Retired cop shoots son, mistook him as burglar - Page 14

On October 14 2012 01:08 Zenbrez wrote:
Despite what most Americans seem to think.. you don't need guns in your homes.

On October 14 2012 01:08 Zenbrez wrote:
Despite what most Americans seem to think.. you don't need guns in your homes.

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Also, couldn't this cop go to jail? Far as I'm concerned his reaction was excessive, which is a big no-no. Unless that's just in Canada?

On October 14 2012 01:28 heliusx wrote:


Despite you thinking you know what's best for all americans you don't.

On October 14 2012 01:28 Zenbrez wrote:

And you do?

On October 14 2012 01:40 Focuspants wrote:
I think a major problem is that the cops in the US seem to be trained to pull their firearms rather quickly and think after. I am from Toronto and I went to the Bills Pats game a couple weeks ago. As we were pulling into the parking lot at the Ralph, a female cop who was directing traffic was waving my friend who was driving through the intersection. We slowly made our way through at her command, but as we approach her, she reaches for her gun and takes it out at us for no reason. My only guess was she was taking it out incase we got too close and she thought shed get hit or something? I have no idea, but we were literally going like 5km/hour in a crowded intersection at her becon, and she pulled a gun on us. We all just froze up and yelled "what the fuckkkkkkkkkk".

If you pull your gun on instinct for every little thing, shit like this is bound to happen. I dont personally believe citizens should be allowed to possess firearms, but that isnt even what I am going to argue for. I realize that isnt so much of a possibility in the US, I just think training to think first and shoot after is needed, because apparently even your cops are trained to pull a firearm on a vehicle crawling through an intersection in their general direction, that they are telling to do so. This incident had to be reactionary, and was likely due to his training to act in this fashion.

On October 14 2012 01:41 heliusx wrote:


She pulled it out and pointed it at you or just pulled it out? Regardless that's pretty careless. I've never seen a cop draw his weapon before.

On October 14 2012 01:42 Focuspants wrote:

She pulled it out and had it pointed down near the hood of my friends car. It was in her hand, out of her holster though, and ready to fire. It freaked the everliving shit out of us.

On October 14 2012 01:44 heliusx wrote:


That's pretty weird and I would have reported her. I'm not a cop and i don't know their procedures but I've lived here for 14 years and never seen a gun pulled even in traffic stops.

On October 14 2012 01:45 Mataza wrote:
I am just happy I don´t live in America.
In my country, when there is a burglar, I am afraid he has a knife. Then I go to my kitchen and get a knife myself.
Not to say I can´t respect alternative approaches to overpopulation, but I don´t think people killing each other(by accident or not) is the intent behind widespread gun possession.

On October 14 2012 01:48 heliusx wrote:


But how do we get rid of the guns in criminal hands? You've got to realize here in america guns aren't registered in most states because they don't have to be. They can be sold privately with no documentation therefore the government has not a clue who has what guns. Plenty of criminals get guns through straw purchases. And if the gun is recovered in a crime the guy who bought it pretty much only has to say he sold it. There are likely around 350 million known guns in the us.

On October 14 2012 01:53 Dfgj wrote:

There's no 'we ban guns, then they're gone!' solution. It'd have to be a long term process of making them less available and removing them from circulation.

On October 14 2012 01:56 heliusx wrote:


And for the next 50+ years criminals have free reign because they know law abiding citizens have no weapons? That's like telling the USA to remove all their nukes because nukes are wrong. Meanwhile the other states like NK and Iran keep theirs because they don't follow the rules. It's pretty much the reality of the situation that leads me to believe it's not feasible to remove guns from america even if the populace wanted to (they don't).

On October 14 2012 02:31 Dfgj wrote:

Do you really picture the US as some unpoliced war-zone where the only thing holding back the hordes of criminals is that civilians have easy access to lethal force?

There's a bigger problem in that situation.

On October 14 2012 02:38 heliusx wrote:
I can only guess you've never been to the states. And if you have you must live in a really nice place. Because where I'm at atm home invasions are really common and even more common is the police taking 30+ minutes to arrive. Of course we can always pretend that the police can instantly teleport and save you but obviously that's not the case.