've had all kinds of symptoms linked to my cessation of very heavy use of cannabis. Just because your personal experience doesn't mimic reality proves nothing. I should have worded that better, fixed now. The symptoms you are referring to are what exactly? And I'm not really interested in what the American Psychiatric Association has to say. Anyone taking kickbacks and bribes from pharmaceutical companies doesn't rate very highly on my list of "Organizations to take seriously".
Youre not willing to accept what they say because they disagree with your opinion. Of course our discussion is basically over now that you have shown you don't want to discuss facts but rather opinions.
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On October 22 2012 07:44 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:39 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:29 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. You're so wrong it hurts. The American Psychiatric Association DMV4 manual specifically defines cannabis dependence. There ARE COUNTLESS documents which also claim the same. Hell in my personal experience as well as many other people I've had all kinds of symptoms linked to my cessation of very heavy use of cannabis. Just because your personal experience doesn't mimic reality proves nothing.
There is no physical dependencies, nor physical withdrawl symptoms
I should have worded that better, fixed now. The symptoms you are referring to are what exactly? It's kind of semantics to be honest, some will argue it isn't physical. Let me be clear also I'm not trying to say it's anywhere near the level of alcohol,opiates, or cocaine withdrawal because that would be stupid. The main symptoms that really bothered me and I would consider physical are the headaches, inability to sleep, and huge reduction in appetite. One could argue that most of this is mental but isn't. They are caused by chemical changes going on within your body as it adjusts. And on the topic of mental addiction, it's obvious to anyone who takes a break after very heavy use.
I'll concede to you that yes, there are changes that go on after quitting marijuana consumption. Severity and scope of these effects would obviously vary from person to person, but to insinuate that these are a result of "marijuana addiction" or "dependence" is frankly absurd to me.
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This has probably been asked before, but would anyone mind elaborating on the difference between legalized and decriminalized?
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On October 22 2012 07:47 heliusx wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:39 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:29 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. You're so wrong it hurts. The American Psychiatric Association DMV4 manual specifically defines cannabis dependence. There ARE COUNTLESS documents which also claim the same. Hell in my personal experience as well as many other people I've had all kinds of symptoms linked to my cessation of very heavy use of cannabis. Just because your personal experience doesn't mimic reality proves nothing.
There is no physical dependencies, nor physical withdrawl symptoms
I should have worded that better, fixed now. The symptoms you are referring to are what exactly? And I'm not really interested in what the American Psychiatric Association has to say. Anyone taking kickbacks and bribes from pharmaceutical companies doesn't rate very highly on my list of "Organizations to take seriously". Youre not willing to accept what they say because they disagree with your opinion. Of course our discussion is basically over now that you have shown you don't want to discuss facts but rather opinions.
You want to discuss facts?
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/12/washington/12psych.html?_r=2&pagewanted=all&
Do you honestly think that these non profit organizations claiming to be "independent in their viewpoints and actions" are getting approximately 30% of their financing from pharmaceutical companies as a charitable donation?
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On October 22 2012 07:41 r00ty wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:27 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:25 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. Keep toking on that joint for the rest of your life man. I will, and I do it by my personal choice, not because of any kind of dependency. I prefer the vaporizer, but I'm not really picky. I LOL'd. Thank you for the grin on my face. Keep running on that hamster wheel. Do you drink alcohol? You better don't or you are a hypocrite. There's more people around who smoke weed and lead a normal productive life than hopeless stoner kids you seem to have in mind, let me assure you. It's just they are not all in your face about it because of guess what!?
Haven't gotten drunk once in my lifetime....and
what am I suppose to guess about?
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On October 22 2012 07:59 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:41 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:27 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:25 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:
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Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors.
I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done.
You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. Keep toking on that joint for the rest of your life man. I will, and I do it by my personal choice, not because of any kind of dependency. I prefer the vaporizer, but I'm not really picky. I LOL'd. Thank you for the grin on my face. Keep running on that hamster wheel. Do you drink alcohol? You better don't or you are a hypocrite. There's more people around who smoke weed and lead a normal productive life than hopeless stoner kids you seem to have in mind, let me assure you. It's just they are not all in your face about it because of guess what!? Haven't gotten drunk once in my lifetime....and what am I suppose to guess about?
Could you please stop making shit posts for the sake of stirring the pot? Thanks.
