EPTReddit is good as a community and indeed it's somewhat bad to come down on Reddit as a whole for the behavior of its subcommunities. However, it must be made very clear that these kinds of subcommunities must not and will not be allowed to exist. Reddit should be pressured to close all of these kinds of subcommunities because they are not only immoral but oftentimes illegal, apparently. Users should be dealt with severely. Just my two cents.
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
Reddit is good as a community and indeed it's somewhat bad to come down on Reddit as a whole for the behavior of its subcommunities. However, it must be made very clear that these kinds of subcommunities must not and will not be allowed to exist. Reddit should be pressured to close all of these kinds of subcommunities because they are not only immoral but oftentimes illegal, apparently. Users should be dealt with severely. Just my two cents. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:08 Bigtony wrote: 1. What you do in the privacy of your home matters. 2. My dislike for pedophilic behavior is irrational? What? You're seriously comparing disliking pedophilia to hating blacks? 3. You misunderstand me I think. I'm saying that using pictures of children is pedophilia, even if it isn't explicitly illegal. 1) Why? If you aren't harming anybody by your behavior? 2) For many people it is irrational. First of all, because they do not draw a distinction between pedophilia and harmful behavior, such as child molestation. Second, because their hatred extends even to normal human behavior. And what I compared was the degree of hatred. The hatred of pedophiles is greater than the hatred for blacks, and more widespread as well. 3) I understand what pedophilia is, which is why I said that jailbait isn't. Maybe the hit piece in the OP had some good points actually, but they get completely ruined when you take the extreme stance as saying all of these subreddits are pedophiles and child pornography. | ||
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yeastiality
Canada374 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:16 Aerisky wrote: Good lord, I had no idea it had gotten this bad....... wow. Reddit is good as a community and indeed it's somewhat bad to come down on Reddit as a whole for the behavior of its subcommunities. However, it must be made very clear that these kinds of subcommunities must not and will not be allowed to exist. Reddit should be pressured to close all of these kinds of subcommunities because they are not only immoral but oftentimes illegal, apparently. Users should be dealt with severely. Just my two cents. They have been pressured and they just respond with pseudointellectual garbage: On September 18 2012 11:14 divito wrote: Free speech is free speech, is free speech. Once you start bringing your perspective and bias into it, it ceases to be free. Sorry dude! | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On September 18 2012 09:54 PanN wrote: I have been trying to figure out what this means for awhile... what does this have to do with andersons sexuality? *Clear throat*, In terms of biology, the genders are separated by the fact that Women have different chromosomes than Men. A person of the homosexuality variety is more penchant to the lady counterpart. The generalization is that women are more emotional driven to men's physicality. Hypothetically Anderson could be gay (pff google it yourself for its authenticity), it could explain a tons on this vocalist attitude of his. Hope you get that. | ||
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skipgamer
Australia701 Posts
Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely. I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. | ||
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yeastiality
Canada374 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:20 skipgamer wrote: K, continue your witch-hunt of kids/young adults who might have some minor interest in seeing young genitalia. Meanwhile on freenet/tor hundreds of thousands of videos of real child abuse are being shared freely. I don't condone it, but it's out there. Those are the sites / people that should be vilified, not reddit. Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote: Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. You are still missing the distinction here. It isn't the GROUPS that are the problem, it is the ABUSE that is the problem. | ||
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Bigtony
United States1606 Posts
Meaning...they're children. | ||
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yeastiality
Canada374 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:24 jdseemoreglass wrote: You are still missing the distinction here. It isn't the GROUPS that are the problem, it is the ABUSE that is the problem. Like the abuse of language and laws that reddit people hide behind? You'll have to be more specific or I'll just make fun of you all day.. | ||
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Positronic
121 Posts
On September 18 2012 10:59 jdseemoreglass wrote: People used to think that sodomy, or homosexuality, was "morally questionable behavior." And that involved another person! What you are talking about is someone masturbating in the privacy of their own home, sorry, I don't agree that it's such a horrible thing. I honestly don't care what they get off to if they aren't harming anybody. Society says it's no longer ok to hate gays. We say it's no longer ok to hate blacks. We say it's no longer ok to burn people at the stake because they were "witches." The people in our society who still harbor great hatred and anger and resentment in their hearts only have a couple socially sanctioned outlets left for their hatred, the primary being pedophiles. Their hatred is so great and irrational that it even spreads to people who are NOT pedophiles, such as those who look at jailbait. "Disgusting, you make me sick, these people should eliminated," those are the types of comments you hear even on a board as typically tolerant as teamliquid. I can't tell how much of it is just blind anger and hatred and how much is a need for people to prop up their own egos by judging others so harshly. Either way, it just comes across to me as sad and backwards. So the people who were racist against blacks, and homophobic when confronted with homosexuality, are now just taking out their hatred on pedophiles? Your logic is so twisted I don't even know where to begin with it. Being upset, angry, and hating a group of people whose mission to exploit those who are most vulnerable in our society is "sad and backwards"? People judge others who do this harshly because they can form a mental image in their mind of a child they know, or love, being used for someone else's stimulation and find it absolutely repulsive, not because they are looking for someone to take their anger out on. | ||
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skipgamer
Australia701 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:21 yeastiality wrote: Aren't both groups symptomatic of the same problem? The fact that bad things are on "freenet/tor" doesn't let reddit off the hook. No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it with fellow abusers. For most of the Real child porn communities, you can't even gain access until you have yourself shared numerous amounts of original child pornography content. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. | ||
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sunprince
