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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 08 2012 13:54 GMT
#341
On June 08 2012 22:51 sertas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 22:50 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:41 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:31 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:30 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 21:43 ErAsc2 wrote:
On June 08 2012 20:31 sertas wrote:
dont think gays should be allowed. Let the gays join the girls instead.

What about black people? Should they be allowed in the boyscouts? Or should they be forced to join the girls?



no that doesnt even make any sense. Let black male people be in BOY scouts obviously. They are people like evreone else.


So you're saying gay males are not boys?



they are boys but they are feminine boys. So let them join girls scouts.


How to respond to that..., i will just say no they are not, otherwise im going to end up insulting you quite badly.


you can have your opinion.


hardly opinion when I could show you gay people who are not feminine.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
June 08 2012 13:56 GMT
#342
On June 08 2012 22:52 Undrass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 22:41 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:31 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:30 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 21:43 ErAsc2 wrote:
On June 08 2012 20:31 sertas wrote:
dont think gays should be allowed. Let the gays join the girls instead.

What about black people? Should they be allowed in the boyscouts? Or should they be forced to join the girls?



no that doesnt even make any sense. Let black male people be in BOY scouts obviously. They are people like evreone else.


So you're saying gay males are not boys?



they are boys but they are feminine boys. So let them join girls scouts.


Why. Gay people aren't necessarily more feminine. Thats a stereotype.



so your saying that they arent more feminine then straight people? ok thats why ive never seen straight people wear the stuff that gay people do. Women clothes and speaking in a very feminine voice. My english isnt good enough to explain how it sounds.

In general they are definently more feminine then straight people thats for sure.
Undrass
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway381 Posts
June 08 2012 13:58 GMT
#343
On June 08 2012 22:56 sertas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 22:52 Undrass wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:41 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:31 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:30 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 21:43 ErAsc2 wrote:
On June 08 2012 20:31 sertas wrote:
dont think gays should be allowed. Let the gays join the girls instead.

What about black people? Should they be allowed in the boyscouts? Or should they be forced to join the girls?



no that doesnt even make any sense. Let black male people be in BOY scouts obviously. They are people like evreone else.


So you're saying gay males are not boys?



they are boys but they are feminine boys. So let them join girls scouts.


Why. Gay people aren't necessarily more feminine. Thats a stereotype.



so your saying that they arent more feminine then straight people? ok thats why ive never seen straight people wear the stuff that gay people do. Women clothes and speaking in a very feminine voice. My english isnt good enough to explain how it sounds.

In general they are definently more feminine then straight people thats for sure.


I don't know about you, but my two gay friends are exactly like every other male, except for their sexual orientation.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden890 Posts
June 08 2012 14:08 GMT
#344
On June 08 2012 22:58 Undrass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 22:56 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:52 Undrass wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:41 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:31 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:30 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 21:43 ErAsc2 wrote:
On June 08 2012 20:31 sertas wrote:
dont think gays should be allowed. Let the gays join the girls instead.

What about black people? Should they be allowed in the boyscouts? Or should they be forced to join the girls?



no that doesnt even make any sense. Let black male people be in BOY scouts obviously. They are people like evreone else.


So you're saying gay males are not boys?



they are boys but they are feminine boys. So let them join girls scouts.


Why. Gay people aren't necessarily more feminine. Thats a stereotype.



so your saying that they arent more feminine then straight people? ok thats why ive never seen straight people wear the stuff that gay people do. Women clothes and speaking in a very feminine voice. My english isnt good enough to explain how it sounds.

In general they are definently more feminine then straight people thats for sure.


I don't know about you, but my two gay friends are exactly like every other male, except for their sexual orientation.



for me its the opposite ive only seen gay people talk like girls and wear girly clothes. It varies a lot apparently.
Starshaped
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Sweden575 Posts
June 08 2012 14:22 GMT
#345
On June 08 2012 23:08 sertas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 22:58 Undrass wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:56 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:52 Undrass wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:41 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:31 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:30 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 21:43 ErAsc2 wrote:
On June 08 2012 20:31 sertas wrote:
dont think gays should be allowed. Let the gays join the girls instead.

What about black people? Should they be allowed in the boyscouts? Or should they be forced to join the girls?



no that doesnt even make any sense. Let black male people be in BOY scouts obviously. They are people like evreone else.


So you're saying gay males are not boys?



they are boys but they are feminine boys. So let them join girls scouts.


Why. Gay people aren't necessarily more feminine. Thats a stereotype.



so your saying that they arent more feminine then straight people? ok thats why ive never seen straight people wear the stuff that gay people do. Women clothes and speaking in a very feminine voice. My english isnt good enough to explain how it sounds.

In general they are definently more feminine then straight people thats for sure.


I don't know about you, but my two gay friends are exactly like every other male, except for their sexual orientation.



for me its the opposite ive only seen gay people talk like girls and wear girly clothes. It varies a lot apparently.


How many gay people do you know? How many exist in the world?

