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On September 18 2012 11:25 Positronic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 10:59 jdseemoreglass wrote:On September 18 2012 10:44 Bigtony wrote:On September 18 2012 10:24 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I quit reading the article completely after about the third time it called jailbait "child pornography." Nice hit piece though. People need to grow up and live their own lives, quit placating your own meaningless and insecurity with misplaced judgment and self-righteousness. Using pictures of children (even clothed) for erotic stimulation is morally questionable behavior, even if it's not 'child pornography.' Also, 'hacking' photobucket/facebook for suggestive photos of people is also bad. People used to think that sodomy, or homosexuality, was "morally questionable behavior." And that involved another person! What you are talking about is someone masturbating in the privacy of their own home, sorry, I don't agree that it's such a horrible thing. I honestly don't care what they get off to if they aren't harming anybody. Society says it's no longer ok to hate gays. We say it's no longer ok to hate blacks. We say it's no longer ok to burn people at the stake because they were "witches." The people in our society who still harbor great hatred and anger and resentment in their hearts only have a couple socially sanctioned outlets left for their hatred, the primary being pedophiles. Their hatred is so great and irrational that it even spreads to people who are NOT pedophiles, such as those who look at jailbait. "Disgusting, you make me sick, these people should eliminated," those are the types of comments you hear even on a board as typically tolerant as teamliquid. I can't tell how much of it is just blind anger and hatred and how much is a need for people to prop up their own egos by judging others so harshly. Either way, it just comes across to me as sad and backwards. So the people who were racist against blacks, and homophobic when confronted with homosexuality, are now just taking out their hatred on pedophiles? Your logic is so twisted I don't even know where to begin with it. Being upset, angry, and hating a group of people whose mission to exploit those who are most vulnerable in our society is "sad and backwards"? People judge others who do this harshly because they can form a mental image in their mind of a child they know, or love, being used for someone else's stimulation and find it absolutely repulsive, not because they are looking for someone to take their anger out on.
I think his point was moreso that people actually abusing/raping/touching/etc children should be witch hunted. Though both groups (viewers and producers) are in ways related. I can also sympathize with the pedophile who does nothing wrong, but instantly gets hated for having a preference that he or she does not pursue or view.
It's a sad world we live in where people are fucking kids :/
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On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward.
I wouldn't know, to be honest. I've never looked in to beating trannies fortunately.
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On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward.
Heres a better question that is rather straightforward. Do people do terrible things? Like if your argument here is that Reddit's job is to police a free forum then perhaps you need a better lesson on the definition of freedom. People want to be fucked up, they'll be fucked up and this conversation is on Reddit banning CP which time and time again they've proven to do so (look at the edit on the first page, if you saw it when it was originally made it was sensationalist as fuck with no actual knowledge of the topic at hand)
Reddit has clearly defined itself as a medium, not a supporter. You can say "the middle guy is at fault to" and for CP yes they would be but they don't have CP on their main forum and they hunt down CP as best as they can on the sub forums. Beating trannies ? I don't see the relation or importance of a fetish sub.
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On September 18 2012 11:32 skipgamer wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. I wouldn't know, to be honest. I've never looked in to beating trannies fortunately.
take a look at it. it's there and you're defending it with incredibly immature thinking.
On September 18 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. Heres a better question that is rather straightforward. Do people do terrible things? Like if your argument here is that Reddit's job is to police a free forum then perhaps you need a better lesson on the definition of freedom. People want to be fucked up, they'll be fucked up and this conversation is on Reddit banning CP which time and time again they've proven to do so (look at the edit on the first page, if you saw it when it was originally made it was sensationalist as fuck with no actual knowledge of the topic at hand) Reddit has clearly defined itself as a medium, not a supporter. You can say "the middle guy is at fault to" and for CP yes they would be but they don't have CP on their main forum and they hunt down CP as best as they can on the sub forums. Beating trannies ? I don't see the relation or importance of a fetish sub.
I didn't understand most of this because I'm an adult with a job. If I was at a party and saw someone murder a transexual person, I'd be pretty offended. The fact that gloating about that on the internet is cool because of a bunch of disconnected words about FREEDOM!!!!!!11 and "CP" (internet codeword to reduce the meaning of the phrase child pornography) is exactly why things like reddit need to go away. Stop holding on to the old internet culture for dear life and grow the fuck up.