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On October 22 2012 07:54 Retgery wrote:
This has probably been asked before, but would anyone mind elaborating on the difference between legalized and decriminalized?
Decriminalized: You still have to go to a dealer. You're just not prosecuted for consumption and possession.
Legalized: Being able to buy it in a shop/dispensary or grow it at home.
There's a huge difference! To put it simply: If you wanna fight organized crime and regulate it (keep it away from minors! dealers don't ask for id...) legalization is the only way.
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On October 22 2012 08:00 HackBenjamin wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:59 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:41 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:27 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:25 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:
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You "think".
No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. Keep toking on that joint for the rest of your life man. I will, and I do it by my personal choice, not because of any kind of dependency. I prefer the vaporizer, but I'm not really picky. I LOL'd. Thank you for the grin on my face. Keep running on that hamster wheel. Do you drink alcohol? You better don't or you are a hypocrite. There's more people around who smoke weed and lead a normal productive life than hopeless stoner kids you seem to have in mind, let me assure you. It's just they are not all in your face about it because of guess what!? Haven't gotten drunk once in my lifetime....and what am I suppose to guess about? Could you please stop making shit posts for the sake of stirring the pot? Thanks.
Talk about being a hypocrisy here. You are the one who is in this whole conspiracy that Big Pharma is bribing people to post up spurious results of their testing.
Marijuana does have a negative side effects, deal with them.
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My anecdote about withdrawals:
I've smoked almost every day for about 10 years, with a few breaks for a few days to a couple months here and there. I am about 4 months into a clean period. For about 48 hours after I stopped, I was antsy and talkative. Since then, I've noticed no difference in appetite, sleep patterns, or general mood. My memory is no better or worse. I live with my girlfriend and she notices no changes either.
Its different for everyone, I realize. Just sayin.
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On October 22 2012 07:59 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:41 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:27 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:25 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:
[quote]
Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors.
I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done.
You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. Keep toking on that joint for the rest of your life man. I will, and I do it by my personal choice, not because of any kind of dependency. I prefer the vaporizer, but I'm not really picky. I LOL'd. Thank you for the grin on my face. Keep running on that hamster wheel. Do you drink alcohol? You better don't or you are a hypocrite. There's more people around who smoke weed and lead a normal productive life than hopeless stoner kids you seem to have in mind, let me assure you. It's just they are not all in your face about it because of guess what!? Haven't gotten drunk once in my lifetime....and what am I suppose to guess about?
Because it's illegal and the law can destroy your life (criminal record, loss of drivers license) way more than the consumption.
Do you think alcohol should be prohibited?
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On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?.
No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it.
It's pretty easy to make the argument that junk food and obesity is a much more serious health concern than smoking/vaporizing/eating cannabis.
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On October 22 2012 08:13 r00ty wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:59 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:41 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:27 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:25 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?. No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:
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You "think".
No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. Keep toking on that joint for the rest of your life man. I will, and I do it by my personal choice, not because of any kind of dependency. I prefer the vaporizer, but I'm not really picky. I LOL'd. Thank you for the grin on my face. Keep running on that hamster wheel. Do you drink alcohol? You better don't or you are a hypocrite. There's more people around who smoke weed and lead a normal productive life than hopeless stoner kids you seem to have in mind, let me assure you. It's just they are not all in your face about it because of guess what!? Haven't gotten drunk once in my lifetime....and what am I suppose to guess about? Because it's illegal and the law can destroy your life (criminal record, loss of drivers license) way more than the consumption. Do you think alcohol should be prohibited?
Well because I don't drink alcohol, so yes it should be prohibited because it doesn't affect me.
But I do smoke at one time at regular daily intervals. And somewhat is active in that field. But even though I do, I still think that it should remain illegal.
On October 22 2012 08:14 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?.
No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. It's pretty easy to make the argument that junk food and obesity is a much more serious health concern than smoking/vaporizing/eating cannabis.
But on the basal level, weeds's effect is stronger than junk food in terms of altering one's mind/actions.
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On October 22 2012 08:26 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:13 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:59 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:41 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:27 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:25 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:
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No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed.
You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction.
Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life.
Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm.
But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place.
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So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours.
