People (men) wishing to see what evolution tells them they want to see T_T
Cry me a river. Neat Idea, won't watch, but I definitely find all the people yammering on about feminism and sexism to be irritating. God forbid women cash in on what God gave 'em. Is it sexist that Men's sport leagues outdo women's? No, it's because men are physically superior to women (in general) and when you watch someone compete you want to watch that competition at its most physically challenging level.
They're not hurting anyone, they're not affecting the feminist movement, they do not represent females as a whole and it seems highly unreasonable to assert otherwise. It's contained to the individuals playing the game (which they do so willingly).
On September 28 2012 13:18 Al Bundy wrote: Well... That says a lot about society. Nowadays people are willing to do anything for money, and that is another example of this. So let me ask you: how's it going to end?
Anyway I don't really understand the point of that. If I want to watch basketball, I watch basketball. And if I want to watch boobs, guess what? This is the freaking internet.
Nowadays?
I'm sorry, but when were people not willing to do anything for money?
League itself is a pretty meh idea. I doubt it will gain too much traction.
Come on this matter is more important than semantics, I'm sure you understand what I meant.
what did you mean?
You know what? I'm no longer going to post in the general section. Too much bullshit in here. I'm just going to sit back, relax, and watch us devolve into monkeys.
Well, thank you for your contribution. Though, I'm still confused about what you meant.
On September 28 2012 14:05 imJealous wrote: I just feel bad for the women who actually pour their heart and sole into WNBA if they get sidelined for this
Imagine a comparison to our eSports... Here we are hoping and dreaming of esports becoming an accepted part of modern culture and we're finally seeing what we consider progress even though the main stream media has hardly taken note. Then imagine if some execs at MTV heard about it, looked into it, decided they thought it was stupid but they could make some quick cash out of it by doing a short series drawing attention to it. But what they create is a reality tv show where they get a bunch of booth babe models to play sc2, CS, etc and 90% of the show is about showing off how hot the chicks are and since they aren't actually pro players no one new who looks at the show actually thinks the games were actually anything serious.
Would certainly get more views/advertiser interest/attention than televising a tournament or a documentary about a guy like Naniwa or Huk moving to Korea and all the trials and tribulations they go through trying to make it in the GSL.
Anyone can start a league and get it telecast with a broadcaster.
This is another competitor to WNBA, chill man. Face it, women are vain. They are not going to switch from watching Desperate Housewives to WNBA especially if they look like dykes with long hair. Just look at women's MMA.
On September 28 2012 14:24 Phenny wrote: Why do so many people hate freedom?
They're not hurting anyone, they're not affecting the feminist movement, they do not represent females as a whole and it seems highly unreasonable to assert otherwise. It's contained to the individuals playing the game (which they do so willingly).
I'm no feminist firebrand but representing women as something solely to be ogled at can isn't necessarily harmless. Yeah this league isn't a big deal in and of itself, nobody would claim otherwise, it's just a bit depressing for those of us who think we're capable of a bit better these days.
They're up against a wall trying to get people to watch WNBA as it is. If you don't already watch it or think about watching it, you aren't going to be persuaded to do it.
This approach might work. If they get some good airing times and a level of the competitive spirit, I see this working. Say what you want about this as a reflection of current culture. It's reflected in every part of media already. I'm sure beach volleyball gets just as many viewers looking for the strength of the serves, returns, and spikes as for the player's bodies.
On September 28 2012 14:24 Phenny wrote: Why do so many people hate freedom?
They're not hurting anyone, they're not affecting the feminist movement, they do not represent females as a whole and it seems highly unreasonable to assert otherwise. It's contained to the individuals playing the game (which they do so willingly).
I'm no feminist firebrand but representing women as something solely to be ogled at can isn't necessarily harmless. Yeah this league isn't a big deal in and of itself, nobody would claim otherwise, it's just a bit depressing for those of us who think we're capable of a bit better these days.
Oh heavens, are you breaking the silence of political correctness? Are you actually hinting at the treatment of women as sex objects? Somebody call the internet police...
On September 28 2012 11:56 Fenrax wrote: Pure sexism. If you want to watch naked women, why not porn?
It's rare to find a really hot porn star.
While this league may find a lot of viewers simply because the girls are scantily clad, I don't see how it can be taken seriously as a measure of skill.