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On September 18 2012 11:32 Alay wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:25 Positronic wrote:On September 18 2012 10:59 jdseemoreglass wrote:On September 18 2012 10:44 Bigtony wrote:On September 18 2012 10:24 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I quit reading the article completely after about the third time it called jailbait "child pornography." Nice hit piece though. People need to grow up and live their own lives, quit placating your own meaningless and insecurity with misplaced judgment and self-righteousness. Using pictures of children (even clothed) for erotic stimulation is morally questionable behavior, even if it's not 'child pornography.' Also, 'hacking' photobucket/facebook for suggestive photos of people is also bad. People used to think that sodomy, or homosexuality, was "morally questionable behavior." And that involved another person! What you are talking about is someone masturbating in the privacy of their own home, sorry, I don't agree that it's such a horrible thing. I honestly don't care what they get off to if they aren't harming anybody. Society says it's no longer ok to hate gays. We say it's no longer ok to hate blacks. We say it's no longer ok to burn people at the stake because they were "witches." The people in our society who still harbor great hatred and anger and resentment in their hearts only have a couple socially sanctioned outlets left for their hatred, the primary being pedophiles. Their hatred is so great and irrational that it even spreads to people who are NOT pedophiles, such as those who look at jailbait. "Disgusting, you make me sick, these people should eliminated," those are the types of comments you hear even on a board as typically tolerant as teamliquid. I can't tell how much of it is just blind anger and hatred and how much is a need for people to prop up their own egos by judging others so harshly. Either way, it just comes across to me as sad and backwards. So the people who were racist against blacks, and homophobic when confronted with homosexuality, are now just taking out their hatred on pedophiles? Your logic is so twisted I don't even know where to begin with it. Being upset, angry, and hating a group of people whose mission to exploit those who are most vulnerable in our society is "sad and backwards"? People judge others who do this harshly because they can form a mental image in their mind of a child they know, or love, being used for someone else's stimulation and find it absolutely repulsive, not because they are looking for someone to take their anger out on. I think his point was moreso that people actually abusing/raping/touching/etc children should be witch hunted. Though both groups (viewers and producers) are in ways related. I can also sympathize with the pedophile who does nothing wrong, but instantly gets hated for having a preference that he or she does not pursue or view. It's a sad world we live in where people are fucking kids :/
I addressed this point: when you create a market as easily accessible as reddit for creepy things like posting pictures of kids who don't know their being photographed because that's a requirement of it being "sexy" enough, I think people who post there and the people who allow it to continue should be witch-hunted. Not to mention the users going out and finding more of that material on the Internet, or going and doing it themselves.
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On September 18 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. Heres a better question that is rather straightforward. Do people do terrible things? Like if your argument here is that Reddit's job is to police a free forum then perhaps you need a better lesson on the definition of freedom. People want to be fucked up, they'll be fucked up and this conversation is on Reddit banning CP which time and time again they've proven to do so (look at the edit on the first page, if you saw it when it was originally made it was sensationalist as fuck with no actual knowledge of the topic at hand) .
The OP of this thread has never had the content modified, I only added my thoughts, if that's what you were addressing
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On September 18 2012 11:37 Positronic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. Heres a better question that is rather straightforward. Do people do terrible things? Like if your argument here is that Reddit's job is to police a free forum then perhaps you need a better lesson on the definition of freedom. People want to be fucked up, they'll be fucked up and this conversation is on Reddit banning CP which time and time again they've proven to do so (look at the edit on the first page, if you saw it when it was originally made it was sensationalist as fuck with no actual knowledge of the topic at hand) . The OP of this thread has never had the content modified, I only added my thoughts, if that's what you were addressing
I apologize someone edited the thread showing how wrong the op is then (I must have opened thinking it was the first page, let me scan back)
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On September 18 2012 11:34 yeastiality wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:32 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. I wouldn't know, to be honest. I've never looked in to beating trannies fortunately. take a look at it. it's there and you're defending it with incredibly immature thinking.
As a transsexual individual, I took a deep breath, then I took a peek--Yeah, that's a pretty silly/immature/fucked up subreddit.
It's not very related to the "jailbait = cp" discussion, but I highly doubt anyone there would lay a finger on someone. People tend to act way differently behind a keyboard.
Now if you excuse me, I'm going to go puke and cry for a bit o_O
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This honestly doesn't change my few of Reddit (I am not a 'Redditer nor do I frequent the site outside of someone sending me a link)
Reddit... like many other technologies, is just a tool. I do not feel any type of anger or disgust towards Reddit, no more than I would blame google if people were finding child pornograhy using their search engine. Reddit's founders developed a way for people to connect and communicate.. and I do not hold them responsible for the way it is used.