You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. Keep toking on that joint for the rest of your life man. I will, and I do it by my personal choice, not because of any kind of dependency. I prefer the vaporizer, but I'm not really picky. I LOL'd. Thank you for the grin on my face. Keep running on that hamster wheel. Do you drink alcohol? You better don't or you are a hypocrite. There's more people around who smoke weed and lead a normal productive life than hopeless stoner kids you seem to have in mind, let me assure you. It's just they are not all in your face about it because of guess what!? Haven't gotten drunk once in my lifetime....and what am I suppose to guess about? Because it's illegal and the law can destroy your life (criminal record, loss of drivers license) way more than the consumption. Do you think alcohol should be prohibited? Well because I don't drink alcohol, so yes it should be prohibited because it doesn't affect me. But I do smoke at one time at regular daily intervals. And somewhat is active in that field. But even though I do, I still think that it should remain illegal. Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:14 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?.
No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. It's pretty easy to make the argument that junk food and obesity is a much more serious health concern than smoking/vaporizing/eating cannabis. But on the basal level, weeds's effect is stronger than junk food in terms of altering one's mind/actions.
Is that a reason to be against it? I would be much more frightened of things that directly kill people.
Of course you are entitled to like or dislike whatever you want, but from a policy standpoint, the legal status of weed is just silly. Our society is full to the brim with products that alter the mind/body, and outright destroy your health and kill you. Pot is relatively benign.
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On October 22 2012 08:09 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
My anecdote about withdrawals:
I've smoked almost every day for about 10 years, with a few breaks for a few days to a couple months here and there. I am about 4 months into a clean period. For about 48 hours after I stopped, I was antsy and talkative. Since then, I've noticed no difference in appetite, sleep patterns, or general mood. My memory is no better or worse. I live with my girlfriend and she notices no changes either.
Its different for everyone, I realize. Just sayin.
Just for the record, same here. Smoked my first joint at 15, then basically nothing for 2 years. At some point became a hardcore smoker for 10+ years. Then basically quit instantly. Guess what, it was not the weed to blame for personal problems. Who would have thought!?
Of course i still got cravings. But they are on the level of a craving for real good bacon cheese burger or good sex. Don't want to make a comparison, but weed "addiction" is a joke.
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On October 22 2012 08:32 r00ty wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:09 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
My anecdote about withdrawals:
I've smoked almost every day for about 10 years, with a few breaks for a few days to a couple months here and there. I am about 4 months into a clean period. For about 48 hours after I stopped, I was antsy and talkative. Since then, I've noticed no difference in appetite, sleep patterns, or general mood. My memory is no better or worse. I live with my girlfriend and she notices no changes either.
Its different for everyone, I realize. Just sayin. Just for the record, same here. Smoked my first joint at 15, then basically nothing for 2 years. At some point became a hardcore smoker for 10+ years. Then basically quit instantly. Guess what, it was not the weed to blame for personal problems. Who would have thought!? Of course i still got cravings. But they are on the level of a craving for real good bacon cheese burger or good sex. Don't want to make a comparison, but weed "addiction" is a joke.
Dude, weed cravings << sex cravings.
A good burger? That sounds about right.
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On October 22 2012 08:31 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:26 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 08:13 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:59 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:41 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:27 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:25 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:
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Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. Keep toking on that joint for the rest of your life man. I will, and I do it by my personal choice, not because of any kind of dependency. I prefer the vaporizer, but I'm not really picky. I LOL'd. Thank you for the grin on my face. Keep running on that hamster wheel. Do you drink alcohol? You better don't or you are a hypocrite. There's more people around who smoke weed and lead a normal productive life than hopeless stoner kids you seem to have in mind, let me assure you. It's just they are not all in your face about it because of guess what!? Haven't gotten drunk once in my lifetime....and what am I suppose to guess about? Because it's illegal and the law can destroy your life (criminal record, loss of drivers license) way more than the consumption. Do you think alcohol should be prohibited? Well because I don't drink alcohol, so yes it should be prohibited because it doesn't affect me. But I do smoke at one time at regular daily intervals. And somewhat is active in that field. But even though I do, I still think that it should remain illegal. On October 22 2012 08:14 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?.
No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. It's pretty easy to make the argument that junk food and obesity is a much more serious health concern than smoking/vaporizing/eating cannabis. But on the basal level, weeds's effect is stronger than junk food in terms of altering one's mind/actions. Is that a reason to be against it? I would be much more frightened of things that directly kill people. Of course you are entitled to like or dislike whatever you want, but from a policy standpoint, the legal status of weed is just silly. Our society is full to the brim with products that alter the mind/body, and outright destroy your health and kill you. Pot is relatively benign.