On September 28 2012 12:14 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:09 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:04 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Wait... so this isn't a sham league run by Hugh Hefner? Because I seriously thought it was. Sometimes gimmicks like that actually happen. What doesn't happen sometimes is a "competitive" league that decides it wants the main allure of it's mainstream sport to be boobs. Oh well. Minus 5 points for the human race.
Rule #2 learned growing up: unless you want to get your ass beat, never judge how another man (or woman) makes their living
What was number one?
#1 Never take offense to what people say, unless it's about your reputation #2 Never take offense to what people do for a living, unless it hurts your interests #3 Never take offense to how someone treats their significant other, unless he/she is your relative #4 Only get upset when things hurt you... that's how you won't end up getting unnecessarily tied up
those were four words of advice from a childhood friend that ended up becoming a gang member... a lot more honest than any advice i've gotten from anyone else. they've served me pretty well in life.
Worst words of advice I've ever heard in my life.
I have to agree. If you wish to take the road of passivity, mixed with selfishness, then do this; however I have to agree that it's some of the worst advice I have heard in my life (And it's so bad because it's almost seems like good advice at first).
As for Bikini Basketball . . . they really didn't have to call it that. It's shallow, effect, yet idiotic marketing. I really like watching Olympic volleyball but I refer watching the woman's because - "let's face it" - they all have a pretty good ass. But if you turned it into Bikini Volleyball then I would never watch it, even though the only thing that changes is the name. I don't go to the Bikini Coffee Shop in town because of the stigma of being seen there and I don't want to support a set of woman who try to make money off of their sexuality. I don't tip waitresses that flirt either. But Olympic volleyball is ever so slightly different because the sexuality isn't the focus and the athletes who are playing are athletes first and not something sexual. the reason why this marketing ploy is so dumb is because it focuses so heavily on the sexuality while falling short of actually delivering. If I want something sexy I can look up some pictures online.
On September 28 2012 11:56 Fenrax wrote: Pure sexism. If you want to watch naked women, why not porn?
It's rare to find a really hot porn star.
While this league may find a lot of viewers simply because the girls are scantily clad, I don't see how it can be taken seriously as a measure of skill.
On September 28 2012 12:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:14 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:09 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:04 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Wait... so this isn't a sham league run by Hugh Hefner? Because I seriously thought it was. Sometimes gimmicks like that actually happen. What doesn't happen sometimes is a "competitive" league that decides it wants the main allure of it's mainstream sport to be boobs. Oh well. Minus 5 points for the human race.
Rule #2 learned growing up: unless you want to get your ass beat, never judge how another man (or woman) makes their living
What was number one?
#1 Never take offense to what people say, unless it's about your reputation #2 Never take offense to what people do for a living, unless it hurts your interests #3 Never take offense to how someone treats their significant other, unless he/she is your relative #4 Only get upset when things hurt you... that's how you won't end up getting unnecessarily tied up
those were four words of advice from a childhood friend that ended up becoming a gang member... a lot more honest than any advice i've gotten from anyone else. they've served me pretty well in life.
Worst words of advice I've ever heard in my life.
I have to agree. If you wish to take the road of passivity, mixed with selfishness, then do this; however I have to agree that it's some of the worst advice I have heard in my life (And it's so bad because it's almost seems like good advice at first).
As for Bikini Basketball . . . they really didn't have to call it that. It's shallow, effect, yet idiotic marketing. I really like watching Olympic volleyball but I refer watching the woman's because - "let's face it" - they all have a pretty good ass. But if you turned it into Bikini Volleyball then I would never watch it, even though the only thing that changes is the name. I don't go to the Bikini Coffee Shop in town because of the stigma of being seen there and I don't want to support a set of woman who try to make money off of their sexuality. I don't tip waitresses that flirt either. But Olympic volleyball is ever so slightly different because the sexuality isn't the focus and the athletes who are playing are athletes first and not something sexual. the reason why this marketing ploy is so dumb is because it focuses so heavily on the sexuality while falling short of actually delivering. If I want something sexy I can look up some pictures online.
Was reading along, thinking this was all a reasonable opinion to have, then I read that you don't tip people if they flirt with you. I always tip 15% unless the food was atrocious or the service was almost never there, and then I tip 5-10%. They still have to make a living.
On September 28 2012 11:56 Fenrax wrote: Pure sexism. If you want to watch naked women, why not porn?
