NASA: Strange and sudden massive melt in Greenland - Page 6

On July 25 2012 23:34 NeMeSiS3 wrote:


Sorry did you say the earth is 12,000 years old or were you just quoting ridiculous scripture to make your point... If we go by your logic, people can come from thin air, and the earth is the center of the universe. "facepalms"




I am not disagreeing with you on all points but "its because of the sun" is actually a very valid argument, I would equate it. The sun is in a cycle, every 11 years (2012 being the 11th year) it emits (to keep it realy simple we'll call it heat) heat out into space, but about approximately every 10th 11 year cycle it builds up much hotter than usual, in retrospect, which than can actually short out telecommunications/satellites etc... It is also the cause of big heat waves which can result in this "global warming" feeling. That's why specifically the last 10 years were the "hottest ever" because it was additive of the 11 year cycle of heat emission with the inclusion of our pollution.

But are people causing it? Yes, not entirely though, I would give it 70/30 (people the 70) as an approximation.

I seriously doubt we had anything with the global warming in the past and possibly in the present. Ok we might contribute a little with our human behavior but thats so little to actually matter on a grand scale.

Ice cores from [Summit Station in central Greenland] show that melting events of this type occur about once every 150 years on average. With the last one happening in 1889, this event is right on time," says Lora Koenig, a Goddard glaciologist and a member of the research team analyzing the satellite data.

"But if we continue to observe melting events like this in upcoming years, it will be worrisome."

On July 26 2012 02:16 DeepElemBlues wrote:
http://www.tgdaily.com/sustainability-features/64925-greenland-ice-melt-unprecedented-says-nasa



So... it's perfectly normal, but it's also unprecedented and rabble rabble rabble global warming.

God this fake crisis gets boring.

On July 26 2012 02:35 Infernal_dream wrote:
Does global warming exist? Yeah. Has it always, yeah. That's the point. The world would have never come out of the ice age if not for normal global warming. People just like to blow shit up so that it sounds better. And to all of those "you're fucking the world up for your children." What are you doing exactly? Typing on your computer doing the same stuff I am. So I'm not going to pretend that I give a damn while my actions show the complete opposite.

On July 26 2012 01:18 Crownlol wrote:
This isn't a controversial topic, and it isn't a debate. It's a fact, and denialists exist. Incentives for denial exist financially and career-wise. Imagine if you'd spent 40 years building a political empire as a conservative, only to have "well, honestly your policies are ruining the climate for humans" thrown in your face. You'd be required to deny it just to keep your job and your wealth.

On July 26 2012 02:44 dvorakftw wrote:lolololol, and the scientists who are selling us all this alarming news have absolutely ZERO incentives.

On July 26 2012 02:44 dvorakftw wrote:Btw, those policies ruining the climate? That's things like having a nice home with electricity and being able to travel in a car. If only we could be more like Native Americans living in harmony with the environment!

On July 26 2012 02:44 dvorakftw wrote:And here's a treat for everyone who has never bothered to look at a chart of Earth temperatures that goes back more than one or two hundred years, let alone the one or two decades that are used in most scare propaganda.

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On July 26 2012 01:39 SkelA wrote:
Greenland in our not so distant past didnt even have ice through the whole year. It was a land with grass in the south part and thats why its called Greenland.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_the_Red
When Erik returned to Iceland after his exile had expired, he is said to have brought with him stories of "Greenland". Erik deliberately gave the land a more appealing name than "Iceland" in order to lure potential settlers. He explained, "people would be attracted to go there if it had a favorable name".[...]After spending the winter in Iceland, Erik returned to Greenland in 985 with a large number of colonists and established two colonies on its southwest coast: the Eastern Settlement or Eystribyggð, in modern-day Qaqortoq, and the Western Settlement or Vestribyggð, close to present-day Nuuk. (Eventually, a Middle Settlement grew, but many people suggest it formed part of the Western Settlement.) The Eastern and Western Settlements, both established on the southwest coast, proved the only two areas suitable for farming.

On July 26 2012 02:44 dvorakftw wrote:


lolololol, and the scientists who are selling us all this alarming news have absolutely ZERO incentives.

Btw, those policies ruining the climate? That's things like having a nice home with electricity and being able to travel in a car. If only we could be more like Native Americans living in harmony with the environment!

And here's a treat for everyone who has never bothered to look at a chart of Earth temperatures that goes back more than one or two hundred years, let alone the one or two decades that are used in most scare propaganda.

On July 26 2012 04:17 nkr wrote:
Lets say we can never convince the doubters that we are 100% the cause of global warming. I used my incredible paint skills to illustrate why "taking action" against global warming should be the obvious choice, regardless of if we can proove that humans are the sole cause.

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