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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
October 20 2012 00:24 GMT
#18201
On October 20 2012 09:20 SayGen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:07 Defacer wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:02 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 20 2012 08:55 farvacola wrote:
On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.

Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.

Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama

This post was "almost funny" until I realized you weren't joking. Though I urge you send a letter to the Romney Campaign suggesting they adopt the slogan, "Vote Romney, after all which party freed the slaves."

Is he really serious? I thought SayGen was a lefty, and the post is very over the top...


SayGen is to the right of xDaunt. Which is no mean feat ...


I'm not left or right, i'm straight up.
Pro freedom, personal accountability, economic freedom, liberty, determent military doctrine, flat tax, etc
Left is anti freedom. Right is anti freedom.
Left has no personal accountability:
Bigger goverment, means more corruption/less transparency
Right has little personal accountability supporting an upper class beyond the means of growth incentives, allowing billions of dollars to go overseas.
Left has no economic freedom.
Right is too weak against monopolies/fair competetion policies

etc
etc

both groups/parties suck

This election is nothing more than an example of what
Lesser of 2 evils is really all about.

Leave the flat tax and determent(?) military doctrine out and we might just be able to grab a beer together sometimes, although with less hyperbole.
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
October 20 2012 00:26 GMT
#18202
On October 20 2012 09:23 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.

Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.

Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama

Wait what, can you explain any of this post to me? And besides, at that point the gop was the liberal party, not its current iteration.


While Party lines shift, sometimes even in large swings- to say that Republicans were 'liberals' just goes to show that you do not know what the word liberal means.

Here ya go:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/liberal

We Live to Die
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 00:27:08
October 20 2012 00:26 GMT
#18203
On October 20 2012 09:20 SayGen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:07 Defacer wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:02 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 20 2012 08:55 farvacola wrote:
On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.

Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.

Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama

This post was "almost funny" until I realized you weren't joking. Though I urge you send a letter to the Romney Campaign suggesting they adopt the slogan, "Vote Romney, after all which party freed the slaves."

Is he really serious? I thought SayGen was a lefty, and the post is very over the top...


SayGen is to the right of xDaunt. Which is no mean feat ...


I'm not left or right, i'm straight up.
Pro freedom, personal accountability, economic freedom, liberty, determent military doctrine, flat tax, etc
Left is anti freedom. Right is anti freedom.
Left has no personal accountability:
Bigger goverment, means more corruption/less transparency
Right has little personal accountability supporting an upper class beyond the means of growth incentives, allowing billions of dollars to go overseas.
Left has no economic freedom.
Right is too weak against monopolies/fair competetion policies

etc
etc

both groups/parties suck

This election is nothing more than an example of what
Lesser of 2 evils is really all about.


I think I'd give more weight to a stripper lecturing me on particle physics than what you said here.
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
October 20 2012 00:28 GMT
#18204
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 00:36:03
October 20 2012 00:29 GMT
#18205
The reason "binders full of women" is funny, is because it's a completely meaningless answer. Like 90% of Romney's answers in that debate, it says nothing about his actual stances on policies. It's pure fluff.

What I don't get about this election is how Republicans stomach Romney's complete abandonment of the issues and rhetoric that he ran on in the primary? It'd be like Obama running in 2008 based on extending the Bush tax cuts, growing the military, and social conservatism.

Romney has done nothing in the two debates to advocate for conservatism. He's basically just gave a completely meaningless and congenial sales-pitch of himself, while lambasting the President for generally being a failure. He basically is selling himself as a progressive-alternative to Obama, just a Republican by name only who just wants to give the middle-class some tax breaks -- which is all, of course, a complete lie, if we're to believe the Romney who ran in the primaries is the real Romney.

It's very telling that Romney has chosen this strategy, and very telling that the Republicans are all too happy to ride along.

edit: But I guess that's why you guys elected him in the primary, as opposed to a more consistent conservative. In the last debate, a woman asked Romney to explain how different he is from George W. Bush.