It's rare to find a really hot porn star.
While this league may find a lot of viewers simply because the girls are scantily clad, I don't see how it can be taken seriously as a measure of skill.
On September 28 2012 12:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:14 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:09 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:04 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Wait... so this isn't a sham league run by Hugh Hefner? Because I seriously thought it was. Sometimes gimmicks like that actually happen. What doesn't happen sometimes is a "competitive" league that decides it wants the main allure of it's mainstream sport to be boobs. Oh well. Minus 5 points for the human race.
Rule #2 learned growing up: unless you want to get your ass beat, never judge how another man (or woman) makes their living
What was number one?
#1 Never take offense to what people say, unless it's about your reputation #2 Never take offense to what people do for a living, unless it hurts your interests #3 Never take offense to how someone treats their significant other, unless he/she is your relative #4 Only get upset when things hurt you... that's how you won't end up getting unnecessarily tied up
those were four words of advice from a childhood friend that ended up becoming a gang member... a lot more honest than any advice i've gotten from anyone else. they've served me pretty well in life.
Worst words of advice I've ever heard in my life.
I have to agree. If you wish to take the road of passivity, mixed with selfishness, then do this; however I have to agree that it's some of the worst advice I have heard in my life (And it's so bad because it's almost seems like good advice at first).
As for Bikini Basketball . . . they really didn't have to call it that. It's shallow, effect, yet idiotic marketing. I really like watching Olympic volleyball but I refer watching the woman's because - "let's face it" - they all have a pretty good ass. But if you turned it into Bikini Volleyball then I would never watch it, even though the only thing that changes is the name. I don't go to the Bikini Coffee Shop in town because of the stigma of being seen there and I don't want to support a set of woman who try to make money off of their sexuality. I don't tip waitresses that flirt either. But Olympic volleyball is ever so slightly different because the sexuality isn't the focus and the athletes who are playing are athletes first and not something sexual. the reason why this marketing ploy is so dumb is because it focuses so heavily on the sexuality while falling short of actually delivering. If I want something sexy I can look up some pictures online.
What the hell? That advice is good because it it's pretty damn accurate.
1. Taking offense to what people say if it's not about your reputation just causes a shit storm. It causes unnecessary aggravation, flaming (especially on the internet) relationship damage, and all other shit. You make a fool of yourself sometimes, for no fucking reason. And there are more people who will say offensive things. What are you going to do, silence all the fucking haters? And the internet is a different ballgame - even worse. Professionals (say, Day9!) don't ever ever EVER reply to all the shit that flies around the web - they disconnect themselves completely. That shit just isn't fucking worth it.
2. What the fuck are YOU going to do about what other people do for a living? Damn man (liberals especially should agree with this). You just let them do what they want - unless that impedes the lives of others - or your interests. That might sound selfish, but it's really not. He's not saying to cut out all the competition - though his gang member friend probably was.
3. What the fuck are you going to do about how other people are treated - based only on your limited perception of their situations? That's a good way to get fucking rejected. Never EVER step in on someone else's problems - but you can be there if they need you. Don't be fucking nosy.
4. If you get upset at every single fucking thing...man...what are you some high-school girl (metaphorical "you")? Unless something or someone severely injures you mentally or physically - impedes your success or is deliberately bogging down your life in any way shape or form, who gives a fuck. Let it all go.
Paraphrased.... 1. Don't give a shit about what people say unless it affects you personally. As in, heart wrenching. 2. Don't give a fuck about what other people do - let them live their lives. 3. Don't get involved in other people's personal issues. You aren't wanted there - and you (in most cases) don't want to go there. 4. Don't be a fucking pussy and be offended by everything. You'll just get bogged down mentally.
No where in that text do I infer "passivity." Nowhere do I infer "selfishness."
Good advice!
--- I feel like if we're going to do bikini basketball we might as well just go all the fucking way.
On September 28 2012 11:56 Fenrax wrote: Pure sexism. If you want to watch naked women, why not porn?
It's rare to find a really hot porn star.
While this league may find a lot of viewers simply because the girls are scantily clad, I don't see how it can be taken seriously as a measure of skill.
On September 28 2012 12:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:14 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:09 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:04 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Wait... so this isn't a sham league run by Hugh Hefner? Because I seriously thought it was. Sometimes gimmicks like that actually happen. What doesn't happen sometimes is a "competitive" league that decides it wants the main allure of it's mainstream sport to be boobs. Oh well. Minus 5 points for the human race.