A certain % of the population were pedophiles before Reddit existed.. and I'm sure that % will stay the same regardless if Reddit exists or not. Reddit has a very large user base... it seems only logical that the same % of people with 'pedo' tendancies (no more.. .no less) would exist on that site as would exist in the general population.
I feel what they are doing is the best that we can expect of them.. and that is to monitor their own website for illegal activity and report/remove such activity when they find it.. which is what they are doing.
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On September 18 2012 11:35 Positronic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:32 Alay wrote:On September 18 2012 11:25 Positronic wrote:On September 18 2012 10:59 jdseemoreglass wrote:On September 18 2012 10:44 Bigtony wrote:On September 18 2012 10:24 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I quit reading the article completely after about the third time it called jailbait "child pornography." Nice hit piece though. People need to grow up and live their own lives, quit placating your own meaningless and insecurity with misplaced judgment and self-righteousness. Using pictures of children (even clothed) for erotic stimulation is morally questionable behavior, even if it's not 'child pornography.' Also, 'hacking' photobucket/facebook for suggestive photos of people is also bad. People used to think that sodomy, or homosexuality, was "morally questionable behavior." And that involved another person! What you are talking about is someone masturbating in the privacy of their own home, sorry, I don't agree that it's such a horrible thing. I honestly don't care what they get off to if they aren't harming anybody. Society says it's no longer ok to hate gays. We say it's no longer ok to hate blacks. We say it's no longer ok to burn people at the stake because they were "witches." The people in our society who still harbor great hatred and anger and resentment in their hearts only have a couple socially sanctioned outlets left for their hatred, the primary being pedophiles. Their hatred is so great and irrational that it even spreads to people who are NOT pedophiles, such as those who look at jailbait. "Disgusting, you make me sick, these people should eliminated," those are the types of comments you hear even on a board as typically tolerant as teamliquid. I can't tell how much of it is just blind anger and hatred and how much is a need for people to prop up their own egos by judging others so harshly. Either way, it just comes across to me as sad and backwards. So the people who were racist against blacks, and homophobic when confronted with homosexuality, are now just taking out their hatred on pedophiles? Your logic is so twisted I don't even know where to begin with it. Being upset, angry, and hating a group of people whose mission to exploit those who are most vulnerable in our society is "sad and backwards"? People judge others who do this harshly because they can form a mental image in their mind of a child they know, or love, being used for someone else's stimulation and find it absolutely repulsive, not because they are looking for someone to take their anger out on. I think his point was moreso that people actually abusing/raping/touching/etc children should be witch hunted. Though both groups (viewers and producers) are in ways related. I can also sympathize with the pedophile who does nothing wrong, but instantly gets hated for having a preference that he or she does not pursue or view. It's a sad world we live in where people are fucking kids :/ I addressed this point: when you create a market as easily accessible as reddit for creepy things like posting pictures of kids who don't know their being photographed because that's a requirement of it being "sexy" enough, I think people who post there and the people who allow it to continue should be witch-hunted. Not to mention the users going out and finding more of that material on the Internet, or going and doing it themselves.
Are you arguing that distributors of child pornography should be taken down, I concur. I think reddit both removes that content and reports it to authorities though.
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On September 18 2012 11:34 yeastiality wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:32 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. I wouldn't know, to be honest. I've never looked in to beating trannies fortunately. take a look at it. it's there and you're defending it with incredibly immature thinking. Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. Heres a better question that is rather straightforward. Do people do terrible things? Like if your argument here is that Reddit's job is to police a free forum then perhaps you need a better lesson on the definition of freedom. People want to be fucked up, they'll be fucked up and this conversation is on Reddit banning CP which time and time again they've proven to do so (look at the edit on the first page, if you saw it when it was originally made it was sensationalist as fuck with no actual knowledge of the topic at hand) Reddit has clearly defined itself as a medium, not a supporter. You can say "the middle guy is at fault to" and for CP yes they would be but they don't have CP on their main forum and they hunt down CP as best as they can on the sub forums. Beating trannies ? I don't see the relation or importance of a fetish sub. I didn't understand most of this because I'm an adult with a job. If I was at a party and saw someone murder a transexual person, I'd be pretty offended. The fact that gloating about that on the internet is cool because of a bunch of disconnected words about FREEDOM!!!!!!11 and "CP" (internet codeword to reduce the meaning of the phrase child pornography) is exactly why things like reddit need to go away. Stop holding on to the old internet culture for dear life and grow the fuck up.
