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Twinkle Toes
Profile Joined May 2012
United States3605 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 18:37:07
August 27 2012 18:30 GMT
#1
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57500919/perry-hall-high-school-student-shot-on-first-day-of-school-in-apparent-grudge-situation-police-say/
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(CBS/AP) PERRY HALL, Md. - Police said a student has been shot and a suspect is in custody at a Maryland high school, CBS Baltimore station WJZ-TV reports.

Baltimore County Police are investigating the confirmed shooting at Perry Hall High School. Students told WJZ-TV that the suspect was a student, but it hasn't been confirmed whether the suspect attended Perry Hall.

"It appears this was a one-on-one grudge situation," a police source told CBS News, adding that police are "99 percent sure there is just one suspect."

Gerald Roman, an 11th grader, told WJZ-TV that a student came into the school cafeteria and shot another student. Teachers then tackled the gun-toting student, and a shot was fired at the cafeteria ceiling, Roman said. By then, a police officer entered the cafeteria and assisted the teachers who took down the student.

A patient is seen on a stretcher after a shooting at Perry Hall High School in Perry Hall, Md., Aug. 27, 2012.

The injured 17-year-old student was flown by medevac to Shock Trauma. The male student's condition is critical.

"It's horrible," said Roman. "I mean, you would think the school would have better security than this, maybe metal detectors."

A young man without a shirt was seen by WJZ-TV's helicopter being escorted to a police cruiser in handcuffs.

Calls started coming in Monday shortly before 11 a.m. Fire crews and police cars are on the scene. In the air, sharpshooters and helicopters can be seen. After the shooting, the school was put on lockdown for almost an hour.

Students were seen leaving the school in an orderly manner. Some are being evacuated to Perry Hall Shopping Center across the street from the school, where parents can meet them. Other students are also being diverted to Perry Hall Middle School and Joppa View Elementary School.

Monday was the first day of school in Perry Hall. About 2,300 students attend the school. U.S. Secretary of Education Arne Duncan visited the school last week.

Perry Hall is a middle-class community along the Interstate 95 corridor, northeast of Baltimore city.


Please read the report above to have a context on the discussion.

tldr: A 17-year-old student at Baltimore’s Perry Hall High School was shot on the first day of classes and taken to an area hospital, while the shooter has been apprehended by police.

Now, let's discuss a few things. Shooting incidents in the US are increasing. Let me lead you to a report on mass shooting in the US since Columbine. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9414540/A-history-of-mass-shootings-in-the-US-since-Columbine.html

Going back, just from memory, I can name a few recent shootings: the Alabama shooting by a university professor, Colorado shooting at a TDKR premier, the most recent one before this in the Empire State, the one in Arizona injuring Congressman Gliffords.

What is motivating this? Shootings have happened before, but they seem more frequent now. Or do they seem more frequent only because media is so pervasive now (tv, internet, phones) that anything can be reported in real time? Or does media contribute to this phenomenon, encouraging shooting and desensitizing the would be shooters to it, whether they intend to shoot at a random mass or to a specific person? What is your opinion?
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Profile Joined June 2011
United States89 Posts
August 27 2012 18:34 GMT
#2
This is a bit different. Sure, it's a public shooting at a school, but it's not some guy shooting at anything that is human and not dead. It sounds like one guy wanted to murder one very specific perosn. This could have probably happened anywhere. It probably happened at a school because the shooter knew the victim would be there.
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xrapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1644 Posts
August 27 2012 18:35 GMT
#3
What the fuck.... I graduated from Perry Hall in 08..
Everyone is either delusional, a nihlilst, or dead from suicide.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
August 27 2012 18:41 GMT
#4
Murders happen, I'm not sure how this is remotely related to Columbine type incidents...
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
August 27 2012 18:48 GMT
#5
They arent happening more, they are just being reported more in the news. Either that or you are noticing them more. This is a pretty classic dispute between two people, happens every single day, multiple times even in the United States.
MiningSchuhu
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany53 Posts
August 27 2012 18:48 GMT
#6
´"It's horrible," said Roman. "I mean, you would think the school would have better security than this, maybe metal detectors."