Rule #2 learned growing up: unless you want to get your ass beat, never judge how another man (or woman) makes their living
What was number one?
#1 Never take offense to what people say, unless it's about your reputation #2 Never take offense to what people do for a living, unless it hurts your interests #3 Never take offense to how someone treats their significant other, unless he/she is your relative #4 Only get upset when things hurt you... that's how you won't end up getting unnecessarily tied up
those were four words of advice from a childhood friend that ended up becoming a gang member... a lot more honest than any advice i've gotten from anyone else. they've served me pretty well in life.
Worst words of advice I've ever heard in my life.
I have to agree. If you wish to take the road of passivity, mixed with selfishness, then do this; however I have to agree that it's some of the worst advice I have heard in my life (And it's so bad because it's almost seems like good advice at first).
As for Bikini Basketball . . . they really didn't have to call it that. It's shallow, effect, yet idiotic marketing. I really like watching Olympic volleyball but I refer watching the woman's because - "let's face it" - they all have a pretty good ass. But if you turned it into Bikini Volleyball then I would never watch it, even though the only thing that changes is the name. I don't go to the Bikini Coffee Shop in town because of the stigma of being seen there and I don't want to support a set of woman who try to make money off of their sexuality. I don't tip waitresses that flirt either. But Olympic volleyball is ever so slightly different because the sexuality isn't the focus and the athletes who are playing are athletes first and not something sexual. the reason why this marketing ploy is so dumb is because it focuses so heavily on the sexuality while falling short of actually delivering. If I want something sexy I can look up some pictures online.
What the hell? That advice is good because it it's pretty damn accurate.
1. Taking offense to what people say if it's not about your reputation just causes a shit storm. It causes unnecessary aggravation, flaming (especially on the internet) relationship damage, and all other shit. You make a fool of yourself sometimes, for no fucking reason. And there are more people who will say offensive things. What are you going to do, silence all the fucking haters? And the internet is a different ballgame - even worse. Professionals (say, Day9!) don't ever ever EVER reply to all the shit that flies around the web - they disconnect themselves completely. That shit just isn't fucking worth it.
2. What the fuck are YOU going to do about what other people do for a living? Damn man (liberals especially should agree with this). You just let them do what they want - unless that impedes the lives of others - or your interests. That might sound selfish, but it's really not. He's not saying to cut out all the competition - though his gang member friend probably was.
3. What the fuck are you going to do about how other people are treated - based only on your limited perception of their situations? That's a good way to get fucking rejected. Never EVER step in on someone else's problems - but you can be there if they need you. Don't be fucking nosy.
4. If you get upset at every single fucking thing...man...what are you some high-school girl (metaphorical "you")? Unless something or someone severely injures you mentally or physically - impedes your success or is deliberately bogging down your life in any way shape or form, who gives a fuck. Let it all go.
Paraphrased.... 1. Don't give a shit about what people say unless it affects you personally. As in, heart wrenching. 2. Don't give a fuck about what other people do - let them live their lives. 3. Don't get involved in other people's personal issues. You aren't wanted there - and you (in most cases) don't want to go there. 4. Don't be a fucking pussy and be offended by everything. You'll just get bogged down mentally.
No where in that text do I infer "passivity." Nowhere do I infer "selfishness."
Good advice!
--- I feel like if we're going to do bikini basketball we might as well just go all the fucking way.
It's not the "Never take offense" part that is bad, it's the "unless" part that is bad, because it shows nothing but selfishness of a person.
#1 For example, if someone talks bad about your family, or even someone talks shit about some random races/gender/a handicapped homeless person on the street, you don't feel bad/feel angry?
#2 Not all kind of money making is good, there're people dealing drugs, cheating the systems, preying on people. You might not have anything to do with it, nor it affects you, but it's stupid when someone says "I deal drugs for underage for a living", and you say "Ok cool."
#3 If this is a good advice, we might as well as get rid of domestic violence and stuff. It's bad that people treat people badly, people treating their significant other badly is even worse. If you don't take offense a human being beating/talking down another person, then w/e
#4 This is meh, no comment. It's just a repeat of every other things, and other old sayings, although nowaday it's hard to judge what hurts you and whatnot.
Your paraphrase is not the same as the original meaning...