Do you see how your argument is anecdotal? Don't make sweeping statements about an entire group of people based on a few of your own experiences. Also, I dare say you've passed by a lot of gay people without even noticing it.
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Zedders
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
June 08 2012 14:36 GMT
#346
gay people exist.
boy scouts exist.
gay boy scouts should exist
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
June 08 2012 14:41 GMT
#347
On June 08 2012 22:41 sertas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 22:31 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:30 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 21:43 ErAsc2 wrote:
On June 08 2012 20:31 sertas wrote:
dont think gays should be allowed. Let the gays join the girls instead.

What about black people? Should they be allowed in the boyscouts? Or should they be forced to join the girls?



no that doesnt even make any sense. Let black male people be in BOY scouts obviously. They are people like evreone else.


So you're saying gay males are not boys?



they are boys but they are feminine boys. So let them join girls scouts.

User was temp banned for this post.

I'm going to go ahead and call you a troll at this point. I don't think anybody could be this ignorant and homophobic. The only way I could see you not being a troll would be if you're from the westboro baptist church.
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Alay
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States660 Posts
June 08 2012 14:59 GMT
#348
On June 08 2012 15:04 actionbastrd wrote:
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On June 08 2012 14:58 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On June 08 2012 14:56 actionbastrd wrote:
America is a country where people are free to express themselves, but freedom is a two way street. If gays are free to express themselves, the scouts should have to be free to express themselves too. I have met these men, they are good men, they are kind men, they do what they do what they think is best for kids. No matter how wrong we think they might be, it is not right to force them to think our way. It is up to us to persuade and help them see the light, not extort them to. Scouts help and have always helped a lot of kids, that’s why I love them. I will continue to persuade them to change their minds, but it is up to them to do it. It is their private club.

-_-


But we fund them with our taxes. Our government funds them. Isn't that wrong?


Well, ommiting gays is wrong, but this fact comes reletively new overall i think. I mean, our taxes pay for many things and not all of those things, or people rather, support gays. It is no different i think. Eventually everyone will get over themselves and being gay wont matter to anyone at all (well hopefully), but we arent there yet. It is lame tho.

The tax thing would be a better fit if everyone who pays for taxes was pro gay and that is just not the case.

Again, its not right, but its just one of those things that will eventually change if not right now. Not just with scouts, but with everyone


While that's true, I don't think it's something citizens should actively allow to happen--a government funded/subsidized organization that actively discriminates against anyone for any reason. While it will change in time, in the mean time everyone is still paying taxes. In this particular case, anyone that's anti-gay that wants to see money go to BSA for specifically their anti-gay policies can simply donate to them (much as any white supremacist can donate to a KKK chapter... wherever those sad things still exist.) I think any person can ultimately agree that they'd be against an organization that they had to pay to fund if it was discriminatory against THEM specifically (ie; their eye color, or their hair color, or whatever reason)
CptCutter
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom370 Posts
June 09 2012 16:53 GMT
#349
On June 08 2012 04:13 Dekoth wrote:
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On June 08 2012 04:06 CptCutter wrote:
gays should be allowed to be members, but not leaders. i cant get all these catholic priest incidents from the UK out of my head. i have nothing against gays, but sometimes it could be a bit much putting a homosexual man in charge of a group of teenagers that go on camping trips and the such.


Except you clearly do have something against them. Your post is contradictory. You say you have no problem, but if that were true then you wouldn't care. So obviously you have a problem, but you are just in denial about it. Being gay doesn't make someone a potential pedophile.


everyone is a potential to be a pedophile. but i would wager money on a higher percentage of gays being pedophiles in this sense, since well, you have to be gay to even do this? unless your saying that teenage boys are not considered male?
blug
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia623 Posts
June 09 2012 17:00 GMT
#350
I think Americans have bigger fish to fry rather than worrying about gays...
Derp
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 17:14:08
June 09 2012 17:12 GMT
#351
On June 10 2012 01:53 CptCutter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 04:13 Dekoth wrote:
On June 08 2012 04:06 CptCutter wrote:
gays should be allowed to be members, but not leaders. i cant get all these catholic priest incidents from the UK out of my head. i have nothing against gays, but sometimes it could be a bit much putting a homosexual man in charge of a group of teenagers that go on camping trips and the such.


Except you clearly do have something against them. Your post is contradictory. You say you have no problem, but if that were true then you wouldn't care. So obviously you have a problem, but you are just in denial about it. Being gay doesn't make someone a potential pedophile.


everyone is a potential to be a pedophile. but i would wager money on a higher percentage of gays being pedophiles in this sense, since well, you have to be gay to even do this? unless your saying that teenage boys are not considered male?


Alright... What?

You realize pedophilia is gender independent right? It's simply an attraction to children. In that sense I don't understand why you would wager a higher percentage of gays are pedophiles. Why should anyone take that statement seriously?

What do you mean, "You have to be gay to even do this?". Being gay has nothing to do with pedophilia.


On June 10 2012 02:00 blug wrote:
I think Americans have bigger fish to fry rather than worrying about gays...