Romney was all too happy to answer that question, and explain how different he is from George W. Bush. I imagine Santorum or Gingrich would've given a much different answer to such a loaded question.

Basically conservatives made a concerted choice in Romney to not run on conservatism in 2012, but to simply run as "anti-Obama", which has basically been their M.O. for the past four years anyways.
Big water
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
October 20 2012 00:30 GMT
#18206
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!


Might want to go to an African American studies class.

We Live to Die
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 20 2012 00:31 GMT
#18207
On October 20 2012 09:30 SayGen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!


Might want to go to an African American studies class.


Don't wish that evil on anybody. I still have flashbacks.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
October 20 2012 00:31 GMT
#18208
On October 20 2012 09:29 Leporello wrote:
The reason "binders full of women" is funny, is because it's a completely meaningless answer. Like 90% of Romney's answers in that debate, it says nothing about his actual stances on policies. It's pure fluff.

What I don't get about this election is how Republicans stomach Romney's complete abandonment of the issues and rhetoric that he ran on in the primary? It'd be like Obama running in 2008 based on extending the Bush tax cuts, growing the military, and social conservatism.

Romney has done nothing in the two debates to advocate for conservatism. He's basically just gave a completely meaningless and congenial sales-pitch of himself, while lambasting the President for generally being a failure. He basically is selling himself as a progressive-alternative to Obama, just a Republican by name only who just wants to give the middle-class some tax breaks -- which is all, of course, a complete lie, if we're to believe the Romney who ran in the primaries is the real Romney.

It's very telling that Romney has chosen this strategy, and very telling that the Republicans are all too happy to ride along.


It just proves the state of affairs in politics today. Both sides vigorously, emotionally defend their candidate, essentially regardless of what they do. I feel comfortable saying that Obama would never go to the extremes of Romney, I have to admit that I would probably still support him if he did.

Civil war II inc, I'm telling ya...
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 00:35:23
October 20 2012 00:33 GMT
#18209
On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.

Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.

Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama



SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!


Might want to go to an African American studies class.



These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude.

EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'....
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
October 20 2012 00:33 GMT
#18210
On October 20 2012 09:29 Leporello wrote:
The reason "binders full of women" is funny, is because it's a completely meaningless answer. Like 90% of Romney's answers in that debate, it says nothing about his actual stances on policies. It's pure fluff.

What I don't get about this election is how Republicans stomach Romney's complete abandonment of the issues and rhetoric that he ran on in the primary? It'd be like Obama running in 2008 based on extending the Bush tax cuts, growing the military, and social conservatism.

Romney has done nothing in the two debates to advocate for conservatism. He's basically just gave a completely meaningless and congenial sales-pitch of himself, while lambasting the President for generally being a failure. He basically is selling himself as a progressive-alternative to Obama, just a Republican by name only who just wants to give the middle-class some tax breaks -- which is all, of course, a complete lie, if we're to believe the Romney who ran in the primaries is the real Romney.

It's very telling that Romney has chosen this strategy, and very telling that the Republicans are all too happy to ride along.


People are more instrested in seeing a runner with their perfered insignia (D) (R) (I) than the actual runner.
Who cares what he says. right? Who cares about his record in Mass. right?


Romney is a joke, I don't think he will repeal Obamacare, too easy to steal money from Americans with it and pay back his rich camp. donors.
We Live to Die
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
October 20 2012 00:36 GMT
#18211
On October 20 2012 09:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:30 SayGen wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!


Might want to go to an African American studies class.


Don't wish that evil on anybody. I still have flashbacks.


I could be wrong but I think it's 2042 that African Americans will be the largest ethnic group in USA,
however it will be a short reign, 2069 project White-Hispanic will be the largest ethnic group.

Over 20 years with a black majoirty make it worth looking into things like Black Liberation Theology, Anti-Colonization, Black sufferage, etc.