Take offense is one thing, and show action is another thing. You don't need to show in action that you don't like it. If you don't even take offense when the community/family around you, you still are nothing a bad seed.
On September 28 2012 11:56 Fenrax wrote: Pure sexism. If you want to watch naked women, why not porn?
It's rare to find a really hot porn star.
While this league may find a lot of viewers simply because the girls are scantily clad, I don't see how it can be taken seriously as a measure of skill.
On September 28 2012 12:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:14 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:09 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:04 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Wait... so this isn't a sham league run by Hugh Hefner? Because I seriously thought it was. Sometimes gimmicks like that actually happen. What doesn't happen sometimes is a "competitive" league that decides it wants the main allure of it's mainstream sport to be boobs. Oh well. Minus 5 points for the human race.
Rule #2 learned growing up: unless you want to get your ass beat, never judge how another man (or woman) makes their living
What was number one?
#1 Never take offense to what people say, unless it's about your reputation #2 Never take offense to what people do for a living, unless it hurts your interests #3 Never take offense to how someone treats their significant other, unless he/she is your relative #4 Only get upset when things hurt you... that's how you won't end up getting unnecessarily tied up
those were four words of advice from a childhood friend that ended up becoming a gang member... a lot more honest than any advice i've gotten from anyone else. they've served me pretty well in life.
Worst words of advice I've ever heard in my life.
I have to agree. If you wish to take the road of passivity, mixed with selfishness, then do this; however I have to agree that it's some of the worst advice I have heard in my life (And it's so bad because it's almost seems like good advice at first).
As for Bikini Basketball . . . they really didn't have to call it that. It's shallow, effect, yet idiotic marketing. I really like watching Olympic volleyball but I refer watching the woman's because - "let's face it" - they all have a pretty good ass. But if you turned it into Bikini Volleyball then I would never watch it, even though the only thing that changes is the name. I don't go to the Bikini Coffee Shop in town because of the stigma of being seen there and I don't want to support a set of woman who try to make money off of their sexuality. I don't tip waitresses that flirt either. But Olympic volleyball is ever so slightly different because the sexuality isn't the focus and the athletes who are playing are athletes first and not something sexual. the reason why this marketing ploy is so dumb is because it focuses so heavily on the sexuality while falling short of actually delivering. If I want something sexy I can look up some pictures online.
What the hell? That advice is good because it it's pretty damn accurate.
1. Taking offense to what people say if it's not about your reputation just causes a shit storm. It causes unnecessary aggravation, flaming (especially on the internet) relationship damage, and all other shit. You make a fool of yourself sometimes, for no fucking reason. And there are more people who will say offensive things. What are you going to do, silence all the fucking haters? And the internet is a different ballgame - even worse. Professionals (say, Day9!) don't ever ever EVER reply to all the shit that flies around the web - they disconnect themselves completely. That shit just isn't fucking worth it.
2. What the fuck are YOU going to do about what other people do for a living? Damn man (liberals especially should agree with this). You just let them do what they want - unless that impedes the lives of others - or your interests. That might sound selfish, but it's really not. He's not saying to cut out all the competition - though his gang member friend probably was.
3. What the fuck are you going to do about how other people are treated - based only on your limited perception of their situations? That's a good way to get fucking rejected. Never EVER step in on someone else's problems - but you can be there if they need you. Don't be fucking nosy.
4. If you get upset at every single fucking thing...man...what are you some high-school girl (metaphorical "you")? Unless something or someone severely injures you mentally or physically - impedes your success or is deliberately bogging down your life in any way shape or form, who gives a fuck. Let it all go.
Paraphrased.... 1. Don't give a shit about what people say unless it affects you personally. As in, heart wrenching. 2. Don't give a fuck about what other people do - let them live their lives. 3. Don't get involved in other people's personal issues. You aren't wanted there - and you (in most cases) don't want to go there. 4. Don't be a fucking pussy and be offended by everything. You'll just get bogged down mentally.
No where in that text do I infer "passivity." Nowhere do I infer "selfishness."
Good advice!
--- I feel like if we're going to do bikini basketball we might as well just go all the fucking way.
It's not the "Never take offense" part that is bad, it's the "unless" part that is bad, because it shows nothing but selfishness of a person.
#1 For example, if someone talks bad about your family, or even someone talks shit about some random races/gender/a handicapped homeless person on the street, you don't feel bad/feel angry?