United States2258 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:16 Aerisky wrote: Good lord, I had no idea it had gotten this bad....... wow. Reddit is good as a community and indeed it's somewhat bad to come down on Reddit as a whole for the behavior of its subcommunities. However, it must be made very clear that these kinds of subcommunities must not and will not be allowed to exist. Reddit should be pressured to close all of these kinds of subcommunities because they are not only immoral but oftentimes illegal, apparently. Users should be dealt with severely. Just my two cents. It's not "this bad". The OP is a hit piece written by moral crusaders. All of the subreddits listed were either closed down long ago, are troll subreddits meant satrically, or aren't what moral crusaders say they are. ShitRedditSays is a subreddit for radical feminist extremists and is not taken seriously by anyone on Reddit for good reason. They're the same scumbags who started the false flag letter writing campaign to Root's sponsors that got Destiny fired. | ||
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Alay
United States660 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:19 Xiphos wrote: *Clear throat*, In terms of biology, the genders are separated by the fact that Women have different chromosomes than Men. A person of the homosexuality variety is more penchant to the lady counterpart. The generalization is that women are more emotional driven to men's physicality. Hypothetically Anderson could be gay (pff google it yourself for its authenticity), it could explain a tons on this vocalist attitude of his. Hope you get that. The 1960s called and want their understanding of what homosexuality means back. But seriously speaking, that's a bit sensationalist. Regardless, as far as I see for the most part, reddit is pretty clean of anything overtly illegal (cp, etc) but I honestly don't dig for that stuff so maybe it's there and I don't notice *shrug* The whole jailbait thing was a few people getting mad and raising the knee-jerk panic of people to try and get reddit a bad name. There are more reasonable reasons to dislike reddit though if you really want to hate it, without grasping at straws. | ||
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jdseemoreglass
United States3773 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:25 Positronic wrote: So the people who were racist against blacks, and homophobic when confronted with homosexuality, are now just taking out their hatred on pedophiles? Your logic is so twisted I don't even know where to begin with it. Being upset, angry, and hating a group of people whose mission to exploit those who are most vulnerable in our society is "sad and backwards"? People judge others who do this harshly because they can form a mental image in their mind of a child they know, or love, being used for someone else's stimulation and find it absolutely repulsive, not because they are looking for someone to take their anger out on. The people who exploit children and harm them should be hated. The people who masturbate on the internet should not. That's my opinion anyway. My morality is based upon harm, not upon some biological emotion of disgust. | ||
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Positronic
121 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:26 sunprince wrote: It's not "this bad". The OP is a hit piece written by moral crusaders. All of the subreddits listed were either closed down long ago, are troll subreddits meant satrically, or aren't what moral crusaders say they are. ShitRedditSays is a subreddit for radical feminist extremists and is not taken seriously by anyone on Reddit for good reason. They're the same scumbags who started the false flag letter writing campaign to Root's sponsors that got Destiny fired. That's pretty smear-like, kind of like the hit piece in the OP huh? | ||
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NeMeSiS3
Canada2972 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:19 Xiphos wrote: *Clear throat*, In terms of biology, the genders are separated by the fact that Women have different chromosomes than Men. A person of the homosexuality variety is more penchant to the lady counterpart. The generalization is that women are more emotional driven to men's physicality. Hypothetically Anderson could be gay (pff google it yourself for its authenticity), it could explain a tons on this vocalist attitude of his. Hope you get that. How the fuck did we get this off topic? | ||
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yeastiality
Canada374 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:26 skipgamer wrote: No. Very different problems. If you have looked around (and I have, just because I think people should know.) on many freent/tor sites you have actual people who are abusing children through prostitution rings and the like, and sharing it. Reddit/4chan/etc are a very, very different ecosystem. Most of the "paedophiles" there would never touch a child. Let alone actually produce hard core child pornography. okay, skip the children part for a moment /r/BeatingTrannies - are these people doing horrible things and gloating about it, or are they reposting gore that was on rotten.com in 1998 and making idiotic meme images? remember: this question is extremely straightforward. | ||
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Positronic
121 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:28 jdseemoreglass wrote: The people who exploit children and harm them should be hated. The people who masturbate on the internet should not. That's my opinion anyway. My morality is based upon harm, not upon some biological emotion of disgust. I'd like you to consider the possibility that when you create a market for things like this, people tend to exploit children or young kids or make it their mission to go out and snap creepy photos of what could be your daughter, or nephew, or little sister. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:27 Alay wrote: The 1960s called and want their understanding of what homosexuality means back. But seriously speaking, that's a bit sensationalist. Regardless, as far as I see for the most part, reddit is pretty clean of anything overtly illegal (cp, etc) but I honestly don't dig for that stuff so maybe it's there and I don't notice *shrug* The whole jailbait thing was a few people getting mad and raising the knee-jerk panic of people to try and get reddit a bad name. There are more reasonable reasons to dislike reddit though if you really want to hate it, without grasping at straws. That's like saying "Oh Ima gonna place my hand in the fire because fuck it man, that concept is introduced during the Stone age!" | ||
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On September 18 2012 11:16 Aerisky wrote: Good lord, I had no idea it had gotten this bad....... wow. Reddit is good as a community and indeed it's somewhat bad to come down on Reddit as a whole for the behavior of its subcommunities. However, it must be made very clear that these kinds of subcommunities must not and will not be allowed to exist. Reddit should be pressured to close all of these kinds of subcommunities because they are not only immoral but oftentimes illegal, apparently. Users should be dealt with severely. Just my two cents. I don't think reddit, as a whole, censors things based on moral judgment. They only get rid of things that will get them in trouble legally. There are plenty of disgusting things on reddit that equally well deserve to be eliminated from a "moral" standpoint but are allowed to stand because of a lack of legal repercussions. | ||
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