You get ad hominem because you're "grown the fuck up" ^^ Interesting, you seem to have quite the ideology. So is NASA a standardized code word to reduce the meaning? No it isn't, CP and Child Pornography mean the same thing because it's an acronym...
I don't even understand your argument, you're making claims about how you're and adult with a job which ... somehow gives you substance? The average TL user I'd bet is an adult with a job including myself so where does this even gain merit?
I didn't know freedom has become a disconnected word, the definition seems so concrete.
Maybe you should calm your passive aggressive posting down a smidgen and actually start reading what you're replying too. No need to get so fired up.
On September 18 2012 05:30 xBillehx wrote:
So I decided to just go through the subreddits listed to confirm/deny whether or not it's stuff that should be taken care of.
girlsinschooluniforms - NSFW. Looks like college/private school/porn stars. Haven't seen anything resembling child porn though.
volleyballgirls - Bunch of images of girls in volleyball outfits, usually focusing on their asses. Bearing in mind these uniforms are what they play in at public matches, again nothing resembling child porn.
TeenSex - Banned subreddit. Seems like they do in fact clean up the messes they find.
realteens - Banned subreddit.
johnnybait - Banned subreddit.
JailbaitPhotos - Troll subreddit with literally 7 posts. Not actual child porn
Underage - Banned subreddit.
Jail_bait - only one post linking to yet another Banned subreddit.
Jailbaits - Banned subreddit.
NSFW_JAILBAIT_TUBE - Banned subreddit.
PregnantJailbait - Banned subreddit.
PhotoPlunder - NSFW. Reposted pictures of women found on the internet. Has rules against underaged girls specifically.
FacebookCleavage - NSFW. Essentially pictures women post on their facebooks for the public to see in dresses, bikini's etc showing cleavage. Also has rules against underaged girls.
japanese_idols - Private subreddit. Unverifiable but I'm pretty sure Reddit Admins can see what's behind the door to make sure.
AngieVerona - Private subreddit. Questionable because of it's name but again, Reddit Admins probably have access.
The Voyeurism stuff is something that should be investigated by the appropriate authorities, as well as the rape/incest stuff but I don't think reddit is responsible for looking up every single discussion to make sure people aren't talking about it. Finding something you think is illegal and reporting it is about the best you can do since some of the topics walk a thin line where discussion without necessarily committing criminal acts isn't grounds for deletion.
Ultimately it seems reddit does a damn good job at closing down subreddits that blatantly cross the line, so I don't believe outrage towards reddit is warranted. Yes, despite their efforts there are most certainly still sick people on reddit. Sick people exist in this world and they use the internet, it's just impossible to stop this, but it's not reddit's fault.
For the user above who commented how I made a mistake about the op being edited (Which I did, my apologies)
This was the post I was referring to which I actually thought was the OP as I scanned earlier today.
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Not sure exactly what Anderson Cooper was trying to imply by saying there also a subreddit for asianjailbait, followed up by dead bodies.
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On September 18 2012 11:29 Positronic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:26 sunprince wrote:On September 18 2012 11:16 Aerisky wrote:
Good lord, I had no idea it had gotten this bad....... wow.
Reddit is good as a community and indeed it's somewhat bad to come down on Reddit as a whole for the behavior of its subcommunities. However, it must be made very clear that these kinds of subcommunities must not and will not be allowed to exist. Reddit should be pressured to close all of these kinds of subcommunities because they are not only immoral but oftentimes illegal, apparently. Users should be dealt with severely. Just my two cents. It's not "this bad". The OP is a hit piece written by moral crusaders. All of the subreddits listed were either closed down long ago, are troll subreddits meant satrically, or aren't what moral crusaders say they are. ShitRedditSays is a subreddit for radical feminist extremists and is not taken seriously by anyone on Reddit for good reason. They're the same scumbags who started the false flag letter writing campaign to Root's sponsors that got Destiny fired. That's pretty smear-like, kind of like the hit piece in the OP huh?
The difference is that my post is true, which can be verified by visiting ShitRedditSays and/or using Google (the Destiny part can be confirmed in the relevant thread here at TL).
