EPTbeing high makes me so happy and kind!
edit: so ofc i want it legalized!
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
being high makes me so happy and kind! edit: so ofc i want it legalized! | ||
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yandere991
Australia394 Posts
On October 23 2012 01:30 Bolty wrote: They don't get rich because they realize that they have to step on their fellow men to do so. And what do you do? You hunt them, instead of helping them. Why? No profit in helping them. You are the invisible hand, as described by Adam Smith. It's your job to make sure the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor. And you don't even know it. Do yourself a favor, stop being a cop. Maybe there's still time for you to do some actual good in this world. Worth it. Wow...just wow. What makes people rich is a combination of/either inheritance, hard work, ambition, innovation and what makes people poor is a combination of/either illness, bad luck, born to dropkick parents, being a drop kick, low ambition, laziness etc. I don't see how the police fits at all in this equation. Anyways on topic: Legalize it! It was what kept me sane when I walked into a lecture in 3rd year statistics. | ||
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Bolty
Sweden33 Posts
On October 28 2012 18:23 yandere991 wrote: Wow...just wow. What makes people rich is a combination of/either inheritance, hard work, ambition, innovation and what makes people poor is a combination of/either illness, bad luck, born to dropkick parents, being a drop kick, low ambition, laziness etc. I don't see how the police fits at all in this equation. Anyways on topic: Legalize it! It was what kept me sane when I walked into a lecture in 3rd year statistics. The job of the police is to shepherd the population, to make sure they stay in line. Through this job they are effectively the first line of defense of the establishment. The establishment seeks to maintain the status quo. But it is a matter of perspective. If a starving man steals from a rich man, the police will arrest him. Is the starving man to blame for his behavior? Not if you ask me. He does what is necessary to survive. That is instinct, not free will. Society is to blame for creating absurd amounts of inequality and concepts like "private property". The problem is that they also do a damn good job of conditioning the population into supporting these ideas. If you ask most people today if they have any opinions on social construction and how things should be concerning things like private property for example, most people don't even know what you're talking about, they look at you with a face that says "... there are alternatives?" As you can see, your frame of reference is probably different from mine. In my opinion, our society and it's rules have failed horribly, and today it caters only to those in a position of relative advantage. Even though many of us see the backsides of capitalism and understand that it is doomed to fail, the people in power do a damn good job of marginalizing the alternatives. With words like "freedom". You think we are free? We are not free, far from it. But we are being constantly told that we are, it's probably one of the most common words in American media. They show you movies and pictures of concentration camps and starving children and say " These people live in a country without freedom! Look what happens!" which lets you say to yourself "At least my life isn't as bad as theirs. It could be worse." Capitalism = Freedom. That is basically how it is today. Any attempt to criticize capitalism means that you hate freedom. Let me share something with you. Freedom is just an empty word. Something politicians and capitalists use to line their pockets with gold. There is no such thing as free choice or free will in a society like ours. Every choice you make is heavily influenced by your environment. Parents, peers, the media, the government. These factors shape your decisions, not some misguided notion of "free will". Sorry for all the ranting  To go back OnT and, in my opinion, finish this silly discussion of whether a plant, a PLANT, should be illegal or not, there is but one thing to say;When Cannabis was made illegal there had been no medical research done on the subject. It was banned for other reasons. Are there any good reasons for banning a plant other than medical ones? You could think about it for a while, or you could listen to me when I tell you the answer is no. Even if everything was true about Cannabis and it was dangerous and banned on medical grounds, it's not a good reason. Man should not have such power over his fellow sojourners on this planet. | ||
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LucidityDark
United Kingdom139 Posts
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Caihead
Canada8550 Posts
I will freely admit that it's illegitimate to make opinion into law and that the government shouldn't take away a freedom and take responsibility for people's actions, Maybe there should be similar age or medical restrictions placed on marijuana as any other pharmaceutical / drug that's well documented that's enforced with criminal consequences, if that were the case it might be okay. | ||
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Rob28
Canada705 Posts
On October 28 2012 22:44 Bolty wrote: The job of the police is to shepherd the population, to make sure they stay in line. Through this job they are effectively the first line of defense of the establishment. The establishment seeks to maintain the status quo. But it is a matter of perspective. If a starving man steals from a rich man, the police will arrest him. Is the starving man to blame for his behavior? Not if you ask me. He does what is necessary to survive. That is instinct, not free will. Society is to blame for creating absurd amounts of inequality and concepts like "private property". The problem is that they also do a damn good job of conditioning the population into supporting these ideas. If you ask most people today if they have any opinions on social construction and how things should be concerning things like private property for example, most people don't even know what you're talking about, they look at you with a face that says "... there are alternatives?" As you can see, your frame of reference is probably different from mine. In my opinion, our society and it's rules have failed horribly, and today it caters only to those in a position of relative advantage. Even though many of us see the backsides of capitalism and understand that it is doomed to fail, the people in power do a damn good job of marginalizing the alternatives. With words like "freedom". You think we are free? We are not free, far from it. But we are being constantly told that we are, it's probably one of the most common words in American media. They show you movies and pictures of concentration camps and starving children and say " These people live in a country without freedom! Look what happens!" which lets you say to yourself "At least my life isn't as bad as theirs. It could be worse." Capitalism = Freedom. That is basically how it is today. Any attempt to criticize capitalism means that you hate freedom. Let me share something with you. Freedom is just an empty word. Something politicians and capitalists use to line their pockets with gold. There is no such thing as free choice or free will in a society like ours. Every choice you make is heavily influenced by your environment. Parents, peers, the media, the government. These factors shape your decisions, not some misguided notion of "free will". Absolute freedom cannot exist. Animals have absolute freedom, and even they are not free to wander their world without fear of being savagely murdered by any one of a million deadly things out there. To say a population has freedom is a flasehood, but not a malicious one the way you are making it out to be. It is only referred to as such because it just happens to be the best moniker for the situation. Maybe "freedom" isn't the right word... "liberties" probably suits better. But if you compare the liberties of the western world vs. liberties of second or third world countires, you can see the contrast very easily. We can complain that America has a two party electoral system, but if you view that against a facist dictatorship, which group of people is more towards the "free" end of the spectrum? It's all in context (or frame of reference as you put it). Society and its rules haven't failed horribly. If it had failed horribly, you even wouldn't be able to walk outside; it'd be complete anarchy. "Hey, your wife is hot... I'm going to fuck her right in front of you".... THAT'S society after it has failed. "There's a ten foot pile of garbage on my lawn, and somebody just stabbed me"... THAT'S society after it has failed. "You can't smoke that, it's against the law"... that's NOT society failing, that's society controlling something it shouldn't... that's misaligned priorities. The system is in place because it's the best system for our world right now. It's not perfect. It will never be perfect. But it allows people who live within it to actually hold onto some semblance of freedom and lifestyle... that's the job of the system. Not to keep people down and other people up, but to make it so that everyone can function together without murdering each other. Think about it: why does government exist? Because there are too many people for government not to exist. FYI, advocate for legalization here. I'm not saying this as part of a "regulate it" argument. Just devil's advocate. | ||
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MagmaPunch
Bulgaria536 Posts
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ButtCraft
United States114 Posts
You could argue that alcohol does the same thing, but really... how hard is it to go to work stoned? Nobody would really know if you were stoned all the time because that's just who you are to them. It'd be pretty obvious if you were to go into work drunk all the time. It's just easier to be high, it doesn't have debilitating physical effects. Psychologically though (in my experience) marijuana induces apathy, changes how you perceive others and the world around you, and in general you just aren't as sharp as you would normally be. | ||
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