We Live to Die
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 00:37:23
October 20 2012 00:37 GMT
#18212
On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.

Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.

Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama



Um. I just wanted to respond to this.

By the modern definition of such, Democrats and Republicans of the time of the civil war. Also, Lincoln was a Whig.
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mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
October 20 2012 00:38 GMT
#18213
On October 20 2012 09:37 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.

Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.

Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama



Um. I just wanted to respond to this.

By the modern definition of such, Democrats and Republicans of the time of the civil war. Also, Lincoln was a Whig.


I know. That's why its funny.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
October 20 2012 00:42 GMT
#18214
On October 20 2012 09:37 Praetorial wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.

Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.

Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama



Um. I just wanted to respond to this.

By the modern definition of such, Democrats and Republicans of the time of the civil war. Also, Lincoln was a Whig.


Lincoln was a republican.

Republicans are historically state's rights liberals. The only reason we call Democrats liberals today is because of social issues. Even on economic issues Republicans are far more liberal.
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
October 20 2012 00:43 GMT
#18215
On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.

Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.

Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama

Show nested quote +


SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!


Might want to go to an African American studies class.



These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude.

EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'....



No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel.
I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing.
Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes
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Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
October 20 2012 00:48 GMT
#18216
On October 20 2012 09:36 SayGen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:30 SayGen wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!


Might want to go to an African American studies class.


Don't wish that evil on anybody. I still have flashbacks.


I could be wrong but I think it's 2042 that African Americans will be the largest ethnic group in USA,
however it will be a short reign, 2069 project White-Hispanic will be the largest ethnic group.

Over 20 years with a black majoirty make it worth looking into things like Black Liberation Theology, Anti-Colonization, Black sufferage, etc.



Hysterical much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

3 out of every 4 people in the US are white, I don't think you have much to worry about.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
October 20 2012 00:48 GMT
#18217
On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:
It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing.


But it's pro-american to be taxed on income?

where do you get your definition of what is pro-american and what is anti-american?
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 20 2012 00:50 GMT
#18218
On October 20 2012 09:36 SayGen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:30 SayGen wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!


Might want to go to an African American studies class.


Don't wish that evil on anybody. I still have flashbacks.


I could be wrong but I think it's 2042 that African Americans will be the largest ethnic group in USA,
however it will be a short reign, 2069 project White-Hispanic will be the largest ethnic group.

Over 20 years with a black majoirty make it worth looking into things like Black Liberation Theology, Anti-Colonization, Black sufferage, etc.



Ummm, I thought pretty much all the data points to Hispanics being the largest group fairly soon? They have a majority in my state already.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
October 20 2012 00:51 GMT
#18219
On October 20 2012 09:48 Logo2010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:36 SayGen wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:30 SayGen wrote:
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!


Might want to go to an African American studies class.


Don't wish that evil on anybody. I still have flashbacks.


I could be wrong but I think it's 2042 that African Americans will be the largest ethnic group in USA,
however it will be a short reign, 2069 project White-Hispanic will be the largest ethnic group.

Over 20 years with a black majoirty make it worth looking into things like Black Liberation Theology, Anti-Colonization, Black sufferage, etc.



Hysterical much?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_United_States#Race_and_ethnicity

3 out of every 4 people in the US are white, I don't think you have much to worry about.


It's about 2050 when non-hispanic whites will not be a majority race. This isn't news.
RavenLoud
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1100 Posts
October 20 2012 00:54 GMT
#18220
On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.

Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.

Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama



SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!


Might want to go to an African American studies class.



These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude.

EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'....



No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel.
I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing.
Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes

I dislike Obamacare for other reasons, but I cannot stand people who put ideology above reality.

Food for thought: even Switzerland have a public healthcare system. IIRC they had heavy debates and a close vote, but years later, nobody would want to go back to the old days.

Even the country that inspired the Founding Fathers and continue to be referred to in every gun control debate can recognize that healthcare is better handled by the government.
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