Should weed be legalized? - Page 11

On September 02 2012 17:11 drwiggl3s wrote:
NTTemplar, are you high right now?

Honest question. Because we already have a thread for that.

On September 02 2012 17:15 acker wrote:
...What on earth does your above post even mean, NTTemplar?

On September 02 2012 16:02 NTTemplar wrote:


Not every person got good judgement, also the majority of people in their early teens smoke/drink/etc for all the wrong reasons like either fitting in, "rebelling" etc and often lack the capacity to make the right call.

On my list I would exclude alcohol if people could control themselves better as it is helpful for many to have a better time in many social gatherings and its harm is minimal when taken at reasonable amounts, as it mostly is just like candy that it is unhealthy food; however still exclude smoking since I am allergic and how it directly affects those around you, as compared to drinking which only affects you (but you in turn of course can do stupid things if you get too drunk)

Also my values are just what is biological optimal for the body; which is excercise, proper eating habits and healthy food.

That smart people will stay away from something doesn't mean we let stupid people harm themselves, to me that is like letting someone with autism live like a normal person, let them have to take care of everything themselves, which is beyond the capabilites of a lot of autists, or let someone with depression deal with it as they see fit, maybe through drinking deadly amounts of alcohol to cope with the mental pain the disorder cause.

If you do drugs, or drink significant amounts often, or smoke, or have similar habits, you are lacking judgement in a particular field.

Not limiting harmful substances to me is an elitist view, feels like the smart people don't care if less fortunate people kill themselves and if the world went to hell they would have no problem staying in a bunker and watch millions outside be nuked to death or whatever.

You will of course have to judge the strength of my arguements yourself, but as for evidence alcohol kills ontop of being unhealthy as compared to candy that only has a history of being unhealthy, smoking kills ontop of harming those around you (unless you only smoke with other smokers or alone, ALWAYS) and a lot of drugs also kill.

ONLY thing all of the substances have in common is a temporary benefical effect for your psyche, smoking is a stressreliever, drinking takes away emotional pain, drugs do all short of weird stuff depending on which you take, but I believe most can be put under giving the effect of being "high".

I believe in the freedom of choice, but also in protecting people with poor judgement, because all people are someones loved ones, and it is terrible to lose or even just see them harmed.

On September 02 2012 16:37 SpiffD wrote:


Buddy you better reread your biology textbook from highschool. Yeast only makes alcohol in the absence of oxygen which is not the case when breadmaking. Even if it did make alcohol as a byproduct when making bread wouldn't make alcohol a core food product.

On September 02 2012 15:57 TheRabidDeer wrote:
I think alcohol and weed are equally addictive. That is to say, the only way you become addicted to either is when you use them as escape mechanisms (or maybe if it runs in your family). Cigarettes however, are truly addictive and the only reason they are legal (hopefully) is because prohibition wont work on them at this point.

On September 02 2012 17:50 FragKrag wrote:
Cannabis should definitely be available to people who can use it for medicinal purposes, but outright legalizing weed just seems like a bad idea. The medical cannabis systems in many US states are very effective (albeit a bit corrupt in some cases) at what they do.

As far as legalizing weed (ie Marlboro Greens), I have to say I disagree. Decriminalizing it and making it an extremely low priority to law enforcement (along with other drugs) would be a good idea imo.

On September 02 2012 18:08 FragKrag wrote:


medicine is medicine...

Would you be for allowing everybody to buy benzos, morphine, etc OTC?

Selling to minors as a reason to legalize it? Legalizing weed will have zero effect on minors getting access to weed just like increasing the drinking age to 21 had zero effect on minors getting alcohol.

sure we can get tax money, but there are other ways to get money.

On September 02 2012 17:43 LeSioN wrote:


edit- somehow quoted the wrong thing XD

who are you to declare whether something is a "good" decision or not? weed has never been proven harmful. no one has ever died from it, and more and more studies show that it has valid medical uses such as curing cancer. dont tell me what to do because you think you have good judgement. i believe living life "substance free" is an admirable thing but dont lie to people and try to trick them into making decisions you would make, because you assume you have better "judgement"

On September 02 2012 18:26 farvacola wrote:

That would be a facile and supercilious goal, but even if I were brazen enough to consider my brand of "good" universal enough to apply to society at large, the right to direct ones own life would trump relatively minor circumspect health concerns.

On September 02 2012 18:27 FragKrag wrote:


ok....... you seem to think of weed as some kind of miracle drug, and I won't bother to try to correct you.

also, this idea of having to have the potential to kill as a measuring stick is seriously misguided. Something doesn't have to be able to kill you in order to fuck your life right?



yeah legalizing it won't help this