This isn't adding anything. Worrying about the gays doesn't automatically make the other issues less important or even take significant resources away from other issues. Just because there are bigger issues doesn't mean you neglect everything else.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44132 Posts
June 09 2012 17:20 GMT
#352
On June 08 2012 22:56 sertas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 22:52 Undrass wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:41 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:31 Zaros wrote:
On June 08 2012 22:30 sertas wrote:
On June 08 2012 21:43 ErAsc2 wrote:
On June 08 2012 20:31 sertas wrote:
dont think gays should be allowed. Let the gays join the girls instead.

What about black people? Should they be allowed in the boyscouts? Or should they be forced to join the girls?



no that doesnt even make any sense. Let black male people be in BOY scouts obviously. They are people like evreone else.


So you're saying gay males are not boys?



they are boys but they are feminine boys. So let them join girls scouts.


Why. Gay people aren't necessarily more feminine. Thats a stereotype.



so your saying that they arent more feminine then straight people? ok thats why ive never seen straight people wear the stuff that gay people do. Women clothes and speaking in a very feminine voice. My english isnt good enough to explain how it sounds.

In general they are definently more feminine then straight people thats for sure.

Any man can fuck a girl, girls are generally weaker and more submissive. That takes no real skill or manliness. To exert your sexual dominance over another man though, now there's an act of masculinity, power and dominance. Pussy is for pussies. Real men fuck men.
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Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
June 09 2012 17:45 GMT
#353
Dang.... I would've joined the girl scouts if the name weren't so emasculating for a guy. If they called it "Happy Scouts" instead then that would be so legit. I think it's better marketing too on their part if they change their name to be not so obviously unmanly, that would be awesome
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
June 09 2012 17:46 GMT
#354
As a long-time scout, I knew several of my fellows were gay (both troop members and coworkers at camp). Lift the ban, I say.
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Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 17:52:00
June 09 2012 17:51 GMT
#355
On June 10 2012 02:46 flamewheel wrote:
As a long-time scout, I knew several of my fellows were gay (both troop members and coworkers at camp). Lift the ban, I say.

Also, why are the boy scouts still religiously affiliated. Is there something manly about believing in a certain faith at the age of 5? :/
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
fofa2000
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada548 Posts
June 09 2012 17:54 GMT
#356
Don't ask don't tell.
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Kyrillion
Profile Joined August 2011
Russian Federation748 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 18:17:27
June 09 2012 18:15 GMT
#357
On June 08 2012 23:36 Zedders wrote:
gay people exist.
boy scouts exist.
gay boy scouts should exist


Even though you're right on that, that's logically wrong.

Female people exist
Boy scouts exist
Female boy scouts should exist

Poplar trees exist
Boy scouts exist
Poplar tree boy scouts should exist


Any man can fuck a girl, girls are generally weaker and more submissive. That takes no real skill or manliness. To exert your sexual dominance over another man though, now there's an act of masculinity, power and dominance. Pussy is for pussies. Real men fuck men.


Wait, so gay sexuality is all about domination and power ? Surely you're not serious.

If you seek well, you shall find.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
June 09 2012 18:22 GMT
#358
On June 10 2012 03:15 Kyrillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 23:36 Zedders wrote:
gay people exist.
boy scouts exist.
gay boy scouts should exist


Even though you're right on that, that's logically wrong.

Female people exist
Boy scouts exist
Female boy scouts should exist

Poplar trees exist
Boy scouts exist
Poplar tree boy scouts should exist

Show nested quote +

Any man can fuck a girl, girls are generally weaker and more submissive. That takes no real skill or manliness. To exert your sexual dominance over another man though, now there's an act of masculinity, power and dominance. Pussy is for pussies. Real men fuck men.


Wait, so gay sexuality is all about domination and power ? Surely you're not serious.



For some people it is
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
June 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#359
On June 10 2012 03:15 Kyrillion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2012 23:36 Zedders wrote:
gay people exist.
boy scouts exist.
gay boy scouts should exist


Even though you're right on that, that's logically wrong.

Female people exist
Boy scouts exist
Female boy scouts should exist

Poplar trees exist
Boy scouts exist
Poplar tree boy scouts should exist

Show nested quote +

Any man can fuck a girl, girls are generally weaker and more submissive. That takes no real skill or manliness. To exert your sexual dominance over another man though, now there's an act of masculinity, power and dominance. Pussy is for pussies. Real men fuck men.


Wait, so gay sexuality is all about domination and power ? Surely you're not serious.



Technically he was saying that male sexuality is all about domination and power.
FailCow
Profile Joined March 2012
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-09 18:38:01
June 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#360
On June 10 2012 02:51 Gummy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2012 02:46 flamewheel wrote:
As a long-time scout, I knew several of my fellows were gay (both troop members and coworkers at camp). Lift the ban, I say.

Also, why are the boy scouts still religiously affiliated. Is there something manly about believing in a certain faith at the age of 5? :/


The boy scouts isn't about masculinity and manliness. Its founded on religious morals and becoming a good citizen.

For example, the Scout Oath is:

On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

The Scout Law is:

A Scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly,
courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty,
brave, clean, and reverent.

Clean includes not only physical attributes, but mental and sexual attributes. Reverent as quoted from the Official BSA website means: "A Scout is reverent toward God. He is faithful in his religious duties. He respects the beliefs of others."
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