By contrast, if you check out the subreddits listed in the OP (as has been done/discussed by multiple people on this thread already), it's readily apparent that there's a lot of exaggerations and outright falsehoods going on in the OP.
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On September 18 2012 11:43 NeMeSiS3 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:34 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:32 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. I wouldn't know, to be honest. I've never looked in to beating trannies fortunately. take a look at it. it's there and you're defending it with incredibly immature thinking. On September 18 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. Heres a better question that is rather straightforward. Do people do terrible things? Like if your argument here is that Reddit's job is to police a free forum then perhaps you need a better lesson on the definition of freedom. People want to be fucked up, they'll be fucked up and this conversation is on Reddit banning CP which time and time again they've proven to do so (look at the edit on the first page, if you saw it when it was originally made it was sensationalist as fuck with no actual knowledge of the topic at hand) Reddit has clearly defined itself as a medium, not a supporter. You can say "the middle guy is at fault to" and for CP yes they would be but they don't have CP on their main forum and they hunt down CP as best as they can on the sub forums. Beating trannies ? I don't see the relation or importance of a fetish sub. I didn't understand most of this because I'm an adult with a job. If I was at a party and saw someone murder a transexual person, I'd be pretty offended. The fact that gloating about that on the internet is cool because of a bunch of disconnected words about FREEDOM!!!!!!11 and "CP" (internet codeword to reduce the meaning of the phrase child pornography) is exactly why things like reddit need to go away. Stop holding on to the old internet culture for dear life and grow the fuck up. You get ad hominem because you're "grown the fuck up" ^^ Interesting, you seem to have quite the ideology. So is NASA a standardized code word to reduce the meaning? No it isn't, CP and Child Pornography mean the same thing because it's an acronym... I don't even understand your argument, you're making claims about how you're and adult with a job which ... somehow gives you substance? The average TL user I'd bet is an adult with a job including myself so where does this even gain merit? I didn't know freedom has become a disconnected word, the definition seems so concrete. Maybe you should calm your passive aggressive posting down a smidgen and actually start reading what you're replying too. No need to get so fired up.
You really need to think about things in context, specifically about acronyms (euphemisms and code words are more like it). He isn't saying that acronyms reduce the meaning of anything, he was saying that some people will use slightly more neutral language, and at other times more inflammatory, to frame an argument in the way that helps their side. Take "Obamacare" for example. There is no law called "Obamacare". There is however the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which doesn't sound as good when using health care reform as a reason to vote the U.S. president out of office. This term was originally used SOLELY by Republicans to tie Obama to the law, and by doing so tie all of the other fabrications about his "not knowing how to be an American" (and being Muslim, and having "death panels", and...you get the idea) and delegitimize the law altogether.
Using CP as short hand can have the same effect. Since the full words are not written or spoken, people often don't FEEL the full impact of the words.
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On September 18 2012 11:43 NeMeSiS3 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:34 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:32 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. I wouldn't know, to be honest. I've never looked in to beating trannies fortunately. take a look at it. it's there and you're defending it with incredibly immature thinking. On September 18 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. Heres a better question that is rather straightforward. Do people do terrible things? Like if your argument here is that Reddit's job is to police a free forum then perhaps you need a better lesson on the definition of freedom. People want to be fucked up, they'll be fucked up and this conversation is on Reddit banning CP which time and time again they've proven to do so (look at the edit on the first page, if you saw it when it was originally made it was sensationalist as fuck with no actual knowledge of the topic at hand) Reddit has clearly defined itself as a medium, not a supporter. You can say "the middle guy is at fault to" and for CP yes they would be but they don't have CP on their main forum and they hunt down CP as best as they can on the sub forums. Beating trannies ? I don't see the relation or importance of a fetish sub. I didn't understand most of this because I'm an adult with a job. If I was at a party and saw someone murder a transexual person, I'd be pretty offended. The fact that gloating about that on the internet is cool because of a bunch of disconnected words about FREEDOM!!!!!!11 and "CP" (internet codeword to reduce the meaning of the phrase child pornography) is exactly why things like reddit need to go away. Stop holding on to the old internet culture for dear life and grow the fuck up. You get ad hominem because you're "grown the fuck up" ^^ Interesting, you seem to have quite the ideology. So is NASA a standardized code word to reduce the meaning? No it isn't, CP and Child Pornography mean the same thing because it's an acronym... I don't even understand your argument, you're making claims about how you're and adult with a job which ... somehow gives you substance? The average TL user I'd bet is an adult with a job including myself so where does this even gain merit? I didn't know freedom has become a disconnected word, the definition seems so concrete.