That is wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin why that is a bad idea.
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
August 27 2012 18:49 GMT
#7
On August 28 2012 03:41 BluePanther wrote:
Murders happen, I'm not sure how this is remotely related to Columbine type incidents...

yea...
columbine was more of a shooting spree although jocks, or anyone wearing a baseball cap, was pretty much shot while some were shown some mercy
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green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
August 27 2012 18:50 GMT
#8
On August 28 2012 03:41 BluePanther wrote:
Murders happen, I'm not sure how this is remotely related to Columbine type incidents...


On the same level as people calling to ban music/games cause of stuff like this.
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unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
August 27 2012 18:50 GMT
#9
On August 28 2012 03:35 xrapture wrote:
What the fuck.... I graduated from Perry Hall in 08..

yea, i'm pretty sure that everyone who knows Perry Hall and the area is pretty surprised
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
August 27 2012 18:51 GMT
#10
On August 28 2012 03:30 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What is motivating this?


Fail gun laws that grant easy access to weapons.

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Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
August 27 2012 18:52 GMT
#11
metal detector in schools? wtf kinda stupid argument is that
heroyi
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1064 Posts
August 27 2012 18:53 GMT
#12
On August 28 2012 03:51 Xiron wrote:
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On August 28 2012 03:30 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What is motivating this?


Fail gun laws that grant easy access to weapons.

oiii here we go again
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Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 18:55:12
August 27 2012 18:55 GMT
#13
On August 28 2012 03:53 heroyi wrote:
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On August 28 2012 03:51 Xiron wrote:
On August 28 2012 03:30 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What is motivating this?


Fail gun laws that grant easy access to weapons.

oiii here we go again


Yea, sadly that's the foundation of all those shootings. If noone had weapons, those shootings wouldn't happen (as much).
Those crazy people are being encouraged by the media, get a weapon and go at it.
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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
August 27 2012 18:56 GMT
#14
Honestly, the colorado shooting and the amount of coverage it got by the media probably influenced the shootings. Speaking of
wtf type thing, the colorado shooter graduated from the same HS and lived only like 2 miles away from me (pretty upperclass neighborhood).
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
August 27 2012 18:57 GMT
#15
People in the US have guns and, on occasion, use them to shoot one or more human beings.

Yep.
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
August 27 2012 18:59 GMT
#16
On August 28 2012 03:55 Xiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2012 03:53 heroyi wrote:
On August 28 2012 03:51 Xiron wrote:
On August 28 2012 03:30 Twinkle Toes wrote:
What is motivating this?


Fail gun laws that grant easy access to weapons.

oiii here we go again


Yea, sadly that's the foundation of all those shootings. If noone had weapons, those shootings wouldn't happen (as much).
Those crazy people are being encouraged by the media, get a weapon and go at it.


hahaha oh how wrong you are. When somebody wants to shoot people they find a way to get a gun. It wouldn't prevent anything but unfortunately I know no matter how hard I try there is no way for you to see reason.

As for the OP, I think it's just media being able to cover everything. There are lots of murders with guns/knifes/etc. From what it sounds like he was probably bullied by the kid is my guess which caused him to want to kill him. I know this happened at my school or almost happened but somebody turned the kid in. He was going to knife a kid (ironically he bullied me to the kid he was going to knife). If he hadn't been caught he would have done it to.

When I think of something else, something will go here
Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
August 27 2012 19:02 GMT
#17
Lets allow everyone to have a gun, then be surprised people use them, then build metal detectors at schools...

I'll probably never understand the way how most people in the USA think about guns and security.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 19:05:03
August 27 2012 19:02 GMT
#18
Maybe it's the entitlement mentality being bred in young people these days. You know, the "I'm entitled to have things exactly the way I want them and if society doesn't deliver for whatever reason then I'm entitled to throw a tantrum about it." Some people take that to an extreme and kill. At least my theory is better than blaming inanimate objects for trends in behavior...
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Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
August 27 2012 19:02 GMT
#19
On August 28 2012 04:02 Zandar wrote:
Lets allow everyone to have a gun, then be surprised people use them, then build metal detectors at schools...

I'll probably never understand the way how most people in the USA think about guns and security.



We have these things called licenses...and ID checks...
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Trevoc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 19:05:04
August 27 2012 19:04 GMT
#20
Shootings are going to happen until gun control is changed... but any legislator that dares brings that up will be labeled as an "enemy of the Constitution"

I should also add that if someone wants to kill someone, they'll get a gun regardless of the laws surrounding
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