I agree, I totally agree. But see it is the dangerous illegal mindset of me doing weed that prompted me in the first place. Weed have side effects, albeit smaller than other harder drugs but just enough to keep me honest. So w/o the thrill of doing something illegal, it takes the feel away from it and the next thing to do would be mushrooms but that's a whole different story.
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On October 22 2012 08:26 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:13 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:59 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:41 r00ty wrote:On October 22 2012 07:28 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:27 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:25 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:23 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:20 heliusx wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:
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No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed.
You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction.
Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life.
Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm.
But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place.
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So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours.
You should really move out of it. Honestly why bother lol. Anyone who considers marijuana addiction qualities to be equal to chocolate is clueless in the most literal sense of the word. I don't understand why on tlnet we can't ever discuss marijuana side effects without certain people getting strangely defensive. Because there is way too much misinformation being spewed. One piece of information that is irrefutable is that marijuana has ZERO addictive qualities. There is no physical dependencies, nor withdrawl symptoms. Keep toking on that joint for the rest of your life man. I will, and I do it by my personal choice, not because of any kind of dependency. I prefer the vaporizer, but I'm not really picky. I LOL'd. Thank you for the grin on my face. Keep running on that hamster wheel. Do you drink alcohol? You better don't or you are a hypocrite. There's more people around who smoke weed and lead a normal productive life than hopeless stoner kids you seem to have in mind, let me assure you. It's just they are not all in your face about it because of guess what!? Haven't gotten drunk once in my lifetime....and what am I suppose to guess about? Because it's illegal and the law can destroy your life (criminal record, loss of drivers license) way more than the consumption. Do you think alcohol should be prohibited? Well because I don't drink alcohol, so yes it should be prohibited because it doesn't affect me.
But I do smoke at one time at regular daily intervals. And somewhat is active in that field. But even though I do, I still think that it should remain illegal. Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 08:14 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 22 2012 07:17 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 07:01 FeelReD wrote:
People who throw out arguments like, ppl get fucked up lungs/ get addicted, / they get aggressive. please stfu and read up before u talk. its stupid to see.
in generel , you wont get more addicted to weed, than u do with chocolate. There isnt anything addictive to weed, like there is to cigs. , and you can consume weed in so many ways, you wont believe it.
and people overuse all sorts of stuff. alcohol, cigarettes, computer games ( ye. ive read lots of people who dies/get their kid killed cus of no intenstion to it, because of the parents gaming ) , hell. even candy? people get fat, isnt that their own problem?
should we also illegalise candy because people dont know how to control it?.
No because candy and chocolate are less mind altering than weed. You obviously have never had the courage to say "Okay I'm going to stop it forever." because you can't live with the thought of living life, Cannabis-less anymore. And that's addiction. Beside addiction means any other substance that isn't mandatory for one's survival. In that sense, we are all addicted to the internet because we don't really need to survive whereas a certain amount of food, sleep, water, O2 gases the basic necessity of life. Then there are different level of harm done by the addiction which the laws have settle a standard to its harm. But the primary reason why weed isn't legal is because of its smell. Tobacco's smell is way less pungent and scatters more quickly while Alcohol don't exhume scent in the first place. On October 22 2012 07:16 HackBenjamin wrote:On October 22 2012 07:00 Xiphos wrote:On October 22 2012 06:44 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Legalization would hurt the distributors and growers of marijuana, but it would also reduce crime. Legalization means to reduce the price from distributors. I think that in Canada, it is somewhat already legalized to a certain extend. You can carry like 3 bags of weed and the most the cops will do to you is to confiscate it and leave it with a warning afterward for smoking in public. But however if you have more than a specific size, charges will be done. You "think". No, it is not legalized in any way in Canada. Most people don't give a shit if you smoke it, but there are some that do, and if they report you, or you are caught by the police, you run the risk of charges. Consequences vary from cop to cop, speaking from (a lot of) personal experience. So I'm guessing that my neighborhood > yours. You should really move out of it. It's pretty easy to make the argument that junk food and obesity is a much more serious health concern than smoking/vaporizing/eating cannabis. But on the basal level, weeds's effect is stronger than junk food in terms of altering one's mind/actions.
I can't stop laughing. Please tell me this isn't your logic for why alcohol should be prohibited again. I'm going to be laughing all week.
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