- Oh noooooo ad hominem. Next thing I know you'll be all over me with the wikipedia list of logical fallacies. All the high school debate classes in the world won't make up for your lack of argumentative rigor and evidence. This is why I make fun of you.
- I've only ever seen reddit/4chan people say CP because it's part of their insular defensive culture. Lots of normal, right-thinking people say NASA, but they also say National Aeronautics and Space Administration because it doesn't evoke images of horrible indefensible acts. When someone says "lol i was on /b/ and there was CP wow 4chan is so crazzzyyy!!!" they immediately mark themselves as being a worthless human - "CP" is the first step toward this. Agree or disagree, but this pattern can be witnessed throughout history (and in other parts of reddit ... isn't there a list of approved acronyms in the RapingWomen section or something? a reddit historian will have to remind me here)
- My argument is that only basement nerds who spend all day on reddit will go to these great lengths to defend child pornography, rape, and beating transexuals to death in the name of 'freedom' (without any real education or effort to understand political concepts like libertarianism). It's not an argument for or against 'reddit as a haven for illegal content' - it's just me explaining why I don't you seriously when you go "FREEDOMMMMM" and think you're talking like a big boy.
- You proposed that I might "need a lesson on the definition of freedom", and then didn't give me one. Do you need a lesson on the definition of beating transexuals to death and high-fiving one another in public view for it?
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On September 18 2012 11:52 Positronic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:43 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On September 18 2012 11:34 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:32 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. I wouldn't know, to be honest. I've never looked in to beating trannies fortunately. take a look at it. it's there and you're defending it with incredibly immature thinking. On September 18 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. Heres a better question that is rather straightforward. Do people do terrible things? Like if your argument here is that Reddit's job is to police a free forum then perhaps you need a better lesson on the definition of freedom. People want to be fucked up, they'll be fucked up and this conversation is on Reddit banning CP which time and time again they've proven to do so (look at the edit on the first page, if you saw it when it was originally made it was sensationalist as fuck with no actual knowledge of the topic at hand) Reddit has clearly defined itself as a medium, not a supporter. You can say "the middle guy is at fault to" and for CP yes they would be but they don't have CP on their main forum and they hunt down CP as best as they can on the sub forums. Beating trannies ? I don't see the relation or importance of a fetish sub. I didn't understand most of this because I'm an adult with a job. If I was at a party and saw someone murder a transexual person, I'd be pretty offended. The fact that gloating about that on the internet is cool because of a bunch of disconnected words about FREEDOM!!!!!!11 and "CP" (internet codeword to reduce the meaning of the phrase child pornography) is exactly why things like reddit need to go away. Stop holding on to the old internet culture for dear life and grow the fuck up. You get ad hominem because you're "grown the fuck up" ^^ Interesting, you seem to have quite the ideology. So is NASA a standardized code word to reduce the meaning? No it isn't, CP and Child Pornography mean the same thing because it's an acronym... I don't even understand your argument, you're making claims about how you're and adult with a job which ... somehow gives you substance? The average TL user I'd bet is an adult with a job including myself so where does this even gain merit? I didn't know freedom has become a disconnected word, the definition seems so concrete. Maybe you should calm your passive aggressive posting down a smidgen and actually start reading what you're replying too. No need to get so fired up. You really need to think about things in context, specifically about acronyms (euphemisms and code words are more like it). He isn't saying that acronyms reduce the meaning of anything, he was saying that some people will use slightly more neutral language, and at other times more inflammatory, to frame an argument in the way that helps their side. Take "Obamacare" for example. There is no law called "Obamacare". There is however the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which doesn't sound as good when using health care reform as a reason to vote the U.S. president out of office. This term was originally used SOLELY by Republicans to tie Obama to the law, and by doing so tie all of the other fabrications about his "not knowing how to be an American" (and being Muslim, and having "death panels", and...you get the idea) and delegitimize the law altogether. Using CP as short hand can have the same effect. Since the full words are not written or spoken, people often don't FEEL the full impact of the words.
Wow you got way off topic there. Obamacare simply seems easier to say than the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, or even PPACA. But basically what you are saying is that you oppose using words for emotional impact when it comes to "Obamacare," but support using words for emotional impact when it comes to "CP."