#2 Not all kind of money making is good, there're people dealing drugs, cheating the systems, preying on people. You might not have anything to do with it, nor it affects you, but it's stupid when someone says "I deal drugs for underage for a living", and you say "Ok cool."
#3 If this is a good advice, we might as well as get rid of domestic violence and stuff. It's bad that people treat people badly, people treating their significant other badly is even worse. If you don't take offense a human being beating/talking down another person, then w/e
#4 This is meh, no comment. It's just a repeat of every other things, and other old sayings, although nowaday it's hard to judge what hurts you and whatnot.
Your paraphrase is not the same as the original meaning...
Take offense is one thing, and show action is another thing. You don't need to show in action that you don't like it. If you don't even take offense when the community/family around you, you still are nothing a bad seed.
1. I ask myself...who is that person to me? I don't even bother to ask myself if that is true - because it likely isn't. 2. You know I wasn't including criminal activities. Why would you argue that? Don't those kind of illegal activities harm the lives of others? There you go. 3. You're reading things wrong. You take things way too fucking black and white. These arguments do not declare the mode of a human's existence or how he sees the world - they are merely principles to abide by. If I hate the world #3 is completely different than it would be to someone who cares about others but doesn't want to get involved in things he knows nothing about. I said...if someone asks you for help then it's all up to you if you want to help them - but don't go barging in on people's lives when the sum of your information about other people's problems is incomplete. Obviously...rape...murder....come on man. 4. Simply explains the reason why you would do 1-3.
I shouldn't have said paraphrase. I should have said interpretation.
If I take offense but don't show action...in the end I've done nothing. Why not instead disregard the words of the motherfuckers who insulted me - or attempted to in the first place? Why would you consider their words as valid?
-- Now, come on man - don't suggest that whoever insulted me might be close to me! IF he or she is...then his words would hold bit more oomph. ---
Judging what hurts me is as simple as 1,2.3. It really is an impulse decision. Better not to let such petty remarks hurt me at all, yo.
This is exploitation. Other than the producers and the team managers, I really question the morality of the women who think showing their bodies unnecessarily (obviously they know they are doing it to sell to the audience) is a good idea and a good way to earn money.
On September 28 2012 16:17 Christ the Redeemer wrote: This is exploitation. Other than the producers and the team managers, I really question the morality of the women who think showing their bodies unnecessarily (obviously they know they are doing it to sell to the audience) is a good idea and a good way to earn money.
And are you able to provide any evidence to show these women are exploited? That somehow they were coerced into playing a game of basketball while in a bikini? That it is against their beliefs and their will?
On September 28 2012 11:56 Fenrax wrote: Pure sexism. If you want to watch naked women, why not porn?
It's rare to find a really hot porn star.
While this league may find a lot of viewers simply because the girls are scantily clad, I don't see how it can be taken seriously as a measure of skill.
On September 28 2012 12:24 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:14 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:09 Shady Sands wrote:
On September 28 2012 12:04 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: Wait... so this isn't a sham league run by Hugh Hefner? Because I seriously thought it was. Sometimes gimmicks like that actually happen. What doesn't happen sometimes is a "competitive" league that decides it wants the main allure of it's mainstream sport to be boobs. Oh well. Minus 5 points for the human race.
Rule #2 learned growing up: unless you want to get your ass beat, never judge how another man (or woman) makes their living
What was number one?
#1 Never take offense to what people say, unless it's about your reputation #2 Never take offense to what people do for a living, unless it hurts your interests #3 Never take offense to how someone treats their significant other, unless he/she is your relative #4 Only get upset when things hurt you... that's how you won't end up getting unnecessarily tied up
those were four words of advice from a childhood friend that ended up becoming a gang member... a lot more honest than any advice i've gotten from anyone else. they've served me pretty well in life.
Worst words of advice I've ever heard in my life.
I have to agree. If you wish to take the road of passivity, mixed with selfishness, then do this; however I have to agree that it's some of the worst advice I have heard in my life (And it's so bad because it's almost seems like good advice at first).
As for Bikini Basketball . . . they really didn't have to call it that. It's shallow, effect, yet idiotic marketing. I really like watching Olympic volleyball but I refer watching the woman's because - "let's face it" - they all have a pretty good ass. But if you turned it into Bikini Volleyball then I would never watch it, even though the only thing that changes is the name. I don't go to the Bikini Coffee Shop in town because of the stigma of being seen there and I don't want to support a set of woman who try to make money off of their sexuality. I don't tip waitresses that flirt either. But Olympic volleyball is ever so slightly different because the sexuality isn't the focus and the athletes who are playing are athletes first and not something sexual. the reason why this marketing ploy is so dumb is because it focuses so heavily on the sexuality while falling short of actually delivering. If I want something sexy I can look up some pictures online.
What the hell? That advice is good because it it's pretty damn accurate.
1. Taking offense to what people say if it's not about your reputation just causes a shit storm. It causes unnecessary aggravation, flaming (especially on the internet) relationship damage, and all other shit. You make a fool of yourself sometimes, for no fucking reason. And there are more people who will say offensive things. What are you going to do, silence all the fucking haters? And the internet is a different ballgame - even worse. Professionals (say, Day9!) don't ever ever EVER reply to all the shit that flies around the web - they disconnect themselves completely. That shit just isn't fucking worth it.
2. What the fuck are YOU going to do about what other people do for a living? Damn man (liberals especially should agree with this). You just let them do what they want - unless that impedes the lives of others - or your interests. That might sound selfish, but it's really not. He's not saying to cut out all the competition - though his gang member friend probably was.
3. What the fuck are you going to do about how other people are treated - based only on your limited perception of their situations? That's a good way to get fucking rejected. Never EVER step in on someone else's problems - but you can be there if they need you. Don't be fucking nosy.
4. If you get upset at every single fucking thing...man...what are you some high-school girl (metaphorical "you")? Unless something or someone severely injures you mentally or physically - impedes your success or is deliberately bogging down your life in any way shape or form, who gives a fuck. Let it all go.
Paraphrased.... 1. Don't give a shit about what people say unless it affects you personally. As in, heart wrenching. 2. Don't give a fuck about what other people do - let them live their lives. 3. Don't get involved in other people's personal issues. You aren't wanted there - and you (in most cases) don't want to go there. 4. Don't be a fucking pussy and be offended by everything. You'll just get bogged down mentally.
No where in that text do I infer "passivity." Nowhere do I infer "selfishness."
Good advice!
--- I feel like if we're going to do bikini basketball we might as well just go all the fucking way.
It's not the "Never take offense" part that is bad, it's the "unless" part that is bad, because it shows nothing but selfishness of a person.
#1 For example, if someone talks bad about your family, or even someone talks shit about some random races/gender/a handicapped homeless person on the street, you don't feel bad/feel angry?
#2 Not all kind of money making is good, there're people dealing drugs, cheating the systems, preying on people. You might not have anything to do with it, nor it affects you, but it's stupid when someone says "I deal drugs for underage for a living", and you say "Ok cool."
#3 If this is a good advice, we might as well as get rid of domestic violence and stuff. It's bad that people treat people badly, people treating their significant other badly is even worse. If you don't take offense a human being beating/talking down another person, then w/e
#4 This is meh, no comment. It's just a repeat of every other things, and other old sayings, although nowaday it's hard to judge what hurts you and whatnot.
Your paraphrase is not the same as the original meaning...
Take offense is one thing, and show action is another thing. You don't need to show in action that you don't like it. If you don't even take offense when the community/family around you, you still are nothing a bad seed.
Actually most of the rules (as explained to me) have to do with my emotions rather than whether I think they're right or wrong.
1) If someone says something stupid or insensitive, I'd say "you're wrong" but not "I hate you because you say this." That's what I meant by not taking offense. It's about remaining calm and objective. 2) Same with the moneymaking. If someone makes a living dealing crack to elementary school kids, I'd say "that's illegal" or "that's going to fuck those kids up" but not "I think you should rot in hell for doing this" because, again, me expressing anger at him probably won't help solve the problem. 3) As regards domestic violence and stuff, the same thing applies. I can tell a guy "you shouldn't hit/cheat on your wife" but I won't say "You're human trash for beating your wife/cheating on her."
Nothing about not getting offended means surrendering one's sense of right or wrong--it means learning to keep your emotions/words spoken and your judgments on other people separate.
That's why it leads to rule 4: It's a survival skill. In this world you will have to deal with people who are terrible for one reason or another, and if you simply go around getting pissed because they're terrible, you're going to wind up on the shit end of the stick more often than not.