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On September 18 2012 08:49 Misanthrope wrote:
"seduction" devoted to teaching men how to rape women? are you fucking kidding me? it's about learning to man the fuck up and not be a whiny introverted pussy around people. that includes respecting women by treating them as human beings, not aliens, and learning to have fun together. what a fucking joke this shit is.
Typical feminist creep shaming attempts to control male sexuality. Nothing new.
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SRS is a collection of anthropology/ african american studies/ women studies majors looking for purpose in life by finding things on reddit to be offended by.
Great debunking by xbillehx. Good points by sunprince.
These people do a lot to delegitimize and turn atleast me personally off potentially valid causes.
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On September 18 2012 11:52 Positronic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2012 11:43 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On September 18 2012 11:34 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:32 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. I wouldn't know, to be honest. I've never looked in to beating trannies fortunately. take a look at it. it's there and you're defending it with incredibly immature thinking. On September 18 2012 11:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:On September 18 2012 11:29 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote:On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote:On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote:
K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia.
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely.
I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. Heres a better question that is rather straightforward. Do people do terrible things? Like if your argument here is that Reddit's job is to police a free forum then perhaps you need a better lesson on the definition of freedom. People want to be fucked up, they'll be fucked up and this conversation is on Reddit banning CP which time and time again they've proven to do so (look at the edit on the first page, if you saw it when it was originally made it was sensationalist as fuck with no actual knowledge of the topic at hand) Reddit has clearly defined itself as a medium, not a supporter. You can say "the middle guy is at fault to" and for CP yes they would be but they don't have CP on their main forum and they hunt down CP as best as they can on the sub forums. Beating trannies ? I don't see the relation or importance of a fetish sub. I didn't understand most of this because I'm an adult with a job. If I was at a party and saw someone murder a transexual person, I'd be pretty offended. The fact that gloating about that on the internet is cool because of a bunch of disconnected words about FREEDOM!!!!!!11 and "CP" (internet codeword to reduce the meaning of the phrase child pornography) is exactly why things like reddit need to go away. Stop holding on to the old internet culture for dear life and grow the fuck up. You get ad hominem because you're "grown the fuck up" ^^ Interesting, you seem to have quite the ideology. So is NASA a standardized code word to reduce the meaning? No it isn't, CP and Child Pornography mean the same thing because it's an acronym... I don't even understand your argument, you're making claims about how you're and adult with a job which ... somehow gives you substance? The average TL user I'd bet is an adult with a job including myself so where does this even gain merit? I didn't know freedom has become a disconnected word, the definition seems so concrete. Maybe you should calm your passive aggressive posting down a smidgen and actually start reading what you're replying too. No need to get so fired up. You really need to think about things in context, specifically about acronyms (euphemisms and code words are more like it). He isn't saying that acronyms reduce the meaning of anything, he was saying that some people will use slightly more neutral language, and at other times more inflammatory, to frame an argument in the way that helps their side. Take "Obamacare" for example. There is no law called "Obamacare". There is however the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which doesn't sound as good when using health care reform as a reason to vote the U.S. president out of office. This term was originally used SOLELY by Republicans to tie Obama to the law, and by doing so tie all of the other fabrications about his "not knowing how to be an American" (and being Muslim, and having "death panels", and...you get the idea) and delegitimize the law altogether. Using CP as short hand can have the same effect. Since the full words are not written or spoken, people often don't FEEL the full impact of the words.
I think your example is very out of place... Obamacare is a slander and it is not an acronym... CP spread apart is Child Pornography. I don't see how that can make anyone more neutral. I don't get more neutral about the KKK because I hear it as the KKK or Ku Klux Klan...
The argument does not seem valid, do you have a better example? Obamacare is actually a slander trying to mock the Act, it isn't the OC act. It would be like saying "well they called it the PPAACA to make it more neutral!" "pa-ka"
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On September 18 2012 11:56 Sabu113 wrote:
SRS is a collection of anthropology/ african american studies/ women studies majors looking for purpose in life by finding things on reddit to be offended by.
Great debunking by xbillehx. Good points by sunprince.
These people do a lot to delegitimize and turn atleast me personally off potentially valid causes.
It would be nice if SRS was only looking to be offended. In reality, though, they've engaged in a lot of despicable campaigns, including getting Destiny fired, using DMCA requests to take down videos of people they don't like, tearing down posters supporting mens rights, spreading the "misandry don't real" meme, etc.
SRS is nothing more than a subreddit extension of RadFem Hub.
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